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02-26-2011, 06:32 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
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Couple of nagging questions..
1) Winterizing. If you drain all of the water from the system, why would you fill it up with anti-freeze? What then are you preventing from freezing if there is no water?
2) Vent stacks. No tops on them. Water falls right in. Inside the vent stack there is a rubber seal thing that the pipe fits up into. Where does the water go that falls into the vent stack?
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02-26-2011, 06:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
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1) The water pump if nothing else. Some people just blow all the water out with compressed air and do not add antifreeze. I did that one winter. Replaced the water pump the next spring as the seals dried out. So, I fill with antifreeze faithfully now.
2) Water falling into the vent stacks will end up in the gray and black water tanks. Not much rain water really gets in that way.
The rubber seal around the vent pipe keeps water out of the wall. According to several people on the forums, the rubber needs to be replaced every few years.
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02-26-2011, 07:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1999 28' Excella
Frederick
, Maryland
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I also understand that even if you blow out the lines, small amounts of water can remain in the faucet valves and possibly cause problems. I blow it out and then pump in antifreeze. I know, it's likely not necessary to blow out the lines if you are using antifreeze, oh well, I'm a guy and I like to do things like that! As to antifreeze to me, it's just cheap insurance.
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02-26-2011, 08:23 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielB
1) Winterizing. If you drain all of the water from the system, why would you fill it up with anti-freeze? What then are you preventing from freezing if there is no water?
2) Vent stacks. No tops on them. Water falls right in. Inside the vent stack there is a rubber seal thing that the pipe fits up into. Where does the water go that falls into the vent stack?
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The water that surrounds the sewer vent pipe, within the vent pipe cover, runs out thru the built in holes, in the bottom side of the cover.
Andy
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02-26-2011, 08:26 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
Corona
, California
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 16,497
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielB
1) Winterizing. If you drain all of the water from the system, why would you fill it up with anti-freeze? What then are you preventing from freezing if there is no water?
2) Vent stacks. No tops on them. Water falls right in. Inside the vent stack there is a rubber seal thing that the pipe fits up into. Where does the water go that falls into the vent stack?
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Draining the water, is being "hopeful" that you don't get a freeze up.
Adding antifreeze, provides a "guarantee" that you won't get a freeze up.
Cheapest insurance you could ever invest in.
Andy
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02-26-2011, 09:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Excella 500
Charleston
, South Carolina
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Inland RV Center, In
The water that surrounds the sewer vent pipe, within the vent pipe cover, runs out thru the built in holes, in the bottom side of the cover.
Andy
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Ah! Didn't notice those (if in fact they are really there.. as you say)
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02-26-2011, 10:36 PM
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1965 22' Safari
Gerlach
, Nevada
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Like others have said here. You can't be too safe.. I say spend the 10-15 bucks on the pink stuff, and make sure to run it through all your lines and drains. Well worth the cheap investment. In the spring you can reclaim some of it, and re-use it if you wan to save a buck. We winterize houses here all the time, and have to use more for those lines as they are bigger, etc. But still... If you miss blowing a line out, or water settles somewhere and freezes..... Not fun having to fix split lines. I've done it, it's no fun.
C.
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02-26-2011, 10:41 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 20' International
Shasta Lake City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 1,113
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Just remimber to check that serwer pipe vent 356 days a year... good way to get a work out;0
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02-26-2011, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Crabtree
Just remimber to check that serwer pipe vent 356 days a year... good way to get a work out;0
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Rex which of the nine days of the year do you suggest not checking the vents?
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02-26-2011, 11:52 PM
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Rivet Master
1981 20' International
Shasta Lake City
, California
Join Date: Sep 2010
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What I was trying to get across. That the rubber casket will leak. They dry up and the pipe will slip down and water will cause damage to your plywood floor. So, get up there and check you sewer pipes! Hope your project is going well Mr. Was....
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02-27-2011, 05:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rex Crabtree
What I was trying to get across. That the rubber casket will leak. They dry up and the pipe will slip down and water will cause damage to your plywood floor. So, get up there and check you sewer pipes! Hope your project is going well Mr. Was....
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Rex I can't help but laugh. First a typo shortened the year from 365 days to 356. Now you're talking about the rubber casket that will leak. Who gets buried in a rubber casket anyways. When they drop you in the hole you'd bounce right back out.
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02-27-2011, 05:51 AM
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Rivet Master
2014 25' Flying Cloud
Cuddebackville
, New York
Join Date: May 2007
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When I read the title I thought the questions would be:
1) When are you going to take the garbage out?
2) Have you taken the garbage out yet?
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02-27-2011, 06:09 AM
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LOL. or
1) When are you going to get all the trailer parts out of the house?
2) When are you going to get rid of that junk piece of aluminium off the driveway?
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02-27-2011, 10:10 AM
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Rivet Master
1972 31' Sovereign
Lexington
, Minnesota
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 3,991
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wasagachris
Rex which of the nine days of the year do you suggest not checking the vents?
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National Holidays are probably good days to skip the checking.
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