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Old 12-06-2020, 07:49 PM   #1
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69 Globetrotter Renovation Project

My son bought a 69 Globetrotter over 10 years ago. It was in pretty good shape at the time. 1969 was the first year of the new body style, and this trailer has the infamous "3 corner" wing windows in front.

Quite frankly I was never a fan of the 69 Globetrotter floor layout. His model is a "twin" with a dinette in front with a fold up table. But folding it down yields two bench seats with very little sleeping room. There is a rear fold out couch that also makes into a pretty small, uncomfortable sleeping space.

The wet bath in the rear street side corner is a joke in my view. It is a fiberglass molded "shower pan" with a ABS sink and countertop. And there is that terrible above floor black tank with a straight down drain port. You gotta get on your knees in the mud to connect the sewer hose to this thing. The designer must have never been traveling in a trailer with full hook ups. And the connection is at the very rear of the trailer. Scrape the bumper and the sewer connection breaks off. Oh well, saves going to the dump station.

The galley cabinet is standard Airstream fair but with a single, 6" deep stainless sink. My 66 Trade Wind had a double sink porcelain coated. The fridge and furnace cabinet is also standard vintage Airstream stuff.

Here are a few photos "as found". Notice the trailer hitch mounted underneath the rear bumper. Definitely a bad idea.

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My 70 Safari has the same basic layout as your son's Globe Trotter. This was a one year only layout for the Safari. It was part of Airstream's lower priced "Special Land Yacht" series for 1970, which included Caravel, Globe Trotter, and Safari. All three models had the road side rear corner wet bath, but with one important difference. Airstream moved the sink out of the shower area and into the cabinet below the rear window. This allowed more floor space in the shower, although the head room was still low due to the curved ceiling.

The Safari sleeping configuration was the same as the Globe Trotter, but the extra two foot length allowed the twin beds up front to be equal length. Also the galley cabinet is larger and includes a double bowl sink.

I am in the process of doing a restoration of my Safari. The detailed posts of your projects have been both helpful and entertaining as I progress with my own project.

Here are a few "as found" pictures.
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David-is the width of the '69 the same as the 66'-'68. The reason I ask, is that I just don't think the bath layout in the Caravel can be beat, and that was the opinion of Paul Mayeaux who did my shell off portion of my restoration. I love the forward space of the GT, but agree that the bathroom is it's drawback. Maybe in a year, I'll start my '67 Safari, and the bath layout isn't worth making a plug and fabbing up a new bathroom pan, but that would be worth a thought, depending on how far your son's trailer is going to get mod'ed vs restored. Jerry
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Thank you for the photos Dremstreameer. I got to tour a 2006 International CCD 25' yesterday. I noticed the vanity sink was outside and it had a wet corner bath with an above floor 18 gallon black tank with the drain manifold hanging low in the back. The outside vanity sink is a good idea in my view.

I see your Safari has a double sink in the galley. Ours did not have this. You also have the flip up counter extension, which I thought was a good idea. My 66 Trade Wind had this, as well as my 75 Overlander. I'm planning on adding one to the Globetrotter when I remake the galley cabinet.

Hi docflyboy: I met Atomic_13 via video meeting Monday. We were talking about you. I won't say what we talked about. I will say the both of you are exceptional Airstream craftsmen. My Globetrotter project will just be basic stuff made with hand tools. Not exceptional, but functional I hope.

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Old 12-09-2020, 08:18 PM   #5
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I have a 69 Caravel, one size smaller than the Globetrotter, but with the same basic layout. My galley is smaller, my front is a small gaucho. How many times I have dreamt of having the luxurious space of a Globetrotter.

If you come to terms with the size constraints the AS engineers were working within, you can better appreciate how much functionality they were able to squeeze into the small trailers.

The design feat is all the more remarkable when you realize how little the trailers weigh, especially compared to newer models even just a decade later, much less those that are half a century newer. You will especially appreciate this at the gas pump if you travel much. Some vintage folk bemoan how AS abandoned solid wood cabinets starting with the 69s and onward, but they overlook the weight savings; and as far as durability, my clever cardboard honeycomb-core cabinet doors are still holding up great 50 years later, so exactly how much more durability do they want?

These trailers were the first major redesign of the space age, and that American can-do ingenuity of that era is apparent as you start looking closely at the design. Later iterations went too far with lightening holes drilled willy-nilly in the frames without any engineering analysis into load forces which resulted in the infamous rear-end separation issues endemic in longer trailers of the 70s vintage.

Here is a challenge that will certainly help you admire the Globetrotter's design -- as you remodel, even with the benefit of a half century advancement in technology and materials, try to design and build as much versatile functionality, with as much durability but without adding any more weight. Think you can do it? Maybe, but it won't be cheap or easy, that's for sure.

And if you can actually add more functionality but make the trailer even lighter but just as strong and durable, that will be a most impressive accomplishment for sure.
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Dinette

After considerable discussions, we decided to rebuild the front "room" layout into a "U" shaped dinette. My son camps with friends and they tend to gather in his Airstream for fun and games in the evening, especially if it is raining out.

We "benchmarked" various U shaped dinettes at the local RV show. Most of them had very wobbly tables where you pull out the posts and then make the dinette into a sleeping surface. Then we saw what the new Airstreams were using and decided it was best. It is a marine pedestal that telescopes down. It had a very solid base. So we order a pedestal and designed a dinette around it.

First thing is all the fun of tearing out the old stuff. The subfloor wasn't too bad at all. Same with the fresh water tank. We applied a couple of coats of polyethylene to the subfloor and then measured and taped out what we thought would be U shaped dinette made from square boxes. Figuring out a good seating depth and height, a good backrest height and other factors is important in the design.

So here we go...

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David- I think you'll like that pedestal for your table. I had a connection a few years back to a pretty well known shop in your neck of the woods. I got all the benches out of a certain celeb's trailer to make it his shabby chic dressing room. It have one of those pedestal's, and I had it in my '05 in a booth setup, till I put a new Flexsteel jackknife sofa up front. That option would give you two twins or a queen size. The pedestal base is rock solid.

By the way, the trailer came in the unnamed shop with a personal stain and a pair of thong panties under a cushion. Name sounds like the goose that quacks an insurance company's name. People been talking about Jerry since 1955. Bet you had a great visit with Brian. Cheers.
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I checked the outside width of a 69 Globetrotter in Airstream Archives that recorded it as 92". The 68 Globetrotter spec recorded at 90" I'm sure the new body in 69 was wider at the beltline, but I don't have that dimension.

It is expensive to build light. Coosa board comes to light. How about carbon fiber? I was impressed with my 75 Overlander with all the aluminum extrusions used to build the cabinets. Lighter than wood, maybe stronger, but more expensive. I think I read there some 80 extruded aluminum parts in the Overlander.

The pedestal is a nice piece. We paid about $350 and I found it for sale on the walmart website of all places. It is a marine fishing boat pedestal. It expands to almost 40" and it collapses to about 15". Makes converting from table to cushion support pretty easy.

I started making boxes with 1x2 red oak square trim boards. Not light, but pretty strong. I attached to the floor with L brackets. I was gong to use orange crates but they weren't strong enough.

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Old 12-11-2020, 10:14 AM   #9
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69 Trailer Well Built

I have found the 69 Globetrotter to be well built. The overhead cabinets are solid. The door jams for the wardrobe and bathroom are solid 3/4" hardwood. I especially liked the fact that Airstream attached the walls to the door frames with staples. They have held tight through all these years. The little corner cabinet under the rear window was nice. I liked the thin plastic sheet hinges on the rear gaucho storage under the cushions as well as the nice pull out trays. Airstream usually used plastic bins for this purpose.

Our trailer is not an international model, and I'm not sure one was offered for the Globetrotter. But there is nothing shabby about the way this trailer was built. Ours is a California built trailer and I don't know if that makes a difference.

We were not fans of the floor layout, but the quality of the interior was quite good in my opinion.

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Yes, you hit it exactly with the observation that lighter is more expensive. It’s just as true with trailers as it is with golf clubs and fishing rods and bike frames.

I have seen some sheets of carbon fiber of various qualities for sale, but as cool and strong as they are, I would not want to try to build an interior of an airstream with all of its compound Curves with sheets of carbon fiber. It would be awesome if there were some prefab carbon fiber end caps available, but they would probably be an order of magnitude more expensive than the fiberglass end caps, but only a little bit stronger.

Coosa board is expensive, but the amount that you would need to do the subfloor in a globetrotter would not be too bad, and many here in the forum have replaced the rotten plywood with Coosa board successfully. Airstream currently is using a composite subfloor that will actually accept screws directly, and it’s all one piece. It is made by a Company in Ohio that uses it for the flooring in semi trailers. I have no idea if it’s even available after market.

Regardless, You wouldn’t necessarily have to go with super exotic materials to keep the weight down, but the lighter you can make your trailer, the happier you and your tow vehicle will be down the road.
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I covered the framing with 1/2" plywood. The boxes will provide considerable storage space underneath the seats. Not the most accessible, but better than wasting the space.

Decided to keep the original covered end piece next to the door. But we don't need the "flip up" feature that gave that side of the little sleeping surface a foot rest. Clever, but inadequate except for small children. When in use, the foot rest was in the way of the entry door.

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I finished boxing in the boxes for your U shaped dinette. All the space in the boxes will be accessible for storage in typical Airstream fashion. I also made the corner pieces to cover that space too. The street side is where the water pump resides. We are reusing the curb side end piece in keeping with a vintage look. It won't have the flip up feature Airstream installed to make that side into a possible sleeping surface.

A little progress made.

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Nice work so far, David. I like that you kept the vintage look of the end piece. Is that end piece covered in fabric or is it just painted wood? I have the same shaped end piece in my Safari. However, I'm not sure it is original because it looks like '70s wood paneling and looks very much out of place.
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That "end cap" is padded and covered in vinyl material. The Globetrotter had unequal length bench seating in the original dinette. The end cap flipped up as a footrest during the night. Your feet stuck out into the entry door area. We're not doing that.

Nice looking 70 Safari twin with a front dinette. The double bed Safari was a different layout with a gaucho up front I think. Anyway, I don't know if your trailer's bench seats are original or not. But whatever, they look nice. Is yours an International trim level?

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I assembled the plywood "lids" over the dinette boxes with piano hinges. The lids will open giving access to the space underneath. I also added a trim piece around the lids to hold the cushions in place. We have received the foam, but need to cut it and then make covers for the cushions. That will take a while.

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That "end cap" is padded and covered in vinyl material. The Globetrotter had unequal length bench seating in the original dinette. The end cap flipped up as a footrest during the night. Your feet stuck out into the entry door area. We're not doing that.

Nice looking 70 Safari twin with a front dinette. The double bed Safari was a different layout with a gaucho up front I think. Anyway, I don't know if your trailer's bench seats are original or not. But whatever, they look nice. Is yours an International trim level?

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Thank you, David. That gives me a clue that my bench end caps were likely covered as well. As I recall, padded vinyl was quite popular in the '70s, so I will try to incorporate that feature in my restoration.

The Safari is two feet longer than the Globe Trotter which allowed equal length twin benchs. I find them to be quite comfortable as twin beds for someone of average height. How clever of Airstream to offer a flip up extension for the short bench in the Globe Trotter.

You are correct in that Airstream offered the Safari in both a twin and double configuration up front. In 1970 the Safari was not included in the International trim level. There was a Special Land Yacht trim, which is what mine is, and there was a Deluxe trim. In the Deluxe trim the roadside corner wet bath was replaced with a bathroom across the back. The rear gaucho was moved forward opposite the galley. The front area of the trailer remained the same for either trim level.
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David-looking good. Did you put a hardwood veneer over your vertical faces? They look great. Was your trailer originally an Ash case-goods trailer? Keep up the good work. Jerry
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Hi docflyboy: No, the material I used for the facias was just oak veneer plywood that I slobbered some stain on. I don't know the original wood choice was in this Globetrotter. I do know the cabinet shop at Airstream did a pretty good job building them. They wore well over the many years. Eventually I plan on making a new galley cabinet, a new bath vanity cabinet, and a new bedroom dresser cabinet. That is a ways down the road.

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Table That

As mentioned, we have this rather stout marine boat seat pedestal that collapses from the full up position to about 14". It has a big base for stability. We made a "prototype" table that will work for the down position for the sleeping surface, a mid position with the leafs up for a "coffee table", and the up position for dining. It might work. We shall see.

We can't mount the pedestal until the floor covering is installed. We plan on getting a better piece of wood for the final table if the powers to be approve of this design.

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David-That's a clever set up with the folding top, since the pedestal can rotate. Will you have a slider underneath for support when it's folded out, like a Walter's of Wabash?- Jerry
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