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Old 06-30-2006, 12:00 PM   #21
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on my 78 the motor for the jack had a plastic bottle over it to protect it, when I took off the bottle, the blue plastic cover on the motor came apart. What I would like to know is where to store this motor when it is not used, and how to rewire the switch that fell off when the covering broke. I have a manual wrench for the jack but the motor seems like a good thing to use.
Alan, can you post a picture of yours? It sounds different than most I have seen, they have non-removable motors.
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Old 07-01-2006, 09:32 PM   #22
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Old 07-01-2006, 09:40 PM   #23
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I will post photos of my jack motor tommorow. Spent all day today ripping out carpet and tile, and priming the trim to paint inside.
Getting better every day.
Marvande- love the little I saw of your interior on your site..like to see more details. The colors look great.
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mine wasn't set up correctly to begin with. It didn't seem right that I had to get power from the tow vehicle to use the jack. It sounds like I should have a wire running from the lead on the jack along the tongue, into the unit to the power side. I'm thinking that ground is realized just by having it installed. Seems funny that there was no hint of a supply wire though.
The line that feeds the jack is the same line that goes to the break away switch. You need the 12 volts from the battery of the trailer if the trailer should ever seperate from your TV.
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:28 AM   #25
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Jack questions.....

The jack motor seems like it was hard wired, but should really be unpluggable for storage?
The small solenoid on the tongue a frame is for what?
What are the two added open square aluminum things for on the jack stand tube?
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Old 07-02-2006, 11:32 AM   #26
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here are the two aluminum square things I was asking about...
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Alan ~ Are you talking about this solenoid looking thing?


It's the breakaway switch. It should have one wire connected to your 12 volt battery (same line as jack) and the other goes to the brakes. From the looks of yours, I would toss that one and get a new one.

The brackets on the jack look like they might be part of a flag holder, that's just a guess.....

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Alan, my '73 uses a different type of jack, but the wiring is probably similar. Coming from the interior side of the 7-pin connector and from there thru the frame to the front of the tongue, are blue and red wires. These wires are connected to the two coming out of the break-away switch. Inside the trailer, the blue wire is connected to the wires going back to the brakes, themselves (presumably the positive side?). The red wire goes to the self resetting fuse next to the 7-pin. This fuse is in turn wired to the power from the TV and the feed coming from the Univolt.

There is only one wire for the jack. It is tapped off the red wire that feeds the break-away. I assume both the jack and break-away obtain ground directly from the frame.

Does any of this make sense? BTW, my jack is not made to be removed during storage, it is permanently mounted.

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Old 07-02-2006, 03:40 PM   #29
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ah yes to the breakway switch. I would replace that for sure. The flag holder, oh yeah! That's what is in my closet.. one of those multi flag aluminnum pole things.

Jim- you make sense if I can locate the correct wires. The motor for the jack is what I was wondering about storing. It sits on top and had a cover over it, but no way could it stay there when moving. Must need to unplug when not in use, but was not easy to do that. The switch on it came off totally when I moved it a bit. Might scrap it??
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Alan,
I would put money in the budget for a new electric jack down the road. My head is pinned on mine and has a cover over it. It stays on the jack all the time. It looks a bit different from yours. Mine has the gears on the top with the motor hanging off the side. Break away switches are relative cheap $10-$15 and readily available.

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Alan, a brand new electric jack is around $200 at my local Camping World. If and when mine ever goes South, I will just pick up a new one, and put it on. Three bolts and a wire, it's pretty easy to install.
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Old 07-02-2006, 09:28 PM   #32
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the budget is a little strained now so I will keep that on the wish list. I do have the handle to roll it by muscle power.
I still need an equalizing hitch and brake controller , and we are spending some on the interior redo. Oh yeah and I bought a truck this week. Not a bad week. Sold the Moho last week, bought a tt and a tv and got a lot of work done on the two of them.
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Old 07-08-2006, 11:39 AM   #33
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DIRT DAUBER mess...battery box locations

cleaning out the flooring, removed the gaucho, and attacked the walls near the univolt. All covered in dirt dauber dried out nests, maybe 15 or more.Yuchh.
Scrubbed it all out, found small rot spot behind the battery door, and a bit of sag where the battery sat.
I am repairing and sealing it all and thinking hard about removing the battery door, covering it over and going to the outside hitch mounted box like Dennis did on his Sovereign.
Where do others have their battery mounted??? I can run longer cables and move it to a covered marine type box, using an Optima gel battery.
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Old 07-08-2006, 04:10 PM   #34
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I finished painting the cabinets and trim, now will coat with gloss poly seal. They really look good, a bluish gray paint with small flecks of blue. Covered many small problem areas.
Removed the rear nightstand, we hate how big it is. Will put something else in there..7 hours in there today, got a lot more done.
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anyone have a battery relocation idea? Or are you all keeping them inside the trailer in the front?
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Alan, I'm moving mine from the back, under the shower, to where yours is now, under the goucho. Too much weight in the back end. Also moving the Univolt replacement there (haven't decided which one to buy yet). I figure it'll take at least 150 lbs off that weak-butt rear frame.

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The UNivolt is there at the front middle. Seems the battery adds too much weight unless I get under there and strengthen it somehow. The floor was not rotted but did sag there a bit. I looked into welding a support on the tongue as Dennis did on his, and might go that way, but if I can get the supports done, inside in a battery box would be ok.
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