Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-19-2020, 04:37 PM   #1
4 Rivet Member
 
2017 30' International
Lincolnwood , Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 280
Folding E-bikes for travel . Which one and why ?

Going to be purchasing an E-Bike for this season of travel.
I was wondering which bikes fellow Airstreamers have and why they chose a particular bike.
__________________

Milo1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 05:06 PM   #2
3 Rivet Member
 
Dave-n-Janet's Avatar
 
2017 26' Flying Cloud
Moss Point , Mississippi
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 139
I got my wife a LunaCycle.com e-bike. Mid-drive built on a 20" folding Mossomo frame. Has a 52v 305w battery. I've ridden on flat, paved rail-to-trail 40 miles on a charge staying in power level 1 (of 9). My wife didn't like the 20" wheels so got herself a Specialized regular size e-bike at almost double the cost, so I took over hers. I willingly gave up my old manual hybrid bike. I love riding the e-bike! Main reason for the LunaCycle was the weight is around 37 lbs w/battery so I can readily lift it onto the tailgate of my F250 and it fits easily under tonneau cover. On the level it maintains 12-14mph in level 1. Has 9 speed rear derailleur. It also has a throttle, so is a class 2 e-bike, although I'm not sure that really matters much as the 20" wheels make it look a bit like a toy. Practical max speed is about 22mph. It is very agile. The last 4 days here at Kissimmee Prairie Preserve I've ridden it roughly 50 miles over unpaved, sandy to damp to wet to hog-dug up to weed covered trails and really abused it. So far so good. I have over 400 miles on it so far.
__________________

Dave-n-Janet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 06:11 PM   #3
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
Trek dual sport+. Part mountain bike, part urban cruiser. Mid drive, 10 speed powertrain, 4 electric assist modes, shimano electrics. Trek has now commonized to Bosch, but both are premier systems.
What ever you do, if you plan to use multi use trails, get a class 1 (pedal assist only)
NPS has already ruled on this. Class one is a bicycle. Class 2 and 3 are motorized vehicles and use is limited to roads (basically motorcycle rules). It is theorized that NPS will be the model for other fed, state and local use restrictions.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 06:22 PM   #4
Rivet Master
 
waninae39's Avatar

 
2017 22' Sport
NCR , Ontario
Join Date: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,824
we love our TRENVektron S10 folding bikes
https://www.ternbicycles.com/ca/bikes/472/vektron-s10

dont buy a cheap bikes.
waninae39 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 06:23 PM   #5
1 Rivet Member

 
1998 25' Safari
Willard , MO
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 6
Go Power express. Seemed to us to have the best features for the money.
Jswill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 06:43 PM   #6
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by waninae39 View Post
we love our TRENVektron S10 folding bikes
https://www.ternbicycles.com/ca/bikes/472/vektron-s10

dont buy a cheap bikes.
Yes, you get what's you pays for. Do your research. Or more accurately, you dont get what you dont pay for. Dig deep....who makes the battery for example. Samsung? Panasonic? Great. Knockoffs = not good.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 06:53 PM   #7
CLOUDSPLITTER "Tahawus"
 
ROBERT CROSS's Avatar

 
2003 25' Classic
Zanadude Nebula , Milky Way
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 14,507
Images: 1
What works for...never mind.
5k teehee
TETO
Bob
🇺🇸
__________________
"Any nation that can survive what we have lately in the way of government, is on the high road to permanent glory."Molly Ivins
“Growing Old…being able to think about the things you can no longer remember.” RLC
"Never tow faster than your Guardian Angel can Fly"
Tahawus....🌥
ROBERT CROSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 07:00 PM   #8
Rivet Master
 
jeffmc306's Avatar
 
2019 27' Globetrotter
McHenry , Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2018
Posts: 723
Blog Entries: 4
Milo1952, great advice so far from the other posters.

Here's a site with current reviews of folding e-bikes: https://electricbikereview.com/category/folding/

There are several manufacturers that are going direct to customers, bypassing the middle man. Rad Power is one of them. They have two folding models, guys and gals.

Another from California is E-Glide
Let us know what you end up with!
__________________
2019 27’ Globetrotter FBT Walnut/Dublin Slate
2018 FC23FB
2019 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi Laramie Blue Ox 1500#
WBCCI# 10258
April 3, 2020 Retirement Plan
jeffmc306 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 07:33 PM   #9
4 Rivet Member
 
2017 30' International
Lincolnwood , Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 280
I think you are mistaken. The NPS policy is "Devices with electric motors of 750 watts (1hp) or more of power and Not Included in class 1, class 2, or class 3 should be managed as motor vehicles. )
No where does it state that only class 1 bikes are able to use the trails.
Milo1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 07:34 PM   #10
4 Rivet Member
 
2017 30' International
Lincolnwood , Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 280
I am leaning towards Rad mini, right now.
Milo1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:01 PM   #11
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Milo1952 View Post
I think you are mistaken. The NPS policy is "Devices with electric motors of 750 watts (1hp) or more of power and Not Included in class 1, class 2, or class 3 should be managed as motor vehicles. )
No where does it state that only class 1 bikes are able to use the trails.
Maybe, there is a lot of confusion surrounding this issue. The 750 watts issue refers to mountain bike trails. I am talking about multi use trails, which I believe most of us here use. There are environmentalist lawsuits covering a variety of convoluted issues, but they most oppose the 750 watt trail Thrashers. Those bikes are awesome pieces of machinery for $12k...some less some more. But that's not the arena I am talking about. Class 2 has a throttle and is considered a motor vehicle by NPS. Class 3 has no throttle but has assist up to 28mph. They are foggy on that class. I suggest class 1 is most suited to my style of rv travel and road/trail use. I am most comfortable that it will continue to be looked upon favorably by all jurisdictions when the uncertainty becomes more clear. I wonder, why most of us here need more than class 1. Heck I rarely use more than eco mode, which is 50% pedal assist on my units.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:04 PM   #12
1 Rivet Member
 
North Royalton , Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 19
Got the Rad-Mini Step-Thru for the wife and the Rad-Mini for myself last October. Both folding bikes and fat tires. Great quality so far as well as their customer service if you have questions about some of its functionalities.
Fun to ride on flat, hills and rough terrain even on snow. Quite heavy though, 65 lbs. each. Take the battery out so it’s 8 lbs less for transporting on bike carriers. I just put mine on on the truck bed of my F-350 with some soft padding. Top speed 20 mph, but recently tweaked it to 25mph after seeing a YouTube video on how to do it.
Just do it, no regrets!!!
Melucy2airs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:07 PM   #13
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
On the subject of assist. You should ride whatever you are considering before purchase. The trick to a seamless power application is 3 sensors. Pedal cadence, road speed and torque input by the rider. When done right by the manufacturer, it should feel like riding a bike, but easier, without "dropouts" or irregular rhythm. It is an awful lot like driving a manual transmission car, balancing assist level with conventional derailleur drivetrain.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:14 PM   #14
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melucy2airs View Post
Got the Rad-Mini Step-Thru for the wife and the Rad-Mini for myself last October. Both folding bikes and fat tires. Great quality so far as well as their customer service if you have questions about some of its functionalities.
Fun to ride on flat, hills and rough terrain even on snow. Quite heavy though, 65 lbs. each. Take the battery out so it’s 8 lbs less for transporting on bike carriers. I just put mine on on the truck bed of my F-350 with some soft padding. Top speed 20 mph, but recently tweaked it to 25mph after seeing a YouTube video on how to do it.
Just do it, no regrets!!!
Can I ask you an honest question? I've read about hacks to lift the 20mph limit on my bike....but how often do you go over 20 mph? Downhill, sure, but you dont need assis then anyway. Even in top gear, on level ground, my sustainable cadence is at about 15-17 mph. I decided no hack was necessary....and maybe not mechanically prudent.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:25 PM   #15
1 Rivet Member
 
North Royalton , Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 19
I ride 15-20 mph on the average on asphalt bike trails on our MetroParks when its dry but last night when the temperature dropped to 28 degrees C (40 when I started an hour ago) and it got dark quickly, I realized I could use a faster speed than 20mph. Love the LED lights of the Rad bikes. 42 mile range on flat terrain, 21 miles when doing hills and using a lot of throttling.
I carry my wife’s battery if doing longer rides. Tried the 25 mph max speed 30 mins ago in the neighborhood, loved it, also used an LED headlight for safety. Bike safe!
Melucy2airs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:38 PM   #16
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melucy2airs View Post
I ride 15-20 mph on the average on asphalt bike trails on our MetroParks when its dry but last night when the temperature dropped to 28 degrees C (40 when I started an hour ago) and it got dark quickly, I realized I could use a faster speed than 20mph. Love the LED lights of the Rad bikes. 42 mile range on flat terrain, 21 miles when doing hills and using a lot of throttling.
I carry my wife’s battery if doing longer rides. Tried the 25 mph max speed 30 mins ago in the neighborhood, loved it, also used an LED headlight for safety. Bike safe!
Sure, I can hit those speeds for bursts too, thus my sustainable comment. Are you really going maintain that cadence/torque for extended periods of flat travel? Heck, I dont know you....maybe you're 22 years old and a velodrome sprinter, but I doubt your stock bike is geared for a normal human being to sustain this speeds for cruising. I am just asking for reality and reasonableness in the decision points and what is really important given the uncertainty of the afore mentioned potential regulations.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 08:56 PM   #17
1 Rivet Member
 
North Royalton , Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2019
Posts: 19
I’m only here to give my suggestion to Milo1952 regarding ebike purchase, not to argue about my bike speed of 15,20, or what not dzfOg. Today is a beautiful day brother!
Melucy2airs is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2020, 09:11 PM   #18
Rivet Master
 
dznf0g's Avatar
 
2007 30' Classic
Oswego , Illinois
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 10,465
Images: 5
Quote:
Originally Posted by Melucy2airs View Post
I’m only here to give my suggestion to Milo1952 regarding ebike purchase, not to argue about my bike speed of 15,20, or what not dzfOg. Today is a beautiful day brother!
Me too. No disagreements here, just trying to focus on practicality and making decisions on primarily how e bikes are used for rv accessories....and the clientele of this particular forum. There are other e bike forums for the "gearheads" and my conversation would be different there. OP is preparing to shell out some substantial bucks and value for intended purpose is important. Heck I want a Corvette, and could afford one, but I have no practical use for it's full potential. That's all I'm saying.
__________________
-Rich-

"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy." - Red Green
dznf0g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2020, 11:45 AM   #19
4 Rivet Member
 
2017 30' International
Lincolnwood , Illinois
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 280
bikes

Checked out the e-glide, Underpowered and not enough info on website to make an informed decision.
Milo1952 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2020, 12:10 PM   #20
Rivet Master
 
lsbrodsky's Avatar

 
2012 25' FB International
Trent Woods , North Carolina
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 2,466
I like my Evelo Quest Max...I think it has the best combo of features.

Larry
__________________

lsbrodsky is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Folding Bikes Phoenix Off Topic Forum 40 08-22-2019 09:21 AM
E Bikes X2 Bikes On Top Of Truck Bed mythbuster88 On The Road... 13 08-01-2019 07:42 AM
Folding bikes Sjcjr Airstream Lifestyle 53 04-01-2016 09:22 PM
Folding bikes MJBear Off Topic Forum 74 01-03-2014 01:14 PM
Folding Bikes TROPHYJIM2 Off Topic Forum 22 06-06-2008 10:37 AM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.