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11-04-2015, 12:43 PM
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Everyone should chill, if we disagree so what? If we get "insulted", so what?
In the end it really matters not.
Too many worthwhile conversations end with hurt feelings, IMHO of course!
Even if this conversation does not really epitomize "worthwhile", it is still fun!
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11-04-2015, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by J. Morgan
Everyone should chill, if we disagree so what? If we get "insulted", so what?
In the end it really matters not.
Too many worthwhile conversations end with hurt feelings, IMHO of course!
Even if this conversation does not really epitomize "worthwhile", it is still fun!
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I don't agree with you. You're mean. I'm going to cry now and watch Golden Girls reruns while I eat a gallon of Rocky Road.
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11-04-2015, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Panama Red
The greatest thing about this thread is that it ALMOST devolved into the thread described in post #1... almost. I have faith. Keep trying!
-Red, backing into the shadows once again...
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It's not for lack of effort. The problem is the OP stopped the loop at #17 (#17: switch mod_hat=on: close thread), and mods weren't paying attention. As a result the thread continued on without an exit point.
Several people tried to re-loop with a #14 (#14: inject comment completely unrelated to discussion at hand.) to get us back on track, but the mods just kept ignoring this thread when it got back to step #17.
So without a mod to close the thread we are doomed to keep wandering around in the darkness.
That's normally the way we do things around here.
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11-04-2015, 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Ultradog
There are many good minds that don't work for the auto industry.
Tinkerers and fabricators, machine designers, experienced welders, engineers and the like.
Many of those types are entirely capable of taking an existing design and improving on it.
Automobile manufacturers can not - for reasons of economics and profit margin - make every vehicle optimized for towing.
But tinkerers, etc can. That is what Can Am does. And they have been very successful at it.
Many of the biggest improvements in equipment design have been simple tweaks to existing machines or systems.
It's called incremental improvement and not just the auto industry is able to do it.
On the other hand, if you do not have those tinkering skills and propensities you are more likely to look negatively at other people's work and take it as an absolute that the auto manufacturer has already optimized every vehicle for every purpose and every improvement made by "non professionals"
Are inherently suspect.
Thus the dire warnings about leaving things alone and the fear of lawsuits all the time.
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You left out the possibility that someone actually was trained, knows how, and has experience, yet thinks the idea is the latest form of Kool-Aide and attempts advising against it from every possible angle.
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11-04-2015, 01:00 PM
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You left out the possibility that someone actually was trained, knows how, and has experience, yet thinks the idea is the latest form of Kool-Aide and attempts advising against it from every possible angle.
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Dogs can be trained, it takes a thinking human to innovate and overcome, to knock down walls, to do what they say can't be done!
Damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!!
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11-04-2015, 01:15 PM
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"Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win."
Sun Tzu
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11-04-2015, 01:36 PM
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"Improvise, adapt, overcome."
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11-04-2015, 02:10 PM
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"Can we get more breadsticks? And how about grating up a little more Parmesan on this salad?" - me, at Olive Garden
-Red, getting the hang of this quote thing...
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Somebody ought to clean these windows. There is a tremendous buildup of gook all over them...
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11-04-2015, 02:12 PM
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Hey diddy diddy straight up the middle
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11-04-2015, 02:30 PM
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Many who are self-taught far excel the doctors, masters, and bachelors of the most renowned universities.
-Ludwig von Mises
Brevi tempore!
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11-04-2015, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Protagonist
Dinosaurs didn't have engineers. Now they're extinct. Coincidence? I think not!
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An astute observation.
'Course, dinosaurs couldn't have had petroleum engineers 'cause it took 'em a couple million years to turn into petroleum. . .
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11-04-2015, 02:45 PM
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"Hey, Dad? Wanna have a catch?"
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11-04-2015, 03:01 PM
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uummm, what did the OP ask??? Oh shoot, what happened to my sweater, Avionstream? I'm feeling guilty.
Seriously, anybody here a therapist? Oh well, I apologize in advance. I've learned my lesson. 🙈
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11-04-2015, 03:03 PM
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Calls for reformation... and a blessing
Quote:
Originally Posted by J. Morgan
"Improvise, adapt, overcome."
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" Onwards with serenity and determination"
-Pope Francis
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11-04-2015, 03:45 PM
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Nazi's like to ruin threads.
Godwin's Law achieved. 1000000 points!
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11-04-2015, 04:05 PM
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Bold,
How does someone's opinion become a law anyway?
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11-04-2015, 04:12 PM
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One only needs to buy the right politicians silly!
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11-04-2015, 04:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim & Susan View Post
Is it JiffyPop over a campfire? That can be dangerous, you know. Too much oil in the aluminum pan from the factory. Make sure there's a Canadian Fire Brigade apparatus standing by to rush across the border for an assist.
Jim
... not to mention the stinky campfire smoke!
We don't care for campfires either.
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11-04-2015, 04:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Panama Red
"Can we get more breadsticks? And how about grating up a little more Parmesan on this salad?" - me, at Olive Garden
-Red, getting the hang of this quote thing...
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Can we get more microwave popcorn? (while I look up Godwin's law)
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11-04-2015, 04:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DoublTrouble
Bold,
How does someone's opinion become a law anyway?
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Godwin's law is not an opinion, it's more like Murphy's law.
Wikipedia defines it as:
Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Nazi analogies) is an Internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1"—that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone or something to Hitler or Nazism.
L33T
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