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06-01-2010, 09:24 PM
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Vintage Trailer Supply
Commercial Member
1956 22' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Montpelier
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 134
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Retrofit Gray Tank
We just developed a rotomolded vintage size gray tank that fits in existing chassis framing in 1950s and 1960s Airstreams. 50" x 21" x only 3-7/8"! It doesn't even drop below the belly pan.
It holds approximately 16 gallons.
Thanks to all those customers who begged us to do this project!
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06-02-2010, 03:50 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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is it now in stock and ready for sale? What is the lead time for having an extra fitting installed?
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06-02-2010, 06:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VintageRV
We just developed a rotomolded vintage size gray tank that fits in existing chassis framing in 1950s and 1960s Airstreams. 50" x 21" x only 3-7/8"! It doesn't even drop below the belly pan.
It holds approximately 16 gallons.
Thanks to all those customers who begged us to do this project!
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Can you make one for the early 70's? It could be deeper with the 5" frame, and a tad wider (53 x 21 x 4 7/8).
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06-02-2010, 11:56 AM
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Rivet Master
Elkhart
, Indiana
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 633
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I will jump on the early 70's list also...
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Have a great day!
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06-07-2010, 07:45 AM
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Vintage Trailer Supply
Commercial Member
1956 22' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Montpelier
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 134
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
is it now in stock and ready for sale? What is the lead time for having an extra fitting installed?
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Yes, they are in stock and we can spin weld in the fittings with no delay in shipping. We can ship a tank with custom fittings just a few days after the order is placed.
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06-07-2010, 07:49 AM
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Vintage Trailer Supply
Commercial Member
1956 22' Caravanner
Vintage Kin Owner
Montpelier
, Vermont
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 134
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minno
Can you make one for the early 70's? It could be deeper with the 5" frame, and a tad wider (53 x 21 x 4 7/8).
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Hey Minno and Mike,
I have considered doing a larger one for the early 1970s, but at this point I have to prove that the 50s/60s version was a cost-effective decisoin. As you can imagine, the tooling costs are not inexpensive for this kind of thing.
Thanks,
Steve
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06-07-2010, 11:24 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1961 22' Safari
Union
, Oregon
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 477
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Thank you!!!
You saw a need and filled it. I am going to have to think seriously about this being my next project.
Sam
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06-08-2010, 06:22 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Valley Grande
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 92
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So is there any kind of gray tank that can be installed on a 71 AS? I want to have one installed. We plan on taking the black one out and installing a composting toilet. So do you have any gray tank for me? We don't care if it has to be installed below the floor, but above the belly pan?
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06-08-2010, 07:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by holder310
So is there any kind of gray tank that can be installed on a 71 AS? I want to have one installed. We plan on taking the black one out and installing a composting toilet. So do you have any gray tank for me? We don't care if it has to be installed below the floor, but above the belly pan?
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I've been looking for quite awhile, and here are two web sites where I found a wide assortment of tanks:
http://www.incaplastics.com/
http://www.rvsurplus.net/catalog/display.php?category_id=47
If you want to keep the entire tank between the belly pan and the floor, you'll be more limited on the size you can install. Some places will make a custom tank for you, but custom involves a bunch more money.
The ones I'm strongly considering for Little Girl are in the 35 to 38 gal range, and at least part of the tank will extend below the frame. I plan on placing it in the frame directly behind the axels, and will extend the belly pan down the inch or inch-and-a-half to completely enclose the tank. Kinda like they did for the fresh water tank. Another thought I've had is to install two smaller tanks, and gang them together into one larger gray tank. Jury is still out on exactly what we’ll do.
Chris
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06-08-2010, 09:14 PM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Valley Grande
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 92
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thanks for the info Minno... you have given us some good ideas to knock around!
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06-09-2010, 03:36 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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when knocking around those tank ideas keep in mind that the size of a frame bay is 22+/- wide by 57 long. In that you will need to restrain the tank and also make it removable in case of a leak. There are lots of tanks out there, but very few that fit without altering the frame.
I want to give serious praise to VTS for making a tank that can fit without alteration.
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06-09-2010, 09:38 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1971 23' Safari
Valley Grande
, Alabama
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 92
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Frank, as usual, your advice is priceless. I join you in your praise of VTS and wait with baited breath until they get a tank for the 70s models. thanks!
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06-09-2010, 10:24 AM
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Maniacal Engineer
1971 25' Tradewind
Lopez Island
, Washington
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 1,244
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For those who really want a custom gray water tank, boat builders frequently construct them w/ epoxy, cloth and plywood. You can build any size or shape desired.
Here's a link...
This will be a bit heaver than a poly tank, but also a lot stronger.
- Bart
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06-09-2010, 10:26 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,989
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
I want to give serious praise to VTS for making a tank that can fit without alteration.
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Absolutely! I will second that, or third it in this case. This new tank is now a strong option that we're looking at - getting two of them and ganging them together to give us 32 gal gray capacity. Not having to modify the frame or the belly pan is a big plus, and two of these, even with the extra fittings, is not that much of a price difference than the other tanks we're looking at.
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06-09-2010, 11:21 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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... each tank will need to be vented. Keep that in mind, when you purchase them. It very easy to drop into the top of the tank within cabinets. The tub drain is also at the same level as the top the tank in this situation so a "P" trap on the tub is essential to keep fumes out. Once the tank is full the grey water will back up in the tub. An observation of mine is that grey water smells much worse than black water. Not sure why this is, but in just 24 hours it is rank as heck.
I want it noted that I do not receive any special treatment or pricing from VTS. I am just a VERY happy commercial customer and am expressing it here. Good service deserves praise.
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06-09-2010, 01:18 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1961 16' Bambi
Las Cruces
, New Mexico
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 134
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so does that mean the black water tank on a 61 bambi is vented? i knew there was a vent but thought it was only to the galley sink as it takes off from below the sink but below the trap-i think.. the vent pipe does go up in a wall next to the black tank. shower pan would be too low to tie into that vent...
maybe
i am also looking hard at adding that tank from "vts" this summer
thanks
don
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06-09-2010, 01:41 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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all tanks need to be vented. Especially the black. Your trailer is direct drain on the grey. All grey flows right out into the blue boy or ground. The drains for the sinks and shower are tied into the vent just above your black tank. The kitchen sink might also have a vent inside the wall to vent that end. Venting is critical. Think of a straw. When you stick it in a glass it fills. When you put your thumb over the end it will not allow the water to flow back out. A tank is the same way.
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06-09-2010, 03:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Huntsville
, Alabama
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,018
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The neanderthal hippie yahoo's been studying cave walls
Quote:
Originally Posted by 62overlander
all tanks need to be vented... Think of a straw...
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Frank's right. If nothing else, today's RV code backs up what he is saying.
Not to pick on Frank (even though he/I could get over it) I like my Coke bottle analogy better than his straw.
When you're in a hurry to fill a glass from a 2 litre bottle of pop you've undoubtedly encountered glug..glug..glug as the unvented bottle tries its best to empty into your cup quickly.
An unvented tank will do the same thing when you go to empty it.
Tom
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06-09-2010, 04:05 PM
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Patriotic
1973 23' Safari
North of Boston
, Massachusetts
Join Date: May 2002
Posts: 4,546
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomW
An unvented tank will do the same thing when you go to empty it.
Tom
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I could care less if it goes "glug glug"; the problem is that the suction this creates will draw the water out of a p-trap, which will thereafter allow dangerous (and just plain stinky) gases into the trailer. (same for your house).
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06-09-2010, 04:19 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
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Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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and it does smell real bad. Or is that badly? I stinks awful...
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