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Old 07-03-2011, 05:00 PM   #161
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Amazing... great progress. Will it be ready by labor day?

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Old 07-03-2011, 05:48 PM   #162
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Amazing... great progress. Will it be ready by labor day?

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Didn't specify a year?

Haha thanks... My sister wanted to know if she could hang a hammock in it and move her potting table under it. I said no.
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Old 07-04-2011, 01:20 PM   #163
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Well if I said 2011 nobody would doubt it..
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Old 07-04-2011, 02:34 PM   #164
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Well if I said 2011 nobody would doubt it..
Thanks, I work really fast but without adult supervision I keep redesigning and adding gizmos to the point I never get done. There must be a medication for that
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Old 07-04-2011, 02:44 PM   #165
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My cast "international" badges and the cast trim beside them are structurally corroded and beyond repair.

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Removed the two horizontal trim strips that frame the badge and have decided all of it is being deleted in favor of a cleaner look like the older AS
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Old 07-04-2011, 04:27 PM   #166
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Old 07-05-2011, 09:51 PM   #167
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:47 AM   #168
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Well iv been in a steel holding pattern but good news it will arrive Thursday!

My local( 40mi) steel supplier is delivering for free and they are cutting all pieces to length based on my cut list. At $2 a cut that's a he'll of a deal.
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I figured based on material that my factory frame weighs 528lb - rust + rat poop

A C5 @6.7lb frame should weigh 1155lb

Mine will be close to that but my frame rails are taller and some reinforcement around the battery compartments
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Old 07-14-2011, 12:56 PM   #170
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Steel just arrived!
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:00 PM   #171
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Dark, What are you using for cross-members and outriggers. I was researching that and found that a metal fabricator could bend up some 11 gauge plate for around half the cost of the factory crossmember replacements.

I am not sure if I saw a post on the weight differences of C Channel steel, but the web site below, says that 1/8 plate is 5.112/sq. ft. A linear ft of plate is about .7 sq ft, so to cut to the chase the difference per foot of plate/stock is about 3# foot....u may want to validate as my second grade math is being tested to its limits.

How much does a 1/8 steel plate weight per sq.ft.? - Yahoo! Answers
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:33 PM   #172
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Old 07-15-2011, 02:42 PM   #173
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My cross members are two 2"x 3" 3/16 L sections. One above the other forming a C with a gap between them for wiring etc... Creates a boxed ladder structure. Outriggers are a single 2" x 3" 3/16 L this gives me a 2" face for mounting the decking

My frame is going to be a little overkill to take the weight of additional batteries.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:01 PM   #174
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Can you expand on the weld process? Will you be posting each step...hint hint. Are you going to use stick? I was going to marry the original C with stock 3/16 C channel on mine. I am not sure if me and a stick welder is the ticket..maybe something more potent???...definitely not my little 115v flux core. I will probably farm out the welding, I am not very comfortable assembling a 7K pound rolling liability.
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Old 07-15-2011, 03:36 PM   #175
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Stick is good but it is difficult to tack members together before yo go in and do all the final welds. Mig is better for this type of work I use a 180 C Lincoln with intershield wire as I am working outside
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If you decide to weld these really help. Called " strong hands " each side has a magnet and it can be turned on and off
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Old 07-16-2011, 07:43 PM   #178
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Ok before you freak out.... its a special use frame...

Today was my first day of tacking up the new frame.. I will go back and seam weld everything once I know everything is in the correct place.

Before everyone freaks out this is a special use frame designed to support more weight than your average AS. The additional weight will be from a large Solar / Battery addition.

Tomorrow I will be tacking the outriggers. Today was just the boxed ladder frame.

The main frame rails are 2" x 10" Rec. Box
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No freaking out here.. That box frame is overkill and a nice addition to the airstream. Have you seen this setup used before or did you just dream it up?

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Old 07-16-2011, 10:35 PM   #180
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Looks BEEFY! Interesting. Can't wait to see it completed!
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