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09-26-2011, 04:53 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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I never drink the stuff because I don't like colored water. I also know what that "Rocky Mountain Spring Water" really is—creek water passing by many old mining sites with nasty stuff coming out of them.
Gene
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09-26-2011, 05:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Chicago
, Illinois
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 530
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I like the bathroom mirror and the large windows in the entrance doors..
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09-26-2011, 05:58 PM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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I notice there is, as yet, no pics of the streetside.
As for being "aero" the front cap is okay. But the lack of sidwall radius at the upper corners make this trailer a non-starter in my mind. Independent suspension would make a difference, and it would be nice to see the lay-out of the tanks. The Super Slide might also make for some interesing numbers on the scale, side-to-side. This is a park-it-at-the-lake trailer, not a run-it-down-the-road trailer.
The lack of windows is bad. That bedroom may be big, but it "feels" like a hotel room of the wrong kind. Okay for the television addicts.
I don't see redeeming factors, so, like the post above, this appears to be meant to appeal to owners of Tahoes who don't like SWB's.
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09-26-2011, 06:07 PM
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#44
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Rivet Master
1967 26' Overlander
Winston Salem
, North Carolina
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 524
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Typical boring THOR interior,
Awning too small, does not cover rear door.
Rubber roof, that won't fly.
The grey exterior would get old to me fast.
The styling reminds me of a early 80's Londonaire trailer from Newmar.
Airstream has nothing to worry about.
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Greg
Winston Salem, NC
WBCCI 5218,
Corresponding Secretary Piedmont NC Unit 161,
1967 Overlander International.
1979 Avion 30ft rear bath
TV's 88 Chevy Suburban 454, 3:42, TH400
95 Cadillac FW Brougham, LT1,3:42, 7k tow pk.
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09-26-2011, 08:53 PM
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#45
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4 Rivet Member
1962 22' Flying Cloud
Bend
, Oregon
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 370
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Looks like it needs new axles!
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09-27-2011, 09:47 AM
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Rivet Master
1959 17' Pacer
Long Beach
, California
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 920
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FLYNCLD
Looks like it needs new axles!
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No, no, no-- I hear it's got some "innovative" and "ground-breaking" technology: Henschen Dura-Torque axles. They apparently never need replacement....
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09-27-2011, 08:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,584
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Troy Nusbaum, Product Manager for Keystone's new Vantage responded to my inquiry about more info:
"We had a very successful unveiling last week here in Indiana and we're eagerly anticipating our first production units in mid October. You can expect to see more information on our website closer to that time frame."
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09-27-2011, 10:36 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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We were traveling on US in Colorado today and I saw a truck pulling a white trailer with rounded corners coming toward us. "Is it a Vantage on a secret test drive?" I wondered. It was a horse trailer.
Gene
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09-27-2011, 11:47 PM
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Rivet Master
1978 28' Ambassador
Morada
, California
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,584
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Maybe they will eventually make a 'toy hauler' model so one can carry their mechanical 'horses'...
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09-30-2011, 09:53 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 19' Globetrotter
Currently Looking...
Orion
, Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 714
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I saw a grey Vantage being being towed down the interstate two days ago ; talk about an ugly trailer ! Looks like something a FEMA committee designed.
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09-30-2011, 10:31 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 7,801
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Wasn't the first time bad enough?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 63air
I saw a grey Vantage being being towed down the interstate two days ago ; talk about an ugly trailer ! Looks like something a FEMA committee designed.
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Squarestream II - by Thor!
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10-25-2011, 04:13 PM
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Rivet Master
2011 25' FB Flying Cloud
Anywhere &
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,090
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrawfordGene
I do doubt it. It is a large corporation with many brands and whether they talk to each other cannot be assumed.
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Considering the fact the Airstream factory and repair facility don't bother talking to each other and they're side by side it's probably easy to assume that the various Thor brands don't either.
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10-25-2011, 06:30 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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10-26-2011, 08:18 AM
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Rivet Master
1989 34.5' Airstream 345
Saint Petersburg
, Florida
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,702
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Nah, think I'd pass on this one. If they had continued the exterior walls over the top (Roof) is might be worth a consideration. Too many friends with SOB's and rubber roofs. You can never get the exterior clean, cuz rubber is always deteriorating (as per design) If you like white streaks, I say "Go for it"
Derek
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10-26-2011, 10:28 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Currently Looking...
Plymouth Meeting
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 42
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Vantage - Choice is Good
I would expect criticisms of the Vantage at this forum but I'm not sure the Vantage is as bad as noted. I'm still studying all the trailers (I do like the Airstream else I wouldn't bother with this forum) however visiting the Vantage website it looks pretty impressive. The rubber roof and streaks a problem? I don't know. How does that compare to the million complaints about the much worse leaks and rotting floors of the AS?
As units are built, no doubt some refinements will probably take place. Remember not all TT shoppers are infected with the Airstream mystic so they will indeed consider the Vantage. Like anything, if it is priced right it'll sell and at the current sky high AS prices, how can it not beat the pants off Airstream? I hope it does, 'cause I like new and down the road I want a more affordable, viable choice.
I'm happy that Thor Industries has the financial muscle and dealer network to make it happen. Choice it good.
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10-26-2011, 12:14 PM
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Master of Universe
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Grand Junction
, Colorado
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 12,711
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Thor has cheapened the build quality of Airstreams over the years and that must have hurt sales as this fact is frequently mentioned here. Airstreams are Thor's premium product, so imagine what the Vantage build quality will be like.
Quality costs a lot in the short run. Airstreams cost what a quality product would, but don't deliver. If I were to look for a trailer now, I'd consider Airstream because they are so cool, but looks aren't everything. I'd also look at other brands that have a better reputation for quality.
Gene
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10-26-2011, 03:52 PM
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Aluminum Falcon Mechanic
1972 31' Sovereign
Wesley chapel
, Florida
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 1,169
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Looks like a loaf of wonderbread...
Still would rather take and old AS and make it what I want..
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10-27-2011, 07:31 AM
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Vintage Kin
Fort Worth
, Texas
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 8,014
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A rubber roof is never acceptable. A fiberglass roof extending over all edges would be.
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10-27-2011, 09:59 AM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' Flying Cloud
Battle Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 7,714
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It is a mystery why people come on this forum and talk about other brands - Vantage, Earthbound, etc - that might be better. They may be better(but I doubt it).
Why substitute, they all got their problems. Just get the Airstream. You know what the quirks are and they are preventable or repairable. Eighty years of tradition and timeless styling are worth a lot.
doug k
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10-27-2011, 10:00 AM
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Rivet Master
Port Orchard
, Washington
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 4,463
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What the H.....?
I just ran across this thread.
My Airstream and I are both offended that anyone would think that dumpy cheap looking thing bears any resemblance to an Airstream.
It does however look like someone over inflated a Casita or perhaps heated a bigfoot to the point it started to sag and run.
The most amusing to me is that it looks like someone put a gob of bread dough on a trailer frame and it sagged over the edges. However, the black tank cover does a great job of complementing its lack of beauty.
Ken
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