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Old 09-03-2010, 06:15 PM   #121
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Hey MC looking forward to seeing your progress. Lucky dog you get to spend the weekend working on your a/s. I had more setbacks. My friend arrived with the frame parts all 1 " to short. His co-worker can't measure, and my welder friend took off for the weekend. So no work will be done. I wish I was as far ahead as you. Miles to go and a short time to get there. WC.
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Old 09-03-2010, 06:18 PM   #122
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I have a metal stretcher I'll sell to you for 5 mil CAD... Kinda like a board stretcher (something I wish I had a few times over the years after cutting one too short). Goes along with a bridge I can sell ya..

Sorry to hear about your setbacks. Kinda sucks...

I discoverd a setback this afternoon, but it's pretty minor compared to yours. One of our vista view windows leak. We had over 2 1/2" of rain this week, and the bottom of the window channel had about 1/4" of water in it. So, not bad, but still, it shouldn't leak at all. I'll reseal it better this weekend.

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Old 09-03-2010, 07:08 PM   #123
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Metal stretcher excellent idea. I have another problem. I been using my reversible driil in reverse for half an hour now and the hole still won't fill in. Any other $5 mil tools for that.
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Old 09-03-2010, 08:22 PM   #124
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I think you need to unsharpen your bit a tad more....

Kay says its scary to find someone with the same warped sense of humor.
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Old 09-04-2010, 08:20 AM   #125
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Hey Minno,

I notice that your inner wheel wells go below the floor. On my 67 the metal outer wells went under the floor and the inners attached to the floor.
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:32 AM   #126
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What you see in the pictures are the outer wheel wells(as in the ones closesd to the wheels on the underside outside of the trailer) - they are black plastic on ours and attached as they were originally - under the floor. We haven't put the inners on yet - they are supposed to attach to the inner skins and on top of the floor. We'll get them on once we get the inner skins on both sides.
However hubby and I are having a debate: are the inner wheel wells on the inside or outside of the trailer as you see it? I consider the inside wheel wells the ones you see INSIDE the trailer once it's put back together. Chris says those are the outers
(Which came first - the chicken or the egg).
Who is right? I promise no shots will be fired ...

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Old 09-04-2010, 10:34 AM   #127
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And since I do most of the posting, I get to call them what I want!

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until she corrects me that is...
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Old 09-04-2010, 10:45 AM   #128
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I surely do not know which is correct but the plastic ones that you see inside the trailer once it is put back together I have and would call the inners.
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Old 09-04-2010, 07:01 PM   #129
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Gorgeous day - mid 60's, sunny, perfect camping day... Or in our case, perfect day to work in Little Girl. Made good progress, and got the icky part done (insulating).

Started off by installing the vent cover over the galley area vent pipe. Which I forgot to get pictures of. It needs to be cleaned up anyway, so Ill try and remember to take some after I clean it. I had thought getting the rubber gasket over the vent pipe was going to be hard, but it slipped on really easy. A bit of vulkum, add the screen, and 8 screws later it was done.

We tried to install the starboard (curb side) upper curved wall section by ourselves. After a couple of failed attempts, we put that on hold until we could get some help. So we worked on insulating.

Then our son-in-laws brother Steve came over, and I grabbed Mike (son-in-law) and Steve, and the 3 of us got the upper wall in place while Kay was making a store run. Clecos are great! So is having 2 tall young men around! Like the lower panels, most of the rivet holes lined up, but I did end up drilling new ones here and there.

Heres where were at right now. Curb side walls are in, and street side is insulated. Well install those walls tomorrow.

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While working on the insulating, I also re-installed the vista view shade holders. I was surprised at how few rivets were initially used to hold them in place, and how little insulation was behind the plastic. I used 4 pop rivets across the middle, and 4 Olympic rivets across the top and bottom. Since they had all cracked where the original rivets were, I dimply drilled new holes for the new rivets. I also beefed up the insulation all around them.

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Old 09-04-2010, 07:09 PM   #130
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I surely do not know which is correct but the plastic ones that you see inside the trailer once it is put back together I have and would call the inners.
I look at them like a car fender. The inner fender is the one closest to the wheel, and it's inside the outer fender. That's why I call the black ones we've installed already the inner wheel wells. Diversity is great though! You should hear Kay and I discuss port & starboard vs. curb side & street side.
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Old 09-06-2010, 06:12 PM   #131
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Busy couple of days. Yesterday Kay and I installed the lower and middle skins on the port (street) side. Time consuming since we needed to cut new holes for the new outlet boxes, new wiring, and new electrical and water fittings we mounted on the outside. For the most part, my measurements were accurate, but somehow I got off on the water tank fill. That hole is a tad larger then intended, and a tad ugly right now. But Ill clean it up later, and itll be inside a cabinet anyway

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The first picture is how far we got yesterday. The next two show the upper curved wall skin on. Mike (son-in-law) helped us install that this afternoon. All but two holes lined up on that entire panel, which was great!

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This picture shows where the converter will be installed. Directly aft of the fridge on the port (street) side. Still looks like a mess, but it's an organized mess now. Looks a lot better than before the inner skin was installed. The yellow wire is the extra 12/2 I ran to run the a/c (I disconnected it to install the skins).

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Another thing I did today was install screws to hold the inner wheel wells to the plywood floor from underneath. When I took her apart last year, I noticed that the wheel wells had sagged in the middle, leaving a gap between the plywood and the plastic. The metal strips had rusted through in a few places as well. With the holes and the gaps, water from the tires was able to get directly to the underside of the plywood not good. These screws, and eventually vulkum to seal the seam and rivets, should go a long way to keep that from happening again.

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Finally, I removed the old umbilical connector (cracked, and corroded beyond repair), and installed a new umbilical cord. The watertight connector I bought was about too small for the original opening, so I made a patch and drilled a new hole the correct size. I opted to go with a permanent umbilical instead of a removable one because were going to build a battery box on the a-frame, which will be directly in front of the old connector, making it hard or impossible to use. The future battery box will cover where the umbilical enters the trailer.

Oh I also resealed the inside of the leaking vista view. Actually did that first thing this morning. Were supposed to get storms tonight, so Ill check it in the morning.

We have now accomplished what we set as our goal for this summer: get the inner skins back on.

The front lower skin is waiting until the umbilical wiring is done, and the front headliner needs to be fabricated yet. The center ceiling skin is going to wait awhile for wiring, etc. too. Otherwise, everything we get done after now is gravy! Which is good, since we wont be able to work on her for the next couple of weekends due to family obligations. This being Minnesota, its hard to tell how long this fall we will have to continue working.

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Old 09-06-2010, 06:55 PM   #132
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Congrats on meeting your goals for the summer. I've been following your thread from the start and you have done nice work at a good pace. Looks like you will probably get Little Girl out camping in next year.
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Old 09-06-2010, 07:45 PM   #133
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Congrats on meeting your goals for the summer. I've been following your thread from the start and you have done nice work at a good pace. Looks like you will probably get Little Girl out camping in next year.
Thanks Norm & Mary! But me thinks you be a tad overly optimistic about us camping in her next year.
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Old 09-06-2010, 08:01 PM   #134
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I am so amazingly impressed with all your work. (Secretly I always hope for an update on the Little Girl Refurb when I check for new posts!)

Can't wait to hear about her hitting the road. Thanks for sharing all the details with us!
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Old 09-06-2010, 10:08 PM   #135
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Wow! You just made our night!!! and day, and night, and...
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Old 09-07-2010, 05:49 PM   #136
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Quick update - the leaking vista view that I resealed yesterday did not leak last night, even with 3/4" of rain over several hours.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:25 PM   #137
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Hi, can you give a little more info on the "Watertight Connector" you mention and photographed in post 131 (last 2 photos)? Is it an RV item or a Home Depot / Lowes type of an item?
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Old 09-08-2010, 07:57 PM   #138
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Hi, can you give a little more info on the "Watertight Connector" you mention and photographed in post 131 (last 2 photos)? Is it an RV item or a Home Depot / Lowes type of an item?
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Hi Mark,

It's a Home Depot item. It's a watertight service entrance connector. The 1 1/2" size is just right for the umbilical cord and two future wires Ill run through it for the battery box (+12v and ground/neutral). The opening through the rubber gasket is oblong, so Ill add the two additional wires next to the umbilical cord. Its separated from the aluminum skin by a gasket I made out of a scrap inner tube. And overly vulkumed as you can see in the pics (I still need to clean that up a tad).

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Quick evening project I insulated and installed the inner skin under the front window. Ordered the fuse block for the umbilical cord yesterday. Hopefully that will arrive soon, although other stuff will keep me from working on her for the next two weekends.

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Were going to his pinning ceremony out in Groton next week. He's a nuke MMC(SS)

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Hey MC just a few posts to catch up on
Wheel wells go with kay"s names Happy wife Happy life lol
The Vista Views you pop riveted the middle of the shades Thru the shell or where?
looks good to see the inner skins going in
Did you move the convertor to street side and what cabinet will it be in and why move it?
The permanent umbilical cord. I was reading a thread on theft deterrents and a removable cord will prevent thief from having lights and brakes. Since most thefts occur at night they would be less likely to tow away w/o lights. Food for thought.
You resealed vista view window from inside is this a temporary repair. I thought it would be best to reseal from outside.
I also look forward to new posts from lil girl and glad to see your progress. Maybe someday I can see her in person.
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