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06-09-2011, 07:30 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2011 20' Flying Cloud
Spring
, Texas
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
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20' FC Rear Window
We are the proud owners of a 2011 20' Flying cloud and have not been able to figure out how to prop open the window at the rear of the trailer over the sink. The other windows all have prop bars to keep them open. Our trailer has none on this window. I know this seems minor but did Airstream forget something on our trailer? Thanks for your help!
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06-09-2011, 07:45 AM
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2006 19' International CCD
Olathe
, Kansas
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 4,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Marjon
We are the proud owners of a 2011 20' Flying cloud and have not been able to figure out how to prop open the window at the rear of the trailer over the sink. The other windows all have prop bars to keep them open. Our trailer has none on this window. I know this seems minor but did Airstream forget something on our trailer? Thanks for your help!
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It's most likely an emergency exit. That's how our 19' Bambi is set up.
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06-09-2011, 08:01 AM
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Rivet Master
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Anywhere &
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,090
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You have to use something to prop this window open - at least it was that way in my 2007 20'.
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06-09-2011, 09:20 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2008 20' Safari SE
Charlotte
, North Carolina
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 147
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Our 20'er's rear window is designated as an emergency exit. I think that the standard window opening arms were omitted because they would limit your ability to open the window fully in the event of an emergency. I also wish that it could be opened out from inside the trailer, though.
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06-09-2011, 09:23 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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It's a required emergency escape window, and would not open fully with the opening hardware you have on the other windows. Some have made a prop to hold it open. We just open it, then go outside and turn the locking clips back up to hold it open slightly. That, with all the other windows, vents, door, provides plenty of ventilation. When resting on the locking clips, it will rattle some when the wind blows, so just wrap one of the clips with a rubber band and you won't hear it.
doug k
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06-09-2011, 10:54 AM
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I just went and looked at a 20 FC in the showroom, and all I can say is that emergency exit had to be mandated by a buerocrat. There's no way anybody but a contortion artist could use it to exit the trailer.
With that in mind, and advising about any legality about doing so, yada yada, the window can be relatively easily modified so you can put lift arms and guides on it to hold it open. You'd have to DIY, because of liability, but less than a hundred dollars in parts would make it like a normal window.
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06-09-2011, 11:22 AM
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New Member
Currently Looking...
Overland Park
, Kansas
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3
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We are thinking of getting a Flying Cloud 20. Just wondering how the front bed is working out? Are two people sleeping in the bed (48" wide) or is it really just too small to?
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06-09-2011, 01:23 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2011 20' Flying Cloud
Spring
, Texas
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acsimon
We are thinking of getting a Flying Cloud 20. Just wondering how the front bed is working out? Are two people sleeping in the bed (48" wide) or is it really just too small to?
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acsimon, We love our 20 foot FC! neither of us are real big people, and after 27 years of marriage we still love each other so we enjoy being close. We did buy a memory foam mattress topper, but we have found the front bed to be fine!
Marjon
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06-09-2011, 05:24 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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We are an average size couple, retired and good health. It is no problem after sleeping in it 400 nights or so. Some folks want a bed they can walk around, or needs lots of room to sleep, so it would not suit them.
The design of the 20 is remarkably efficient. Its weak point is bedroom size, the trade-off is one of Airstream's largest kitchens.
Because we have enjoyed the trailer so much and spend so much time with it, I am looking for better seating than the dinette offers. Something with a sofa or recliners but no larger than 25'. We may have to sell and move up, but that will be with great reluctance as the 20 (actually 20' 10") is a good design and very reliable.
doug k
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06-09-2011, 05:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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By the way, we are considering moving to a Flying Cloud 23 Sofa model which has the same size bed (48" wide") as our Safari 20, if that tells you anything. Its not the bed, its the seating I'm looking for.
doug k
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06-10-2011, 09:48 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 19' Safari SE
Tucson
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,627
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Our back window is the same way in the 19' Bambi. It's the escape window as noted above. We open the latches, then prop it open from the outside with a short stick with a notch in it to fit over the edge of the glass. We prop the end of the stick nearest the trailer on the latch...then if we want to close it from inside we just turn the latch and the stick falls, allowing the window to close. Crude, but it works for us.
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