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Old 11-08-2016, 02:01 AM   #1
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A hose is a hose is a hose

Sure the white hose is required. We keep two (50 and 25 footer). Why the gray one? We can always use the available white one to flush the black holding tank, even to wash down the RV. What do I get wrong?

Part of our KISS routine is to carry everything we need, but not one more. Sorting through 'stuff' to get to what we need is annoying.
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The different colors indicate the properties of the hose. The white I need for the vacuum toilet, they are gas-tight. The ventilation of the black water tank is black and flexible ..
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Old 11-08-2016, 06:01 AM   #3
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Some people like to be very sure their water supply doesn't become contaminated.

Chances are pretty good that the water spigot at the dump station has been contaminated by people handling it and their slinkies. Connecting your white hose to that could contaminate it. And then contaminate the next fresh water connection you use.

Other people don't worry so much.

KISS is good, but is it a big deal to carry the grey hose?
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Some people like to be very sure their water supply doesn't become contaminated.

Chances are pretty good that the water spigot at the dump station has been contaminated by people handling it and their slinkies. Connecting your white hose to that could contaminate it. And then contaminate the next fresh water connection you use.

Other people don't worry so much.

KISS is good, but is it a big deal to carry the grey hose?

Ditto. We use a standard garden hose for any waste related activities and white hoses for potable applications. Distinct colors for distinct tasks. The only brown liquid I want near my lips is coffee or bourbon.
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Old 11-08-2016, 07:10 AM   #5
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Ditto to the last two comments. The white hose should not even come out of storage at the dump station, and should also be used carefully at regular hose bibs at campgrounds which may not have "careful" campers, who may have contaminated the hose bibs with their unsanitary hoses.

Gastro-intestinal bugs are no fun.

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PS -- In some rural campgrounds it is still OK to run one's grey water out into the bushes, which is a perfect use for a green/grey garden hose, which thus has more than one use.
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Back flow preventers fail. I would just as soon not have back wash from my black tank in my drinking water hose. For me, White for drinking/potable water and green for flushing and other wash down duties.
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I have several certified drinking water hoses for Lucy. None of them are white. I currently have 2 twenty-five footers that are navy blue and one fifty footer that is purple. Contrary to one statement, color of the hose does not necessarily mean anything.

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Old 11-08-2016, 08:32 AM   #8
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At most dump stations, the water connection for back washing is NOT for human consumption. I would not want to use my fresh water hose We have 3 fresh water hoses, one 10 footer that is used 70%, and two 25' that are used when needed. All 3 are stored under the propane tank up front. Have one black 10' that is used 80% of the time to connect the black tank flush and one 25' that is used when needed. Both are stored in the back compartment.
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I don't remember where I read this first, but I carry a 1 pt. spray bottle with bleach/water mixture in it and spray the freshwater hose bib with it before connecting up. I don't know whether it is that effective or not, but I feel better doing it.

I carry two white hoses (because that is what was with both trailers when I bought them) and two common green hoses (one long and one short) for other purposes. My 25 didn't have black tank flush and the one on my 30 is stopped up, so I use the Camco spray wand. It works great, just a little difficult to hook up and get inside the trailer. Thinking about putting a hose bib in with the water heater plumbing.

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I don't remember where I read this first, but I carry a 1 pt. spray bottle with bleach/water mixture in it and spray the freshwater hose bib with it before connecting up. I don't know whether it is that effective or not, but I feel better doing it.
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Or you can flame it (just hit the connection threads and opening with a math or a lighter.) That's a standard procedure when collecting a water sample for analysis.
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I remember trying to convince a foreign family traveling in a rented RV that they shouldn't be filling their fresh water tank from the spigot at the dump station that was labeled non-potable. Unfortunately we didn't speak the same language, so I couldn't get my point across. He did try to explain that it was OK, he had two separate tanks (??). His wife looked concerned, but they kept on filling. I wonder how their trip turned out....
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I've run a white hose for fresh water for years. As a full timer, I have found that white hose will start to grow green stuff where exposed to sun and heat.
So, I tend to run them for a year, and retire them to garden hose duty.
I'm running the blue color now to see if the green will grow with the different color. The champagne color will grow green too.
I try to minimize sun exposure to my water line & filter.

As to sanitizing, taking sterile samples was one of my duties. The brewery used rubbing alcohol to squirt and a torch to burn off the bugs.
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OK, I get it. I never used a dump station but RV parks where they provide you with one spigot.
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I have a blue hose for fresh water and a white hose for black tank flush.
The blue hose is a little sturdier and has better quality ends and fittings.
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Its all the same water supply, do you actually think there is a separate non-potable water pipe...... - its just a good idea not to connect your fresh water hose where others may have connected their clean out hose.

Come to think of it - is there really a difference when you connect to the water at a full hook up site? Don't people usually cleanout their slinky and associated tanks right at a campsite? Which hose are they hooking up? I hookup the cleanout hose to the spigot on trailer...
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ditto - store a dedicated water hose separate from anything to do with the drainage. I actually have two hoses each with a pressure regulator and keep one in the car. This way I have a backup if there is a break in the hose or other problem that may crop up on site. Plus in my older age I tend to forget one of the hoses so redundancy is a good thing. I can get back home with a 1/2 full holding tank but I need my water supply to be connected and working
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Many locations that are close to a body of water do have separate non potable pipes/pumps that are run directly from the body of water. That in many cases is done to save the provider money, they aren't being charged sewer/water fees for the non potable water from the municipality. If it says non potable you can bet I'm not hooking to it for fresh water.
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Keep it simple AND don't be stupid. Read the labels of hoses!! A quick JFGI shows a lack of standardization of colors for "hoses". You can find high quality NSF certified, food grade hoses in black, not to mention other colors. Plain Jane garden hoses may have unknown deficiencies of heavy metal leaching (Lead) and assorted other contaminants. Buying the white, "food safe" labeled hoses seems only prudent. Why take the risk of ruining a vacation with a trip to urgent care? The comments that folks have made here regarding "disinfecting" taps is also prudent, although not necessarily absolutely effective. Sure it's a hassle to carry an extra hose and wear gloves. Don't be cavalier about the potency of bacteria, viruses and other invisible contaminants. This forum has a wealth of opinions AND more research helps. Don't believe a word I've said until you've confirmed it elsewhere! Safety and health are top priorities.
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Many locations that are close to a body of water do have separate non potable pipes/pumps that are run directly from the body of water. That in many cases is done to save the provider money, they aren't being charged sewer/water fees for the non potable water from the municipality. If it says non potable you can bet I'm not hooking to it for fresh water.
Agree. Many municipalities (I'm thinking SW FL where I spend the winter) provide both potable and non potable water to all consumers. The non potable is typically connected to home irrigation systems or other consumers (think car wash) as the non potable water while still metered is paid at a much lower rate than nonpotable water. No way would I use a faucet labeled "non potable" just because I didn't believe the campground, rest area, truck stop would have two separate lines!!

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Not going to call anyone stupid for their choice of hoses. I drank from green and black garden hoses for years. Still alive and kicking.
I do occasionally run a little bleach thru all my hoses to keep the little beasties under control.
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