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09-18-2010, 09:34 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
Portland
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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stolen airstreams
Last weekend my wife and I met a woman who owned a 1950's Bubble that had been redone (quite nicely). As she showed us the trailer she commented that the reason that it wasn't polished was because she had heard that if you polish a vintage airstream it contibutes to it being stolen. I was not aware of this problem. Is it fact or (Airstream) urban legend. Anyone know???
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09-18-2010, 09:54 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,617
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 64tr0tter
Last weekend my wife and I met a woman who owned a 1950's Bubble that had been redone (quite nicely). As she showed us the trailer she commented that the reason that it wasn't polished was because she had heard that if you polish a vintage airstream it contibutes to it being stolen. I was not aware of this problem. Is it fact or (Airstream) urban legend. Anyone know???
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I would say maybe, but probably not.
If the trailer was stolen for a quick sale, a polished trailer would sell faster and at a higher price.
I would think that most stolen trailers wind up sitting in the woods on leased land or get parted out. I doubt a thief would take a highly polished trailer because it would draw too much attention.
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09-18-2010, 10:24 AM
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Rivet Master
1951 21' Flying Cloud
1960 24' Tradewind
West Coast
, BC
Join Date: Feb 2005
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I agree with Richard - the highly polished trailers are much more memorable to people so towing one any distance would be a risk. The more mundane it looks, the easier it is to secret it away.
Sure there have been polished Airstreams stolen, but I doubt it is because it is polished, but more for resale, use in some out of the way location, or parts . If I were trying to hide a trailer the non-shiny one would be far easier, even if it is out in the open.
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09-18-2010, 11:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
, Ohio
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Simply put, my next airstream will have unique markings like nonstandard colored trim, to make it easy for a non-airstreamer to recognize. It will have large, helicopter visible numbers on the roof. Something that looks the same from left or right, like 88 or 69. I will engrave the window glass with the VIN/SN.
It will also have a GPS tracking system/alarm. Because thieves are stupid and may ignore all of that. If it gets stolen anyway, I *will* know where it is. The GPS signal issue will be solved by running a 12v supply to the AC, and installing the device inside the AC shroud where it will be inaccessible, yet have a good, non-blocked view of the sky. Used car dealers can buy these units for around $200 now, with a certain number of location inquiries included in the price. Solar will keep it running.
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09-18-2010, 08:16 PM
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1972 Travelux Princess 25
Cobourg
, Ontario
Join Date: Oct 2008
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I was thinking a polished Airstream would be less likely to be stolen, like a bright orange Corvette with yellow racing stripes. The more eye catching and distinctive, the less appealing to the discriminating thief who does not want to get caught.
It would also be easier to find even in Google Earth photos.
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09-28-2010, 11:32 PM
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Rivet Master
2006 25' Safari FB SE
1972 23' Safari
Houston
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2009
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It's been almost a month now since my trailer was stolen and nary a word. Police don't care, too many other more important things to look for. It's bright and shiny even if it's old, anything that looks sexy will attract a thief and Airstreams qualify. Cities have red light cameras and cameras up and down the highways but getting the right people to spot it is the problem. I will put a GPS tracker on my next rig, just need info on what to buy besides LoJack.
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09-29-2010, 07:04 AM
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Rivet Master
2007 30' Classic
Oswego
, Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RichHog
It's been almost a month now since my trailer was stolen and nary a word. Police don't care, too many other more important things to look for. It's bright and shiny even if it's old, anything that looks sexy will attract a thief and Airstreams qualify. Cities have red light cameras and cameras up and down the highways but getting the right people to spot it is the problem. I will put a GPS tracker on my next rig, just need info on what to buy besides LoJack.
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Onstar "in a box" will be sold soon through BestBuy. Don't know the details of exactly what all features will be in the non-OEM version sold this way. Stay tuned.
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09-29-2010, 08:56 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2010
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Just curious - how often are the trailers that are stolen locked up? I am assuming, as in most cases, it doesn't matter all that much to a dedicated thief as they can cut through most locks.
But what about one of those boot devices that cities put on cars when they want to immobilize them? I know from experience that those things are nearly impossible to remove Would be a pain to lug around, but especially when parked for any length of time at home or in storage in particular I would think these would deter a thief.
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09-29-2010, 10:13 AM
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Wise Elder
2010 30' Classic
Vintage Kin Owner
South of the river
, Minnesota
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Nightwatch many posts on this, do a search.
It seems to me, from the reports here, that most trailer thefts are planned in advance with the thief arriving with tools and equipment and with a destination in mind.
I don't believe stolen trailers get parted out, because there is no ready market for used RV parts.
I believe that most of them end up being used as stationary living quarters so there is no need for title or registration.
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09-29-2010, 10:21 AM
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Registered User
1998 34' Excella 1000
1995 36' Classic 36
Spencerville
, Maryland
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Dave - just what sort of GPS/alarm system are you referring to? I'd love to have one that is solar powered and located up top so it would be out of sight to people but hopefully open to the sky for good signal.
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09-29-2010, 10:41 AM
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2016 28' Pendleton
Currently Looking...
Scottsdale
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yea, Dave, me too....
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09-29-2010, 10:54 AM
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1 Rivet Member
2018 30' Classic
Cedar Falls
, IA
Join Date: Aug 2010
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Putting GPS on your A/S is a great idea but please Mr. Park, don't put anything on the roof. Street cops can't see it and the fact of the matter is, most police departments don't have aircraft. You are just putting things against the metal that don't need to be there.
As far as GPS goes, LandAirSea make some very good units. You can find them on the internet at www.landairsea.com
Placing your VIN number on more than one spot is also a great idea but not on the windows, put it where only you know so if its stolen you can tell the Officer taking the report and he can add it to the NCIC record. That way, if a thief gets rid of the VIN he will be unlikely to find the one you've hidden and aids in recovery.
Most vehicle's (any vehicle) are stolen because they are easy targets. Making your A/S a tougher target will help. Try to store it inside and place an alarm on it that will make noise if broken into. Thiefs hate noise and light, they attract the attention they are trying to avoid.
Also, try to keep valuables out of sight when away from your A/S. A thief will look through a window and come back later when you aren't around and break into it.
Don't store your LP tanks with your A/S. A good number of thiefs want the tanks so they can make meth with them.
A little common sense goes a long way but try not to be paranoid, it takes away the fun we are trying to have with our A/S. Also remember, that no matter what you do there will be theft out there and nothing is 100%.
Shiny side up!!!
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09-29-2010, 10:55 AM
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Aluminum in 3-D
1968 28' Ambassador
Seaside
, Oregon
Join Date: Oct 2006
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From this forum I think polished Airstreams are stolen more than non-polished and many have already been pre-sold for a pool cabana etc. or shipped to a foreign buyer, my guess. I'm getting that GPS when it comes out, but I don't think I have to worry about anyone stealing a 28ft shiny trailer, not as cute as the little ones, and can't fit in a Cargo box.
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09-29-2010, 02:17 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Placerville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightwatch
Just curious - how often are the trailers that are stolen locked up? I am assuming, as in most cases, it doesn't matter all that much to a dedicated thief as they can cut through most locks.
But what about one of those boot devices that cities put on cars when they want to immobilize them? I know from experience that those things are nearly impossible to remove Would be a pain to lug around, but especially when parked for any length of time at home or in storage in particular I would think these would deter a thief.
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While driving around in England a few years back I noticed that many parked caravans (travel trailers) did indeed have those bright yellow 'boots' secured to their wheels. Even my cousin in Cornwall had one on their caravan....and it was in their yard behind a locked gate!
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09-30-2010, 07:57 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
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Note: GPS on an Airstream MUST go on the roof. The double aluminum skin blocks enough of the GPS signal to make any interior or below location unusable. Note these units require a clear, uninterrupted view of the sky - only glass and plastic are acceptable, and even then, some glass can cut the signal greatly.
The car dealers buy units that have transmitters that can return the location within 10 feet, if they can get the signal out.
http://www.northlanddealers.com/medi...2012-07-09.pdf
Informer Lite - Advanced GPS fleet Tracking Solution by RMTracking
The first one is a better plan/cost... The second one is a more advanced unit.
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09-30-2010, 08:40 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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@Dave Park: Is there anything extra offered by the "Informer Lite" that is really useful for trailer security/recovery? The Northland Tracker is WAY cheaper... $100 less up front and it includes 3 yrs of airtime. I can't tell from the PDF if the "daily auto reporting" cuts into the included "500 locates" or not, but if you can turn off the auto-reporting as long as it's within the geofenced area, it seems like $199 for 3 years of tracking is a smokin' deal.
Hopefully you'll get that Sovereign from Princeton and need the GPS tracker soon.
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09-30-2010, 08:55 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
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Indeed, I have the first one in my truck, and I just log in to a website to get locates. I won't consider keeping a trailer without one now (plus a small solar panel to maintain the battery for it). It will fit nicely inside the AC shroud.
It's basically a custom cellphone with GPS, that is accessed by text message by the company, and texts back its position. Neat gadget. The one in my truck has line of sight to the sky through the dash and is accurate to about 7-8 feet - less than the length of the truck.
I'm not hopeful on the Princeton Sovereign, but if I am lucky, I'll post very detailed pics here! And fit a tracker!
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09-30-2010, 09:46 AM
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2017 26' Flying Cloud
Alamo Heights
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So you've already purchased one of the Northland ones? Does the unit come with environmental specs? I'm thinking the inside of the AC shroud is a fairly harsh environment for electronics when the AC is in use in a Texas summer. It's the most logical hiding place... someplace a filthy scumbag ...er... thief isn't likely to look as long as the AC is working, but if the AC cooks the thing it would be counter-productive.
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09-30-2010, 11:48 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' Safari
Hyde Park Place
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I've had one in a car in central TX heat for three summers with no problems and no ventilation - it still works flawlessly. I suspect in the shroud may get very hot, but with all those slits it'll never get up to the 160-170F of the car interior...
I test it with a ping each time I change my wiper blades (about 2x/year) and I pinged it a few times when I was loaning my car to a friend to make sure he was where he said he was (to make sure he was on time - not because I didn't trust him!)
All it needs to work is 12V and a clear view of the sky.
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09-30-2010, 01:59 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Evergreen
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Jammer - honestly I have used the search function on this site, and maybe I'm using it incorrectly, but it seems to spit out a ton of irrelevant posts that don't have anything to do with my original search terms. Searching "Stolen Airstreams" pulled up the following results as an example:
Probably a better way to narrow down searches though...
Anyway, thought this link might be helpful as this seems like a great way to deter theft without going to all the lengths for a GPS hooked to a solar system with a direct hard line to the pentagon etc.
PitBull TireLock - Wheel Locks for your most demanding Parking Enforcement and Anti-Theft needs!
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