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Old 08-02-2020, 06:29 AM   #521
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Hey Ian

Welting. Of course! Yes, I would love the link.

Progress with Faith is pretty slow right now due to the heat. About like yours I suspect; the low 90s with stifling humidity. But, little by little Iím gaining.

The bunks in your Avion are pretty cool. Are they of knockdown design?
Any progress on your Sovereign?
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Old 08-02-2020, 07:47 AM   #522
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Morning Bill,

Yeah, it’s definitely the dog days of summer around here.
I just stay in the shade and keep at it.

The bunks are installed in a way that they can be taken out fairly quickly without damage. There was a bank of drawers there I had to sacrifice but there is an absurd amount of storage in that trailer. When they come out in a few years I’ll put a desk in.

No progress on my sovereign in awhile, spent the last couple months fixing up a trailer for some folks who could afford to pay me to do so. That’s done and I got caught up in the interior facelift of the Avion before we leave for a two week camping trip to the mountains, off grid and away from anyone else.

Here is the link I’ve used recently: https://www.ebay.com/itm/322110971349
They have several sizes but I got cocky and went with the 1/4” stuff.

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Old 08-03-2020, 07:53 AM   #523
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David

Back when you installed your SeeLevel system, you mentioned that using the existing tank wiring was a mistake. You also mentioned wishing you had bought one with the pump switch feature.

Since I cannot get the OEM control center to work, which I had hoped to do, I am considering SeeLevel as a solution. It would be great if I could use the existing wiring because there is plenty of it. Donít know if I can get a dedicated DC circuit at this stage. And the pump switch on the old OEM control center is a three-way tied to a second pump switch in the bath.

Before I order, given the above, do you have words of wisdom?
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:53 AM   #524
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Ordered welting. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 08-03-2020, 07:52 PM   #525
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Hi Bill: I've used SeeLevel both in my old 66 Trade Wind and in the 75 Overlander. I think it is a very good product.

The SeeLevel stick on circuits are "daisy chained" together. Two wires only are connected (with the provided 4 wire plug) to the back of the read out. You also need a dedicated positive and negative from the battery to reduce noise. I did not pull out all the sender wires from the existing system, but I can't see how they would work with a SeeLevel. I can say that pulling the wires through the trailer wasn't all that difficult, although I belly pan was still down. I did use the existing pump switch in the control center as well as the stove exhaust fan vent lever with the fan switch.

So maybe you are at a point where a SeeLevel would work for you. You can read all about it on their website here:

https://www.garnetinstruments.com/

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Old 08-03-2020, 08:55 PM   #526
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Iím guessing that the original the original sensor wires (5 from each tank) are 12-14 gauge. What gauge wire did you use to daily chain each of the sensors together?

Did each sensor card have a two wire pigtail or did the have connectors?
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Old 08-03-2020, 11:17 PM   #527
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I installed a seelevel in our trailer, and I reused two of the tank level sender wires from the control center to the freshwater tank. From there I ran shielded CAN cable from the freshwater tank to the gray tank and black tank senders. It seems to work fine. The only reason I didn't reuse the wires to the black tank is I wanted to use them for an additional 3 way water pump switch from the seelevel panel in the future.
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Old 08-04-2020, 09:17 PM   #528
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Thanks COB. I called SeeLevel tech support and they instructed me to use two of the five wires going to each tank. That will be an easy swap out.

Getting the sensor on the water tank, is the only challenge I see in the process as conditions are tight there.
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Old 08-05-2020, 06:48 AM   #529
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Very good Bill and COB: Just goes to show you can't trust what you read on the internet.

I used 18ga solid copper wire starting at the black tank circuit, over to the grey tank, and down to the fresh tank. Then up to the 4 wire plug in adaptor provided by SeeLevel to plug into their readout. SeeLevel asked for a dedicated power wire from the battery and a dedicated ground wire from the battery going into their readout. I did this too being a good boy.

Actually I had cut and removed most of the original tank sensor wires as that "harness" was such a rat's nest of wires. I didn't think of repurposing them. I like wiring simple so I can understand it.

I did have a problem with my 66 Trade Wind with DC "noise" in the circuit causing the readout to be rather nuts. SeeLevel techs helped my diagnose the problem to the very old "Univolt" converter I kept in this trailer. I replaced the converter and my problems went away.

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Old 08-10-2020, 09:36 PM   #530
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Hey everyone

Working on the cabinet surround for the refrigerator which had to be built from scratch. The new refrigerator is larger than the original. Ran the new refrigerator on the electric setting and couldnít believe how much heat the unit generates.

Although the cabinetry from the old refrigerator did not have insulation, I am insulating this one.

I was hoping the the cabinet could tie into the new face frame. As you can see from the dry fit pics below, it fits great.

Pics coming soon on the finished product. All the pRts were painted today and will be installed tomorrow.
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Old 08-11-2020, 07:59 PM   #531
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Still having fun? Building the galley cabinets was a challenge for me. A fridge does exhaust heat, the same in our house kitchens. Air condoners are worse. Ironic, wanting cool heats the climate.

What type of wood are you using for your cabinets? It looks nice. We used red oak framing (not the lightest stuff around) and birch plywood for walls and doors.

Fridge cabinet photo gallery coming up.

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Hi Bill,
I have read almost all of your thread, and I have to say -- wow! You started almost exactly one year later than me, have done more extensive work, and are further along. Great job !!!

A quick question: Did you start with new wood for your cabinets? I am considering using the wood that came out of our coach (walls, cabinets, etc.) for the re-make of same, to keep with the Resto-Mod (some original, some modern finishes) idea that I am still harboring...

Whatever the answer, I am envious of your progress!


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Work continues on the cabinetry in the pantry. Refrigerator cabinet is finished and ties into face frame of upper cabinet. Beside it is the carcass for the pantry cabinet.
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Cali David

My strategy for the inside was to reuse what made sense, upgrade what didnít and blend the old and new together.

I reused some panels, but remade others that were rotted or damaged.

So far I think I have retained the feel of the vintage AS, but added enough new to give it an up to date feel.

I follow your thread regularly and applaud the work youíve done so far.
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Bill I was wondering aobut your flooring. What have you done with that? Is it just the plywood with a clear finish on it? What ever it is it looks great! Keep up the good work.
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Hey Mike.

Iím planning on using luxury vinyl. I elected not to put flooring down until the end. Hope that I donít regret that decision.
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Today I finish the pantry cabinet frame. The top hole is the rough opening for a flush mounted microwave. The next two holes are for very large full extension drawers. And the final hole at the bottom is storage.

Several years ago, I happened to buy a lot of Blum Tandem soft close drawer slides. But they were 21 1/2 inch slides, too long for use in most residential cabinet applications. But they are perfect for this application. Just one pair of these slides today are a couple of hundred dollars. Thatís what I paid for the entire lot. I have enough for the galley cabinet drawers, too.

I am waiting to make all the cabinet doors at the same time. Iíll make the drawers at the same time I make the drawers for the galley cabinet.

So the carcass for the galley cabinet is next.
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Gee, that is sure looking nice Bill. You should work for Airstream designers. Nice you have drawer slides at the ready. Nothing like buying things ahead of time in the hopes you will find a use for them.

Making drawers is difficult. I'll stick with the crummy Airstream plastic boxes. they kinda work like drawers. Build a plastic mold and you can make hundreds of them.

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Bill - the cabinets look amazing. I am getting caught up on your thread - any luck finding the instrument panel?

Here is what we have been doing - I am trying to figure out the key to posting photos right side up!

https://www.airforums.com/forums/f22...ml#post2399161
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If your using an iPhone to take pics, turn the iPhone sideways with the start button on the right. It should post your pics to the forum right side up.This only applies to the iPhone.
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