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Old 05-18-2022, 05:41 PM   #1
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Delivery Contractors Work Stoppage

I heard from my dealer today that they were told by AS that the independent contractors who have been shipping airstreams have temporarily stopped work, and to expect significantly delayed delivery. Does anyone have any details on the stoppage, and when it started?
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Old 05-18-2022, 10:25 PM   #2
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Id be willing to bet it is due to two factors: 1) Diesel price and 2) Diesel shortage announcement that went out to shippers from Loves and Pilot about a severe Diesel shortage that was imminent and likely to delay shipments significantly.
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Old 05-19-2022, 07:28 AM   #3
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Id be willing to bet it is due to two factors: 1) Diesel price and 2) Diesel shortage announcement that went out to shippers from Loves and Pilot about a severe Diesel shortage that was imminent and likely to delay shipments significantly.
Would you have a link to the Love's and Pilot announcements? I've not seen anything.

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Would you have a link to the Love's and Pilot announcements? I've not seen anything.

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"Now the threat of a potential diesel shortage might become an added strain on drivers. Pilot Flying-J and Love’s said there are diesel supply issues, and the companies are monitoring the situation. Several trade publications say diesel supplies on the East coast are now at the lowest in almost 20 years."
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Old 05-19-2022, 07:37 AM   #5
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So close, I really hope this doesn’t cause major delays. It’s only a day and a half drive from where I live to Jackson Center … if I don’t stop.
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Old 05-19-2022, 08:32 AM   #6
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Good. Why put this on the shoulders of independent operators?
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:12 AM   #7
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The way this works is a fixed fee for delivery. The folks doing the delivery are indeed independent contractors. Any time fuel price spikes, they are likely to get squeezed. I'd also bet that there have been adjustments in the fee, just not enough adjustment / fast enough.

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Old 05-19-2022, 09:26 AM   #8
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It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Uncle Bob is right about the fixed fee and the "adjustments". Quick solution (as mentioned above), drive to JC and pick up the rig yourself. Certainly a discount should be provided if you have to do this yourself. Could rail be another option? Maybe, if you do not mind a little artwork on the outside of your rig, on arrival.
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Old 05-19-2022, 09:30 AM   #9
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Keep in mind that these reports above are referencing low inventories of diesel, about 15%-20% lower than normal. They reference "potential" diesel outages. It's a lot of hype. Yes it's expensive, but we aren't experiences outages.
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Keep in mind that these reports above are referencing low inventories of diesel, about 15%-20% lower than normal. They reference "potential" diesel outages. It's a lot of hype. Yes it's expensive, but we aren't experiences outages.
I agree, hype to take your mind off of and try to justify the expense. If you're thrilled to be able to get fuel you wont be as upset you're paying nearly twice as much as you were last year (at least while you are still at the gas station/truck stop).
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I'd also bet that there have been adjustments in the fee, just not enough adjustment / fast enough.
Yeah, the delivery fee went from $1650 to $1950 in October. I imagine there will be another increase coming. I wish I lived close enough to consider picking it up myself a realistic option, but with a toddler and infant at home, and living a 34 hour drive away puts that squarely in the pipe dream category. I feel for these contractors though.
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Old 05-19-2022, 11:19 AM   #12
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Well, if you pick up your Airstream, I would think you can pocket that deliver fee, right?
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Old 05-19-2022, 12:36 PM   #13
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Well, if you pick up your Airstream, I would think you can pocket that deliver fee, right?
Airstream doesn't allow for pickup because part of the delivery process relies on the dealers to clean/prep/fix the trailer before you get it. The Airstream factory currently doesn't have the ability to do all the pre-delivery tasks.
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Old 05-19-2022, 01:04 PM   #14
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Just because the delivery fee that they charge goes up does not mean that they actually pass the increase along to the delivery contractors.
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Keep in mind that these reports above are referencing low inventories of diesel, about 15%-20% lower than normal. They reference "potential" diesel outages. It's a lot of hype. Yes it's expensive, but we aren't experiences outages.
My local gas station in the Atlanta area was out of diesel yesterday. At $5.60/gallon I was only going to buy 2 tablespoons worth. No need to hoard.
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It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Uncle Bob is right about the fixed fee and the "adjustments". Quick solution (as mentioned above), drive to JC and pick up the rig yourself. Certainly a discount should be provided if you have to do this yourself. Could rail be another option? Maybe, if you do not mind a little artwork on the outside of your rig, on arrival.
Problem is the dealer you are buying the trailer from needs to do their prep before they normally would call you to pickup the trailer. Quite honestly, the good dealers do a lot of work on the trailer prior to you getting it. Airstream isn't known for always providing a good quality build on trailers rolling out the door. I honestly believe they don't want you taking a trailer that truly hasn't been cleaned and checked for workmanship and operational readiness. Nor does a dealer want you trying to do the work to fix problems and then screw things up. Who gets you hitched up properly at JC?, what if there is an exterior defect? Was it something you did in the delivery process? For Airstream it's a can of worms and they would have to do the dealer prep prior to that trailer rolling out of JC. I'm not sure if they have the staff to do that either. And the other end acceptance of the payment or financing. Are you willing to do that at the dealership without you seeing that trailer first? I know I wouldn't.

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The factory delivery fee is the same for a trailer going to Seattle, WA as to a dealer in Ohio to level the playing field for dealership costs before markup.
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I live just over an hour from Jackson Center and am buying from Colonial in NJ. They won't even let me pick it up and transport to Colonial. I asked...
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The factory delivery fee is the same for a trailer going to Seattle, WA as to a dealer in Ohio to level the playing field for dealership costs before markup.
Interesting, mixed feelings about that. I guess if it's a level playing field, why is it just not included in the cost of the trailer? Oh right, because research shows you can sell more products by hiding the fees, lol! I guess I get the advantage of that level playing field.

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I live just over an hour from Jackson Center and am buying from Colonial in NJ. They won't even let me pick it up and transport to Colonial. I asked...
Doh! Bummer! I can understand why based on what folks said above. We also live in a very litigious society right now. Still a bummer.
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Problem is the dealer you are buying the trailer from needs to do their prep before they normally would call you to pickup the trailer. Quite honestly, the good dealers do a lot of work on the trailer prior to you getting it. Airstream isn't known for always providing a good quality build on trailers rolling out the door. I honestly believe they don't want you taking a trailer that truly hasn't been cleaned and checked for workmanship and operational readiness. Nor does a dealer want you trying to do the work to fix problems and then screw things up. Who gets you hitched up properly at JC?, what if there is an exterior defect? Was it something you did in the delivery process? For Airstream it's a can of worms and they would have to do the dealer prep prior to that trailer rolling out of JC. I'm not sure if they have the staff to do that either. And the other end acceptance of the payment or financing. Are you willing to do that at the dealership without you seeing that trailer first? I know I wouldn't.

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On one, of my 2 factory tours I noted the final clean process that was being checked off. They do clean them at the factory. I have seen all the nice, new, clean, and shiny AS's lined up for delivery.

I have been to JC 2 times with my current rig and 2 times with my previous rig. They have the talent to hitch you up. If there is an exterior defect it gets rolled across the street and gets repaired.

As for financing, you can close on a house using Docusign and no one is in the same room together. I think this can be done for an RV.

The point of my post is that the one constant, in business, is change. Flexibility, forward thinking, adaptability, and the willingness to modify a business model are some of the hallmarks of very successful companies, including Airstream. 10 years ago would we talking about all electric RV's, using teledoc, making deposits with our phones, purchasing a car (on the internet) and having it delivered to your home?

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