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Old 02-06-2008, 10:21 AM   #61
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circle patches

Carlos,
I don't think I saw any on this trailer, but on your last one you had made some circular patches on the skin to cover holes. The circles look pretty true. What did you use to cut them so perfect? Thanks.
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Old 02-06-2008, 11:55 PM   #62
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patches

I use a compass to draw the circle, then cut it with hand-snips and then use either a sander or a file to get it round enough to look round. When I draw that circle with the compass I draw another about 1/4" smaller that I will later use to drill the holes for the rivets. I do those on a drill press and then hold it in place over the area to be patched by hand until I can cleco the first couple holes.
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Old 02-07-2008, 08:47 AM   #63
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I put the floor back on and used elevator bolts to secure it. A trick for doing elevator bolts by yourself is to use a screwdriver to pry down on the bolt while you are tightening below the trailer. Without this trick the bolt will sometimes spin.
Carlos, what an incredible thread and project! Thanks. If I hadn't found a person who wanted to refurb my Ambassador, I was going to shorten it to an 18' Zeppelinium, retaining the mid-bath. Love it!

Just a note about the elevator bolts. When I was helping 2333 yesterday on his Tradewind I noticed he used some "unusual to me" elevator bolts. They have two small spikes bent down from the head so that they grip the floor and won't turn when you're underneath putting on the nuts. I think he got them at Fastenal. I should have taken some photos--he's got his his floor installed and shell back on.

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Old 02-07-2008, 10:23 AM   #64
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elevator bolts

Hmm. That would be really good. It's a trick to do alone without something like that!
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Old 02-10-2008, 09:34 AM   #65
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Fanged Elevator Bolts

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I got them from...
McMaster-Carr

Just search for elevator bolts and they have a few options, one of them being "fanged". I would pop a few of them thru the floor and "set" them with a hammer, then crawl underneath and tighten them down. Worked great. Only a few out of the 120 gave me any problems.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:36 PM   #66
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Burlington

I towed the little airstream from Utica to Burlington with some temporary lights. It looked like it was floating behind me, unattached. Now to work again...
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:38 PM   #67
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Patching

More patches to cover dings and holes, there are about 20 now. It lends the pod a beat-up airplane quality. The patch made of four parts is to cover a dent in one of the rear curved pieces... The four parts allowed me to make something like a compound curve. And, it looks like a tiny wing, the kind that ladybugs have under the shell.

The front rain gutter was damaged and needed to be replaced too.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:44 PM   #68
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Wheel trim

The j-cap went on the wheel wells, I snip the trim to make it bendable and use a clamp and pliers to get the curve right, then some bending with my knee. Then the trim was riveted in place.
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Old 03-27-2008, 10:54 PM   #69
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Rear door

I put some thicker channel around the rear door opening - I looked across the parallel verticals to get it pretty square. It didn't line up initially, so I took out some rivets on the rear cone to push things into place.

The door opening needs to be planar in order to get a water-tight seal (I think) but airstream took the corners of the rear and front windows right up to the point where the curve started. I used some 1/8" scrap aluminum from a local steel yard to make shims.

Then I attached a rain guard just above the opening. Again, the curve that starts right at the top corner of the door made things tricky, but I just bent the drip cap around 'til it more or less conformed to the trailer.

It's all cleco-ed into place right now, rivets tomorrow.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:04 PM   #70
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WOW! as always Carlos. A soothing sight at this time of night.
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Old 03-27-2008, 11:07 PM   #71
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I love the four-piece patch, are you going to do a matching one on each side of the window? It looks very cool!
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Old 03-30-2008, 09:19 AM   #72
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I love the four-piece patch, are you going to do a matching one on each side of the window? It looks very cool!
I really should do that, but all the patches to this point have been "necessary" and I'm not sure I want to go down the path of designing... It is already taking quite a time to make this thing...
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Old 03-30-2008, 10:28 AM   #73
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Amazing as usual.

When's Carlos going to open up his own restoration company, hire a crew, and treat the rest of us to some amazing design work????

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Old 03-30-2008, 11:23 AM   #74
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Carlos, love your lady bug! I've got a ding on my Safari that I wasn't able to get more than 90% out. I'm going to ask if I may use your lady bug design, maybe with a little leading edge sweep, a la jet bug? Very cool, man.

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Old 03-30-2008, 01:49 PM   #75
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Carlos, words fail me, again... I want Rich to do a feature on you in Airstream Life but since magazines, like all commercial endeavors, rely on their audience to remain viable I have a feeling that your amazing work may be too far out for the average AS Life reader. But maybe a number of readers here may agree with me and revive my lobbying effort! It reminds me of that part in the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band's "Will The Circle Be Unbroken" album where John McKuen is asking fiddle visionary Vassar Clements about Nashville's reception of his music and Vassar replies that they didn't care much for it because "it was too far out" and the acolytes all break up laughing in agreement because yes, it was! Totally far out and ahead of its time, the earlier rejection being vindicated by a new younger group of freaky-fans who could see the artistry and vision.

Whatever level of notoriety you achieve out in the world, rest assured that among the aluminati and knuckle-busters you remain nothing less than a visionary craftsman of the highest order. Your photo pieces are pretty cool too...
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:34 PM   #76
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I really should do that, but all the patches to this point have been "necessary" and I'm not sure I want to go down the path of designing... It is already taking quite a time to make this thing...
These patches bring to mind folded down wings of Pegasus or maybe just an Armadillo. Interesting for sure.
If in your process you could snap a few riveting in the works photos, I would really appreciate it. That may take more than four arms.....maybe when the UPS guy delivers the next shipment of rivets?

Have you heard of this event in the works?
Airstream Life Vintage Trailer Jam 2008 They have not scheduled movie time as of yet.

In your general neighborhood? NICE WORK!
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Old 03-30-2008, 08:30 PM   #77
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Carlos, love your lady bug! I've got a ding on my Safari that I wasn't able to get more than 90% out. I'm going to ask if I may use your lady bug design, maybe with a little leading edge sweep, a la jet bug? Very cool, man.

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my pieces were each 6" (the first was 6, the rest were 7 so I could overlap by an inch) I would cut that down by an inch or two and make a few more pieces. I was able to get the bend to work, but just barely and the compound curve is almost too much for that width I used. A bit thinner stripes and I think you could make the patch hug the curve. You might need to experiment a bit. It was tricky as I couldn't really see if it was going to work until I drilled all the holes for the clecos. I figured I would just rivet some kind of pattern in there if it couldn't work, but that wouldn't have done the dent any favors.

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Old 04-03-2008, 08:24 PM   #78
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floor

I am trying out a pine floor, 4 inch wide boards, 60$ for the whole thing. I added some stock to the c-channel on the floor so that I could still attach the walls down there. The wall-boards will slip down between the floor and channel. If there are any wall/floor joints visible when the trailer is done, I will make a trim strip to cover the space.

There is a trim strip of aluminum that covers the ends of the boards and overlaps the outside a bit. The bottom edge of the door will cover this board.
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Old 04-03-2008, 08:32 PM   #79
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door

One side of the door is secured with a two-point handle and rods system.

The hinges are from austin hardware, I reinforced the skin to handle the extra stress. The door is more scrap aluminum with some z bends of heavier metal rivetted to the back.

I added some bits of thicker aluminum around the points where the rod passes through the door and into the frame.

The top half of the door will be a window.
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This is just fabulous work Carlos, once again. I have no idea what you'll do next, but there's no doubt you'll push the envelope even further.

Are you planning on putting a bathroom/shower in this one? I know you decided against the pop-up stow-away shower on your last one, so is there a chance it will make its appearance now?

Keep up the great work, we'll all be watching with tremendous interest.

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