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Old 03-16-2020, 04:26 PM   #1
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Does this look like a Sovereign

This airstream has been sitting around the corners for several years without moving and I have been thinking about asking the owner if he has considered selling it. Before I contact him I have been trying to research what year / model this might be. The best I have been able to come up with is 74 or 75 31' Sovereign center bath based on the curbside windows. Doesn't look to be 31' long but that seems to be the only length that had 2 front windows with a center bath.

I'm just starting to learn about different airstream models so if someone else could confirm my guess or help me determine what I'm actually looking at, it would be greatly appreciated

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Old 03-16-2020, 04:41 PM   #2
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Welcome to the forums. That looks like a 1975-1976 Sovereign, center bath, with disc brakes.
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Old 03-16-2020, 04:51 PM   #3
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Thanks Terry - to help me gain a little more knowledge

1. what do you see that makes it 75/76 instead of a 74?
2. Did all 75/76 Sovereigns come with disk brakes and if not, how did you determine it has disk brakes.

I can see the the front wing windows are cloudy so I'm thinking it's going to need some work.

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It is most likely a 1977! This is because that was the first year the battery boxes moved to over the tongue as can be seen in the provided photo. 1977 also has standard electric over hydraulic brakes with the actuator in a box on the tongue behind the propane bottles that can also be seen. The trailer may have been converted to electric brakes since 1977, or maybe not, but the box is still there.

And yes, it looks like a 31' Sovereign center bath from the window locations.
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Old 03-17-2020, 09:47 AM   #5
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This airstream has been sitting around the corners for several years without moving and I have been thinking about asking the owner if he has considered selling it. Before I contact him I have been trying to research what year / model this might be. The best I have been able to come up with is 74 or 75 31' Sovereign center bath based on the curbside windows. Doesn't look to be 31' long but that seems to be the only length that had 2 front windows with a center bath.

I'm just starting to learn about different airstream models so if someone else could confirm my guess or help me determine what I'm actually looking at, it would be greatly appreciated

Regard,
Kevin
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You're smart to do as much research as possible before talking to the owner. Get an idea of the cost of everything it might need - windows, axles, floor replacement, panels if damaged, appliances, etc. That way if your discussion turns to a negotiation you will be prepared to back up whatever counter offer you choose to make. The seller may already have a reasonable idea of what it's worth, or they may throw out a high asking price because they don't understand what the trailer needs to make it useable. Or they may not be interested in selling, but then you'll at least have that info as start for the next one you find.
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Old 03-17-2020, 11:00 AM   #6
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Joe - thanks for the education.

DavidsonOverlander - This is an older gentleman who probably doesn't realize how long it has been sitting. Might even have plans in his head to take it out again without realizing how much work it might need before it's in camping condition. I'll most likely stick a note in his mailbox and tell him to give me a call if he is interested in selling. This will give him some time to think it over.

In the meanwhile I will continue researching some of the common issues and repairs so I know what I might be stepping into.

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From my personal experience let me throw this monkey wrench in. Don't look at this Sovereign as an investment, unless your only intention is to flip it. Take a guess at what you think it might need in time and money and at least double it.Now restoration as a labor of love is another story. There are some good deals out there on restorations that people have started and then for what ever reason stopped. Also, there are a lot of Vintage Sovereigns out there. They are harder to sell. As far as vintage, the smaller the trailer the more in demand. I can guarantee you you will need new axles. The other big problem Sovereigns tend to have is rear end sag or separation.
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Thanks for the advice Lumatic. I'm not looking to flip it but would hope to at least get my money back (minus labor) if I were to decide to sell later. I understand doubling the estimated cost as I just finished a bathroom remodel and don't even want to add up the final cost.

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