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Old 09-26-2007, 04:46 PM   #1
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how to deal with dutch people when you visit the netherlands

How To Deal With Dutch People

(1) Many foreigners call everything Dutch…well…'Dutch'. Don't! The word Dutch reminds Dutch people of the word Duits which is used for Germans and other things he dislikes. A Dutch person is a Hollander or a Nederlander.

(2) As a foreigner, don't ever try to speak Dutch. Not only will you get an enormous headache but the Hollanders will not understand what you mean. Foreigners are supposed to speak English or Gibberish. In the latter case they will be an easy target for pickpockets since they will not be able to talk to the police.

(3) Don't ever try to eat 'drop'. (Dutch Licorice) Drop is a sort of candy that can only be eaten by Hollanders. It can be recognized by the colour: black. The taste is a blend between earwax and paint (black). Hollanders absolutely adore the stuff and eat many kilo's of it. There is a nationwide conspiracy to look at the faces of foreigners that were made to believe the stuff is actually edible.

(4) Don't buy wooden shoes. They will look completely ridiculous. Which is the reason they will try to sell them to you. A Hollander himself would not want to be found dead wearing them.(Preferably a Hollander doesn't want to be found dead at all).

(5) Don't make holes in the dikes. Such behaviour is commonly disapproved and in extreme cases it can get you stoned by wooden shoes. But feel free to put your finger in the dike if you feel the urge. It will at least get you a few laughs from the natives.

(6) A Hollander is always right and he knows it. With this in mind it is very easy to cope with most Hollanders. If you ever get in an argument with a Hollander, tell him he was absolutely right and that you now realize how wrong you were. Now he will go crazy: Since you're a foreigner, you can never be right. You agree with him, therefore he couldn't be right. Impossible. He's a Hollander. But…then…he…Now is the time to take a step back and observe how the Hollander will try to strangle himself with a tulip.

(7) Mills are inevitable.

(8)It is not necessary to fake interest for tulips, mills, wooden shoes or cheese. Every Hollander knows you came for the soft drugs and the Amsterdam red-light district. Both are widely spread and easy to find. Just ask any Hollander over age 6 or a French tourist. (See points 19 and 20)

(9) Avoid soccer fans at all times. Soccer in Holland is just an excuse to crush the skulls of practically everybody else, including yours. This mainly takes place when the game is lost…or tied…or won. It is extremely foolish to stand next to a cop during these festivities (see point 10) Also remember never to mention the 1974 cup finals near a Hollander. He will instantly pull you into a long-lasting litany about how good 'Orange' played then and how good…blablablabla…

(10)Cops in Holland are mainly used to throw stuff at. If you get the uncontrollable desire to hit someone, take on a cop. No Hollander will pay any attention if you hit a cop, put a knife in his cranium or firmly kick him in the butt. Cops represent authority and not one Hollander recognizes a higher authority then himself. You will notice the fact that most cops are actually foreigners that were lured into this job.

(11)Hollanders do not like spending money. They would rather cut of an ear. A Hollander will be your friend for life if you give him something for free. This might explain the great success of McDonalds in Holland. The story that copper wire is an invention of two Hollanders fighting over a found cent is absolutely true.

(12)Holland is small. It is sometimes rumoured that Holland is so small they take it inside when it's raining. This is not true because it rains 365 days a year. This also explains the wooden shoes: they float. Yes…Holland is small and Hollanders are very proud of it. They will use any opportunity to say that Holland accomplished such great things for such a small country. A fitting answer would be to refer to it's colonial past. Which brings us to point 13.

(13)If you want to insult a Hollander - and sooner or later you will want to - tell him you don't think he's a pacifist. Now start running for your life. He will not stop trying to prove he's the most peace-loving person in the world until your intestines are on the street. As mentioned earlier, mentioning the so-called colonial past in Suriname or Indonesia, will instantly reduce the Hollander to a sniffling child, begging for forgiveness.

(14)Hollanders are supposed to be tolerant. Nonsense. They just make too much money selling drugs and Malaysian women, to miss the opportunity to make so much profit.

(15)The most important way of public transportation in Holland is the bicycle. Feel free to take any bike of which you can pick the lock. Just don't expect your own bike to be in the same spot where you parked it 3 minutes earlier. Hunting season for bikes is open 365 days a year. Good luck!

(16)At almost every bread meal in Holland you will find a mean looking big knife with a sharp slide in it. It is called a 'kaasschaaf' and is used to cut very thin slices of cheese (Yes, it's a Dutch invention). Never cut cheese with a regular knife, you will make yourself completely ridiculous. Another typical eating tool is the so-called bottlescraper. Beware, don't use it for that annoying itch on your back. It's designed to scrape the last bits of yoghurt or mayonnaise out of the bottle. A Hollander will use every millimeter of the product he bought. He paid for it, he'll eat it, no matter what.

(17)At the time this was written, the Dutch economy was doing pretty good. Hollanders maintain the idea that this is the result of intensive negotiations between different parties like unions, employers and politicians. They even have a name for it: the poldermodel. One likes to convince foreigners this poldermodel is the key to a successful economy and if those same foreigners would be smart enough to follow their example, their economy would be flourishing as well. This is a load of crap. Hollanders just like to talk, talk, talk. By calling all this chattering negotiating they give themselves the impression they're doing something useful. Talk is never cheap in Holland.

(18)Hollanders drown fried patato-sticks (Chips) in litres of mayonnaise and put it in a pointed paper bag. This is called : Een patatje met. One such bag is able to keep you alive for an unlimited period of time. It is only uncertain if this is a life worth living. But there have been sightings of tourists actually enjoying a patatje met.

(19)Holland has a unique service for -mainly- France tourist. At the moment they pass the border, they are enthusiastically welcomed by youngsters in fast cars. These youngsters have the explicit wish to show these tourists the way to the many interesting tourist-attractions Holland has to offer. Strangly, they always end up in a coffee-shop or drug house though. (see point 20) Weird people, the French.

(20)There is a fast and foolproof way of embarrassing yourself in Holland.Enter a coffeeshop and ask for a cappuccino with a biscuit. Coffeeshops -remember this- do not sell coffee. They do however have a large variety of stimulating products at reasonable prices. For unknown reasons, coffeeshops are very popular amongst young French tourists.

(21)A 'Fries' is a sort of super-Hollander that lives in the north in a province all for themselves. They love frozen water, Beerenburg (a form of euthanasia with alcohol) and endlessly pointing out that other Hollanders are not Fries. The rest of Holland looks at this behaviour the same way parents will look at an obstinate child.

(22)When it comes to what books to bring to Holland, I would advise the following:The complete works of William Shakespeare or a leather-bound part of the Encyclopaedia Brittanica (part Fr to He of the 1913 edition). Both books have about the proper weight to keep a pushy pimp or dealer away from you with a well aimed swing. After this I would advice you to drop the book since this greatly improves your speed during your getaway. Make sure you bring enough books.

(23)Don't bother renting a car. Not only will you be able to steal more bikes then you can use but car traffic in Holland is not something to enjoy. Where the rest of the world uses kilometres to express the lengths of traffic jams, in Holland these are measured in weeks. To be honest, the most steadfast ones are worth a visit. The sight of starving people in an expensive Mercedes can greatly improve your mood if your somewhat philosophical. Bring some pieces of bread to throw through the open windows. The fights over them are often very spectacular.

(24)In contradiction of many rumours, it is not legal to bring your mother in law to Holland for do-it-yourself euthanasia. Tourists are warned not to take matters into their own hands.

(25)Whether you're catholic, Muslim or worshipper of Urrrgl the god of all Honest politicians, in Holland it will be easy to find a church, temple or oak tree of your liking. Hollanders are supposed to be very tolerant to other religions and believes. This is not true. The only reason Holland has so much churches, sects or cults is the fact they have a difference in opinion about everything. A Hollander is always right (see point 6) and everyone that does not agree can beat it and start his own church.

(26)Holland is a kingdom.It just doesn't have a king but a queen and her husband is not king but a prince. The queen does not rule -much- but she's very capable in cutting ribbons and visiting other countries. She is also very decorative at state banquettes. Her son, the crown prince, will take over if she stops queening. His wife in turn will be queen so that Holland will finally have a king and queen again.April 30 is queensday but it is not the birthday of the queen but princes Juliana's, who used to be queen. With things like this it's only logical that more and more people want Holland to be a republic. Queensday, by the way, is just an excuse to drink lots of beer and sell all their old junk on the streets.

(27)It would be wise to learn how to swim before you come to Holland.No, the dikes will hold, that's not the problem, but the large amount of lakes, streams, rivers canals and creaks could lead to painful mistakes. That shiny new strip of asphalt you're turning on to with your car during rain might not be an asphalt road at all.

(28)Dutch painting.Dutch painters get famous after they die. This is a very sensible rule from the buyers point of view. Not only will the artist have to make a lot of paintings to earn a living, it also produces some very nice investments. The painters however do not share this opinion and in at least one case this lead to selfmutalation of an ear.

(29)If one of your Dutch friends invites you for a birthday, prepare for a unique experience. Unique in the way that you can only compare it to taking a seat in a wooden chair with a sharp nail driven trough the seat and afterwards not being able to move for a month. More then one foreigner has been driven to the brink of madness by attending a Dutch birthday. The regular Dutch birthday party consists mainly of sitting still and talking to others about your job, your car, politics and foreigners. You are expected to leave somewhere about 23:00 and you will be grateful you can.

(30)Holland has more cities then Amsterdam.There is…eh…and…Well, there are more cities.

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Old 09-26-2007, 05:01 PM   #2
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Good post.

You're right.You're absolutely right.

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Old 11-06-2007, 01:32 PM   #3
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Indeed Mr. Lent

We also have 's-Hertogenbosch and don't forget Hollanders don't like US axles on trailers!
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:51 PM   #4
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Wow! This post makes me glad that the only foreign country I anticipate visiting is Canada. Canadians are generally easy going and one of the foreign populations that usderstand us and still like us.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:08 PM   #5
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Wow! This post makes me glad that the only foreign country I anticipate visiting is Canada. Canadians are generally easy going and one of the foreign populations that usderstand us and still like us.
I lived in Canada for 3 years and did find places that people were not happy to meet Americans. Imagine that :-) I suppose it could be the result of our being from Texas. Although we did not live up to it, Texans seem to have a worldwide reputation. Seems a little like Holland, in ways.
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:15 PM   #6
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That explains it....

Now I know why my dear Aunt divorced my Uncle Kees.....
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:18 PM   #7
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What About the BEER?

When we visited the Low Countries (fairly often, to use the Hook), we would stop for a Rice Table (what a misnomer that is), washed down with Amsdel.
Great residual taste, and the effects begin to wear off after a couple days of eating English food.
Great post!
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:35 PM   #8
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That was a very humorous post, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Remember the top dog is always disliked by the rest of the dogs. If Canada became the top dog (I know, I know) then they would suddenly find themselves with a rather unsavory reputation by the rest of the dog packs. It's human nature for the most part to dislike those on the top of the heap.
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Old 11-06-2007, 07:05 PM   #9
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Thanks for all the info on the Netherlands! My grandparents immigrated from the dreaded "Fries". Yes, we still know everything, even though we're in the States! But, no, we don't mind being called Dutch. You know, if you're not Dutch, you're not much!
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What exactly are you trying to say?
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Cool Nederlanders

I had the good fortune of living in The Netherlands for five years in the mid 80's. The people were great, fresh Heinken was fantastic, and the summers were mostly nonexistant. I have been back several times since then and all remains true.

My favorite answer as to why I never learned to speak Dutch was, whats the point, there are more lepers in the world then Nederlanders.

OK, that was probably not funny, but really when ever I got the courage to try my language skills, the Dutch listener always, came back quickly in English. They simply spoke English well enough, and were not willing to struggle trying to understand my tortured attempts at speaking their language.

By the way our donuts orginated in The Netherlands, and they still eat, mostly when the weather is cold, "olie ballens" (my spelling - probably incorrect), a round, deep fried pastry that is served hot after being rolled in sugar.
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you made me hungry! says:
Oliebollen (pronunciation (help·info)) (literally oil balls), (also called smoutebollen by some people in Belgium), are a traditional Dutch food. They are traditionally eaten on New Year's Eve and at funfairs.
These "donuts" are made by using two spoons to scoop a certain amount of dough and dropping the dough into a deep fryer filled with hot oil. This way, a sphere-shaped "oliebol" emerges.
The dough is made from flour, eggs, yeast, some salt, milk and optionally some sultanas or currants and sometimes apple pieces. The dough needs time to rise for at least an hour. Oliebollen are usually served with powdered sugar.
They are said to have been first eaten by Germanic tribes in the Netherlands during the Yule, the period between December 26 and January 6. The Germanic goddess Perchta, together with evil spirits, would fly through the mid-winter sky. To appease these spirits, food was offered, much of which contained deep-fried dough. It was said Perchta would try to cut open the bellies of all she same across, but because of the fat in the oliebollen, her sword would slide off the body of whoever ate them
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Thumbs up More Food in NL

Their pancakes called "pankokken" (once again my spelling is no incorrect) are pretty darn good. Some restaurants that specialize in them have hundreds of different kinds.

Pankokken are heavier then our's, and have a rich chewy texture. Some are fried with apples, or bacon, and they are delicious.

And they are huge. Larger than any pancakes I have seen in the US.

Its not that the Dutch have a large sophisticated cusine, like their Belgium neighbors, but they have borrowed from the parts of the world where they had colonies. Indonsia contributed mightly to Dutch cusine.

Talking about this brings back lots of great memories. If I could I would pull my AS there today.

By the way I don't remember ever being told that calling a Nederlander "Dutch" was somehow wrong.
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Thumbs up Another Dutch Food Story

We lived in a small city named Uithoorn, just east of Schiphol airport, and to the west of the Amstel river. We often drove to have dinner at a small restaurant that specialized in BBQ beef ribs, that was located right on the banks of the Amstel.

They were fantastic, but like most bbq ribs they had to be picked up with your fingers. The thing is that many, if not most Nederlanders do not eat anything with their fingers. You would often see them eating sandwiches with a knife and fork.

I do not mean to suggest that this is bad, but eating a hamburger with a knife and fork, unusual to see - for an American.

When I invited coworkers to the place, and they saw me picking up the ribs with my fingers, they quickly got into the experience and likewise used their fingers.

Good friends, good food, great beer, what could be better. OK,OK, if our AS was nearby - that would be better.
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Their pancakes called "pankokken" (once again my spelling is no incorrect) are pretty darn good. Some restaurants that specialize in them have hundreds of different kinds.
Hey SRW - are you hungry???

Three posts about great food - now I'm hungry too....
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Hey SRW - are you hungry???

Three posts about great food - now I'm hungry too....
Not always, but I do enjoy good food. I don't mean "fancy" stuff, just good cooking.

I had a goal, once, to visit every classic diner in the NE. Too many, but enjoyed it while eating and listening.

Road food remains my passion, and of course donuts, and ........... .

Say, I am kind of new to this FORUM, if I am doing too many just let me know.
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Tightwad Dutchmen, pannekoeken en oliebollen - what's this forum about Airstreams coming to?

Remcolent's list is a good one. It's an unusual country, to be sure, but a beautiful place to visit. And you only need to learn one Dutch (sorry, make that Netherlandic) phrase - "Spreekt u het engels?" Literally, that's "speak you the English?" You will get an affirmative reply at least 90% of the time!
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I prefer:

Ik spreek het geen Nederlands.

which means:

I don't speak Dutch.

Maybe not a literal translation, but that's what it means.

There is a post by a Dutchman that had his AS shipped home.
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I found it was better to be ignorant, (not hard at all) and say "I'm an American. Do you speak English?" no matter what country I was in. Seldom failed, except in the Czeck Republc. German worked better there.
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