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Old 01-18-2021, 09:13 PM   #1
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No water even when pump is working or sounding like it is.

Just hooked up my 2003 25' Safari. I'm a newbie, and orientation was a month ago so don't remember anything they said about certain things. Emptied the winterized tanks and filled it back up but there was no cutoff and the bathroom flooded. I shut off the water and emptied again. put more in but turned it off after a few minutes. Tried the taps, one spurt and then they stopped totally. Still nothing comes out when I try. Ran the furnace all day at 56 to see if they needed thawing. That wasn't the answer either. Water in the tanks, pump on as far as the sound indicates. Nothing out of the taps. Any ideas?
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Old 01-19-2021, 12:17 AM   #2
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Check that you hooked up your city water hose to the correct inlet. One of them is a black tank flusher. That would explain the flooded bathroom.
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Old 01-19-2021, 05:48 AM   #3
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Nevadadave,

When you are describing your situation let folks know if you are on the water pump or hooked to city water.

If using the pump, they start up, run and then slow down and finally stop as pressure is built up in the system.

If city water:
Check the hose to trailer water connection these may have a debris screen, see if it's clogged.
Remove an aerator at the lav sink, test for water flow w/o it in place. If you then have water clean or replace it. Continue checking aerators elsewhere and flush the pipes with them removed.

If you find crud in aerators might also want to do a thorough hot water tank flush.

Did you find the source of the leak? I'm confused on that.

Good luck.

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Old 01-19-2021, 07:01 AM   #4
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Yep, it really sounds like you hooked up to the black tank flush.
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Pump problem possibility

If you have any air leak at all on the inlet side of the pump, it will not pump water. Clue here is that the pump won't shut off. It will run continuously.

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Agree, sounds like black tank flush. I need to double check myself each time I use either on. Should be marked better
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Ok two posts suggesting itís the black tank flush.

Anybody have an explanation for how that floods the interior of a trailer?
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Old 01-19-2021, 11:27 AM   #8
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No water even when pump is working or sounding like it is.

Overfill the black tank enough, and you either get water out the roof vent, or from the lavatory sink if itís plumbed to the black tank.

Or it leaks out of an unglued joint or unconnected black vent line which has also been known to happen.

He did not state the exact source of the flooding.
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Agreed OP has not detailed source of flooding. If a sink was plumbed into black tank that should leave a wet sink.

I pulled my AS toilet one time years ago but no exact memory for how it sealed etc. foam ring gasket maybe?

No fish flush city water connected goes thru back flow preventer into flush head at tank. Mine makes a decent water spray sound while running etc but the use of it does not flood the trailer interior. You need to be attending the tank flush while in use.

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Another possibility for pump making noise and not working is valve set to winterize, pump anti-freeze from jug.
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I find that I need to make sure all taps are closed when starting up after the pump has been run dry.

If a tap is left open, it will run but won’t pump water.

Once primed, ok until next winterization.


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Old 01-19-2021, 04:51 PM   #12
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Just hooked up my 2003 25' Safari. I'm a newbie, and orientation was a month ago so don't remember anything they said about certain things. Emptied the winterized tanks and filled it back up but there was no cutoff and the bathroom flooded. I shut off the water and emptied again. put more in but turned it off after a few minutes. Tried the taps, one spurt and then they stopped totally. Still nothing comes out when I try. Ran the furnace all day at 56 to see if they needed thawing. That wasn't the answer either. Water in the tanks, pump on as far as the sound indicates. Nothing out of the taps. Any ideas?

Dave,
Your description is a bit confusing. Your reference to "winterized tanks": typically the grey, black and fresh water tanks are emptied not winterized. As several have suggested the most direct way to flood the bathroom is by connecting a shore water source to the black water flush fitting. Filling the fresh water tank is a completely separate access. Behind a locked door on the side of your coach.
Depending on who/how the coach was winterized and water is in the fresh water tank it is not uncommon for the water pump to fail when first turned on in the spring.
Open one faucet and turn on the pump. With water in the fresh water tank one would typically hear the pump change pitch as it picks up water. If you don't hear a change that indicates the pump is not drawing either because there is an air leak in the line between the tank and pump or the pump has failed internally.
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There are a lot of unknowns here. From the description, it appears that the owner is not experienced with this trailer. Some of the issues could be; no water in the fresh water tank, a winterization issue and city water not attached to the correct inlet.

Hopefully, the owner will check back and help us help him.
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The OP seems to have gone silent...
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While the problem does sound a lot like an overfill of the black tank via the wash out port, a common lack of water through the pump of a trailer can be a clogged filter at the pump. Had it happen to me a couple of years back on my 2004 Classic. Once that screen in the filter gets covered with sediment, the water will stop even though the pump is working hard. What surprised me is looking at filter you might not be able to see the debris as much as you think. I pulled my filter and with a long nail scraped the element of the filter. Then I realized that the filter was coated with a fine layer of sediment.

With a trailer that age, it probably would be good to replace the filter anyway.

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