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Old 02-09-2016, 09:36 AM   #121
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Thanks Hittenstiehl & David.
To get more counter space we are not rebuilding the closet that was on the aft end of the kitchen. We counter space on both sides of sink and cooking range. Drawer space for kitchen use is very important to us so the single bowl sink with integral drain board and no oven maximizes that.

Custom size drawer boxes will be ordered since I don't have the equipment to make those properly. At this point the base is built and 5 cabinet partitions between sections are cut to fit the curved wall. After the are supported in place by framing, the front face will be framed with red oak plus birch drawer fronts.

OK, I'm just pretending that I know what I am doing...
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Old 02-09-2016, 09:44 AM   #122
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Old 02-09-2016, 07:40 PM   #123
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Sliding can lead to a LOT of work...

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I really like your direction. Love looking at the sketches. Doing nice work.

I was looking at it for my own purposes and wondering how I would use it during our own prep, cook and clean up.

I like counter space and might slid them (sink and stove) all the way left or right. Having said that I wonder how it would work to have the counter space free in the middle and stove and sink on each end.
Remember that there are openings in the skin for various things in that space you are talking about sliding stuff around in. Moving stuff can lead to considerable work in the form of replacing the skins and creating new openings to accommodate the moves. Sink is ok except if you want the window in front of it.
Stove, fridge, and other appliances have vents. If you want to save time, effort and money then try not to alter the kitchen much from its original plan. There is plenty to do restoring/refurbishing it without moving stuff around too drastically. Beds, cabinets, etc are fairly flexible if the move makes sense to your needs/wishes.
Just my 2 cents from having done one of these projects...

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Old 03-01-2016, 01:04 PM   #124
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Naturally when we built the base cabinets the design changed a bit. Now we have cabinets below sink and range. Seven drawers are framed plus a couple of recesses for small things above cabinets. Bottom of the cabinets is FRP. Drawer boxes and slides are on order. Slides are "push to open" so no pulls required. Cabinet doors will have concealed hinges and the hole required in the panel means 3/4" plywood (Birch) is needed for doors and drawer fronts.

Countertop is SS. Sink and faucet came from Ikea.

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Old 03-01-2016, 01:24 PM   #125
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JR that looks GREAT! Saved that photo as that is very much a look we would like to get close to.

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Old 03-03-2016, 08:27 PM   #126
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Very nice looking galley. Excellent work. That SS countertop will last forever. Was it custom made for you?

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Old 03-05-2016, 08:20 AM   #127
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Hittenstiehl& David, Thanks for the compliments!
I paid $460 for the 22 ga SS top and pan for the black water tank to a guy and his son with a custom sheet metal shop. Another advantage of this material is that it is lightweight.
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Old 03-05-2016, 08:36 PM   #128
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I think of stainless being more expensive than aluminum. But I have never actually looked it up. I paid about $450 for the pan that covers both my black and gray water tanks. It is so nice to have a local shop that does good fab work at reasonable prices. I need to find a new shop in my new town.

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Old 03-29-2016, 12:31 PM   #129
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Here's an update on our progress. Kitchenette cabinets done. Drawers have the push in to open slides so no pulls needed. They should stay closed during travel. We might have to add catches to the cabinet doors.

Jane has made curtains that look great!

Just 16 days until our first trip! Every day I think of one more thing that needs to happen before then. We will use air mattresses and have portable dining furniture this time.

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Old 03-29-2016, 12:34 PM   #130
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Looking great keep up the nice work.

A mattress, futon, or cot all make great temporary beds and a patio table and stacking/folding chairs a nice dinette.
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Old 03-30-2016, 07:12 PM   #131
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16 days to the maiden voyage. How about that! Your trailer is coming along very well. Take some photos while on the road.

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Old 04-10-2016, 04:28 PM   #132
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Thanks guys,
With 5 days before the maiden voyage, Jane and I took a drive into town and back, 11 miles, to see if we had any additional glitches.

We ended up with E rated Maxxis ST 225/75R15 10 ply tires because available 8 ply were made in 2014. A Blue Ox Sway Pro is in place with 550# spring bars. Tongue weight before being fully loaded with gear was 410# compared to the original 398# unloaded. I'll add more weight to the front when the bed / couch is fabricated and water tank a bit more full.

Brakes worked OK and I got in some much needed practice backing up. Trailer seemed to ride smoothly on our rough gravel road.
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Old 04-10-2016, 07:40 PM   #133
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Isn't it great to take the "project" around the block for the first time? I'm glad nothing fell off. You've got a ton of hours in your 67 and more to go. It will be fun to travel in it. I'm sure it will draw lots of attention at parks and rallies. I know I would take a picture and say hello if you were in front of it.

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Old 04-18-2016, 03:27 PM   #134
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We survived our first Air Forum's Rally. The towing for the 1.5 hour drive, including some hairpin mountain turns, went smoothly. There were at least 25 Airstream or related trailers or motor homes and twice that many really great folks. We hope to do this again with the Midwest group in the fall, next time with a real bed!
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Old 04-18-2016, 03:32 PM   #135
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The photo of us was not attached because the system said I was not logged in. That was incorrect but I'll try again.
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Very nice looking Safari, and very nice to see you folks in the photo. You folks have put a lot of time and effort into your renovation. Remember what it looked like when you brought it home for the first time? Look at the photos toward the beginning of you very interesting thread.

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bed or bust!

It is frustrating when the system administrator deletes a message saying I was not logged in when I most certainly was. Of course I must have done something wrong to cause it.

My topic today is about bed / lounge design using SketchUp. I started actually building it 3 years ago when I thought that was first priority. Now that everything else has been replaced, Jane tells me it's time to get after it. The bed will be 60" wide (queen size) x about 6' 6" long. Sometimes I use SketchUp to get detail and dimension down to the gnat's butt. In this case I just wanted to verify general ideas and then build it to fit.

Cushions can be moved away to study framing. Now I have a water tank and pump in this area so tweaks were necessary. The curved element is fairly complex so I'm doing that first and assembling it in place. The rectangular portion can be built in the shop. It will use 4 - 24" full extension slides with each pair rated for 220 lbs. Overkill for sure! I'm still thinking about how the panels on top of the frame will work. The movable part will have an attached panel and the fixed part, removable. The latter could be opened to access storage beneath and set on top of the other when retracted. Maybe using 1/4" panels will make the height differences not noticeable under the cushions.

When retracted it is also necessary to have a home for the surplus cushions, obviously useful for backrests.

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bed progress

The curved section is framed and top panel cut. The section over the water pump is removable. A view slot is cut so water level in the tank can be checked.
I hope to set 1 x 4 oak around the interior perimeter but to verify that would work the curved piece must be fabricated. I got 3 oak boards 1/4" x 3.5" x 48" and soaked them in water for a week. Yesterday I bent them on a mandrel made from scrap plywood using my JawHorse. The plan is to let these dry, take them apart for sanding and then add glue before returning them to the mandrel. After curing, edges would have to be made smooth.
Will this work?
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bed be done!

Attached shows our bed in the 60" wide extension and retracted to form an "L" shaped sofa. We've contacted our upholstery friends to put the cushions on their schedule.
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Good to hear from our nw Arkansas friends. Your Safari is coming right along. You have a nice design for the "front room" furniture that will provide comfortable sleeping.

I wonder if you utilized any floor supports for the bed when it is in the out position? I would think a couple of legs to hold the outside of the bed up would be necessary. I can't tell from the photos.

We spent quite a bit of time researching the best foam for our cushions. We ordered the stuff from the Foam Factory on line and had good results. They roll it up tight so shipping wasn't too bad. We specified the foam density at 2.8 pounds, and the firmness at 36 Indentation Load Deflection. There are all kinds of foam out there, but selecting one that will comfortably support us while sitting and sleeping is more of a challenge. We found this spec worked well for us.

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