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07-17-2011, 09:58 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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Without jacking a corner everything sits perfectly level - as built
I was jacking up a corner as a test.
I did not want the frame to be unable to twist ( super rigid )
For example.. If I had not used two 'L' s as cross members... say I used a 10" ibeam or 10" box section as cross members, the frame would have been much more rigid - maybe too rigid..
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07-17-2011, 10:02 PM
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#202
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4 Rivet Member 
1974 31' Sovereign
Columbus
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2010
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Ahh! I get it now, thanks!
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07-17-2011, 10:11 PM
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#203
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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There is another little trick.. the outriggers ( 3" tall ) are welded to the side of a 10" tall tube. This may look super rigid but it is not ( by design )
The outrigger if loaded deflects ( deforms ) the side of the tube because where it is imparting the most forces is part of the way down the side of the tube where it can most easily be compressed. If you stand on my outriggers they feel springy
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07-19-2011, 01:16 PM
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#204
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4 Rivet Member 
1974 31' Sovereign
Columbus
, Ohio
Join Date: May 2010
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How will you put together the axle supports? On my frame there is a 1/4 plate with holes welded to the outside of the frame, then a Z channel bolted through the pate and the C channel. The axles are mounted to all of that. The bolt is fairly short, and does not go through a hollow cavity, such as a rectangular tube. Compressing the tube would be my major concern.
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07-19-2011, 04:47 PM
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#205
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bauxter
How will you put together the axle supports? On my frame there is a 1/4 plate with holes welded to the outside of the frame, then a Z channel bolted through the pate and the C channel. The axles are mounted to all of that. The bolt is fairly short, and does not go through a hollow cavity, such as a rectangular tube. Compressing the tube would be my major concern.
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On page ten of this thread look at the drawing with "side mount hanger" it gets welded to the bottom of 2x10 tube and from there the new axle bots to it.
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07-19-2011, 04:50 PM
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#206
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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O' old axle how I despise thee...
Took the bolts out and it would not come down. Had to beat it down with a sledge. Think the old frame was flexing on it and wedging it in.
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07-19-2011, 09:14 PM
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#207
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
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Well it officially sucks to put old rot axles on a new frame. The plan is to finish the AS then weigh it, then order new axles
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07-19-2011, 09:22 PM
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#208
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
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Yeah it kinda sucks, but it is just a few extra hours of work. Just wondering what your plan is for attaching the belly pan to your outriggers. I like your maverick style of engineering and fabrication. Since you have an extra 2" of height for the axles, are you going with 0 degree starting angle?
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07-19-2011, 09:32 PM
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#209
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moderator
Commercial Member

2012 25' FB Flying Cloud
Currently Looking...
Wilton
, California
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Thats a good question.. What will the wheel look like in the well visually? 20" wheels lol
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07-19-2011, 09:44 PM
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#210
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Thanks!
The outriggers are not complete, there is a water jetted piece that attaches to the vertical of each outrigger to form the belly wrap radius.
The belly pan is still in the design stage as there will be an aluminum battery box before and after the axles on each side. So 4' before and after the axles will be compartment that opens from the outside. The rest will be belly wrap and banana wrap
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07-19-2011, 09:47 PM
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#211
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Airslide
Thats a good question.. What will the wheel look like in the well visually? 20" wheels lol
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Super Swampers...
No actually the wheel well arch is going to be lowered to look more - normal - what ever that is..
I have some 66" x 12" aluminum plate fender wells in the works
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07-19-2011, 09:52 PM
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#212
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Top
Since you have an extra 2" of height for the axles, are you going with 0 degree starting angle?
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Well Im not sure I want to do that as I would end up 'too low 2 tow"..
My plan was to keep the stock ground clearance and just relocate the wheel well / skin to match.
Its actually nice because the wheel well inside the trailer has been reduced by 5" in height
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07-19-2011, 09:59 PM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
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Ah I see. Yes that would be a little too low. Interesting. So two battery compartments 'eh. 100 gallons of fresh water. I think you may need two 6,500lb axles!
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07-19-2011, 11:56 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Top
Ah I see. Yes that would be a little too low. Interesting. So two battery compartments 'eh. 100 gallons of fresh water. I think you may need two 6,500lb axles!
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Hey just because you can hold 100g does not mean you have to carry 100g  Maybe 5200lb
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07-20-2011, 06:00 PM
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#215
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
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Twist test on factory wet noodle...err I mean frame... Lol...
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07-20-2011, 10:30 PM
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#216
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Rivet Master 
Currently Looking...
Florissant
, USA
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 5,083
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Wow...you are ZOOMING along on this project.
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07-21-2011, 03:56 PM
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#217
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by soldiermedic
Wow...you are ZOOMING along on this project.
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Well I don't have a girlfriend at the moment so I have some spare , time , energy , and money.... Hope that does not Change before I get a lot more done... But there was this hot girl at subway today... But I digress..
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07-21-2011, 04:42 PM
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#218
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Today was stormy so I decided to keep my wing grounded...
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07-27-2011, 07:29 PM
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#219
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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I was curious about building a custom sofa....
Ok well the google search started with " build a sofa "
That lead me to " schneider trailer "
That lead me to " Stefanie Schneider - Daisy In Front Of Trailer "
Dam you gooogle....
What was I curious about again???
http://www.instantdreams.net/main - artist Stefanie Schneider
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07-27-2011, 08:39 PM
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#220
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
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Something about being on the sofa with Stephanie? I don't know. Thanks for the pic.
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