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Old 02-07-2016, 08:06 AM   #1741
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Thanks, Bud.

When we are walking and pass other dogs, I pull her up short and keep her away, which works. I also tell other owners...who want to let their dogs say "Hi"...not to.

Most of the time, if I take her off her leash for a moment, the dogs acknowledge each other quickly and there is no aggression. That didn't happen yesterday....I thought she would be better if I unleashed her for a second, but she was worse.

There was something in that dog, who seemed perfectly friendly and innocuous to me, that she reacted to, I think. Anyway....it was ugly for a minute.

The rain has slowed to a drip, so we are going for our first walk today....she has not been out in 14 hours.


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Old 02-07-2016, 08:52 AM   #1742
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Thanks, Bud.

When we are walking and pass other dogs, I pull her up short and keep her away, which works. I also tell other owners...who want to let their dogs say "Hi"...not to.

Most of the time, if I take her off her leash for a moment, the dogs acknowledge each other quickly and there is no aggression. That didn't happen yesterday....I thought she would be better if I unleashed her for a second, but she was worse.

There was something in that dog, who seemed perfectly friendly and innocuous to me, that she reacted to, I think. Anyway....it was ugly for a minute.

The rain has slowed to a drip, so we are going for our first walk today....she has not been out in 14 hours.


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Our daughter has a Yorkie/Silky Terrier who loves our younger dog Abby, they play when together. I introduced him to our 4.5 year old adopted dog and he immediately bit her, hard. She did not react as I suspected she would not, she was depending on me to protect her and I failed. Sometimes, dogs simply do not like another dog - we may never understand or know why. I suggest keep her on lead, collar or slip leash up around her ears as this is where 'Mom" used to grab her and correct her, and the memory is still there. When she gives any hint of aggression, as I said a slight tug to the side, either side, not back and let it loose a little again. By holding her tight, when approaching another dog your energy and concern passes down the leash and amps her up. As often as possible loose lead, does not have to be long, just not tight.

My dogs do not meet any strange dogs, period. I don't know the other dog or owner, I don't know if the dog has all it's shots etc and the new flu going around is not a good one. So, we do not go to dog parks, we go for 4 mile walks, we train (every day) and we now visit nursing homes, schools and most recently Hospice, now that they are both Therapy Dogs International Certified. These visits are great for control, management and mental stimulation. Tomorrow we start visits to a Veteran Center for PTSD, my real focus with them.

Don't be discouraged, one who adopts never knows what went on before, dogs suffer all degrees of PTSD just like people. It does not have to be war or police related. It can be as simple as being abandoned by previous owner.

Dogs do not have to meet or play with other dogs to be happy and satisfied, just being with the right human(s) is enough.

I apologize again for going on, but in retirement this has become a passion I've always wanted to fulfill. Now off to a church (we are not members of) who wanted to meet some Therapy Dogs and see what they are all about. Then to a Hospice again.

Be Well, give Lily a hug - it's important for owners and dogs.

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Old 02-07-2016, 09:07 AM   #1743
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I appreciate your information, Bud.

Lily has never sunk her teeth into dog or human, while I have had her.....but she is fierce looking, and once got bit herself by a dog who had had quite enough, and I think she needed that.

If I didn't hold her tight when leashed and passing another dog, she would lunge for them, snapping and snarling and showing those teeth.

She is worst on her leash, and, as important as it is that she please me, just doesn't seem able to manage that urge.

Just when I feel I have her figured out....I don't.

I perhaps need some time with a dog whisperer....maybe can trade you a couple of handmade pot holders....very nice ones, if I do say so....for a few moments training when I see you this summer.

Hmm? What are your wife's kitchen color preferences?


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I help friends for free, no charge EVER. Does Lily like treats or chicken. One method I taught my wife with a very dog aggressive rescue we had was to use treats to distract. BUT, first do it with no one or no distractions. Just get her to look into your eyes, when you say look or here something you can use every time. Then when she does, a treat. Do this over and over many, many times. Once it's instantaneous then move it outside or distance distractions, over and over gradually closing distance over a period of time. Also, while doing this simply say Lily LOOK while walking, when she does a treat. Gradually her attention will move to you rather than what she fears, being attacked first. What it sounds like is "fear" aggression, I have to attack before I am attacked and it's all done between dogs at distance and very subtle, eye contact is the worst, which is why one tries to distract the dogs eyes to the handler instead of anything else. Give that a try and if not we can move on to other things.

Alice likes yellows and bright happy colors, unlike me she is an optimistic happy person, I'm a realist.

Let me know, almost all dogs go for chicken.

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Old 02-07-2016, 01:55 PM   #1745
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Those are great tips, Bud....she maybe has dog PTSD.

She came to us...was found, actually...with some small scars on her muzzle, which looked like bite marks. They were scars, not fresh, and she was 8-9 months old, by the Vet's estimation.

She does seem clearly intent on intimidation, as she doesn't try to hurt other dogs. Dogs seem to "get" her, too...it's their owners she scares.

Some owners, anyway. I have come across many dog owners not the least put off by what she does, which they seem to understand and just attribute to "dog stuff", as I call it.

I see lots of dogs doing what she does, especially those little yippy ones, but I suspect Lily's black color and big teeth are part of the perception problem.

Easier for me to carry a few tiny treats than chicken....I'll let you know how it works.

Also, I give crocheted things away to friends and acquaintances for free, too.


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Also a new and growing trend is to tie a yellow ribbon around her leash, for those who area aware this means not to approach to ask the handler/owner first.

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I am thoroughly enjoying the conversation about dogs. We have a Lili clone called Chloe....black, rescue, alpha female, stubborn, and not the best around other dogs. In addition she is an instigator, encouraging our other dog to get into it with visiting dogs...then she walks away!
At a recent Airstream rally I was in awe of how manageable other dogs were, but I fear we started too late with them.
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I am thoroughly enjoying the conversation about dogs. We have a Lili clone called Chloe....black, rescue, alpha female, stubborn, and not the best around other dogs. In addition she is an instigator, encouraging our other dog to get into it with visiting dogs...then she walks away!
At a recent Airstream rally I was in awe of how manageable other dogs were, but I fear we started too late with them.
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Its never too late, might take a little longer but "old dogs can learn new tricks" and certainly can learn new behaviors. It's what I do as a trainer and volunteer rehabilitator of dogs previously used as fighting dogs or bait dogs in the training of fighting dogs. We can get about 95% of them adoptable (to the right person and family). PM if you have any questions.

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Old 02-08-2016, 12:03 PM   #1749
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Ran some errands in town this morning, leaving my new canisters in place on the wall....they didn't budge. . Pleased am I.

I inadvertently left home last month without enough soy candles to get me thru this trip....so I picked up what I needed at Hobby Lobby and am going to make new ones in the containers I have.

I made some beautiful candles out of Edisto shells when I got home last year.....if I am lucky, I will find some more shells perfect for such a purpose...for the giveaway table at Alumalina.

I so love this area. Crossing the bridges, all you see are marshes, tiny islands, beautiful old homes, boats...the LowCountry, in all its splendor.


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good morning there Maggie... how's your weather holding up?? we're having our false spring... was 71 at my house yesterday... ahhh.. but it only last a few days, then back to "normal"... hugs and love to you two...I'm looking forward to the pics of the new candles!!!
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Hi Gail!

I found beautiful, perfect-for-candling shells last year....the most gorgeous colors, that make me smile to look at them. Looking forward to some more.

We've had some rain....but, it isn't snow...it has also cooled off and we're fixin' to have a bit of a cold snap....but, going to be a high of only 16 at home today, with a low of 8. Can't complain.

Sun is shining today, and it will be beautiful.

Hunting down Sofia Coppola locally today, and going to get under the benches and ferret out hidden areas of dog hair accumulation.

I can smell them, so I know they're there.

They can hide, but they are not safe from my long-armed reach.


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In Hobby Lobby yesterday, I bought this large and lovely rose for my solo self, and to have in the interior of the Interstate....just to look at.

It is artificial something, feels and looks a bit like soft leather.


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Love Hobby Lobby, that's what prompted me to upgrade to a smart phone years ago, 50% off every day.

Pretty Rose, they have good quality florals.
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They do have nice things.

I was looking for perhaps 3 smaller silks, but couldn't find anything I liked....this was the most natural appearing, IMO.

My first Interstate-produced soy candle.

I melted the soy chips in the glass in the microwave, adding more as needed to fill....a few drops of essential oil, add wick and hold down a minute with a wooden skewer.

Voila!

Better for me, and for the environment, and at the bargain price of perhaps $1.50 for a 6oz or so candle.

I will do this again.


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Very nice Maggie. Looks just like one you might find in a store ....for $7-8. What type essential oils do you use? I love scented candles, especially in winter...cozy.

Wow, turned on the local news....downtown Denver is absolutely wild today....celebration and parade for Denver Broncos 50th Super Bowl win. Looks like 1/2 of the Metro area is down there! A sea of Bronco orange and blue. (Not me)! I don't do big crowds. I'll watch a bit on TV.
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Old 02-09-2016, 11:57 AM   #1756
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Hi Evelyn.

$7-$8 would be an inexpensive candle, too. They are ridiculously priced, in my opinion.

I burn a candle for several hours each evening...I love the flickering light reflecting off the silver walls in here...so I like calming, restful, pre-sleep, scents like lavender with a little ylang ylang, or lavender and rose.

You can do anything you like....cedarwood with lemongrass is another favorite.


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beautiful rose!!! and the candle looks perfect... I can almost smell it!!! I have those glasses too, left over from previous candles... now I have to find the soy wax and more wicks.. I used to make candles... but have no idea where any of that stuff might be now... packed somewhere in the shed??... keep having fun!!! and inspiring the rest of us!!! hugs and love to you two... gail
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My brother has bees so I get to make bees wax candles. I love the smell.
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Hey there, Gearheart! August will be here before we know it.

I have never made candles with beeswax, but have used it to add stability to homemade lip balms.

A thin film of ice on the puddles as I walked Lily this morning. I did remember to turn my tank heater on overnight, and will have to do that for the next 5-6 days, it looks like.

Still, a good 30 degrees warmer than at home...so no complaints from me.

I'm starting to really look forward to spending some time at Huntington Beach SP....also a favorite of the Leake's, another rousing endorsement.

A new beach to explore and walk upon....it's why we're here.


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One of the small pleasures I have been able to enjoy in retirement is reading....a rather odd variety, leaning heavily toward crime mysteries mixed with history, historical fiction, social issues.

(Vince...I read that book. I liked the letter to the goat best. )

I have been reading a book entitled "Such Good Girls", about Jewish children who went into hiding to survive the Holocaust.....some thru being physically concealed by brave others, others by hiding in plain sight thru adopting new identities.

Not the first book I have read about the Holocaust, and likely not the last.

Some of these children hid with a parent...generally Mothers, as the men were taken first...but many were sent to often a series of total strangers for safekeeping...while some or all of their family perished, one way or another.

What they went thru to survive is almost unimaginable, and how living like this for years affected them as they grew to adulthood after the war is very painful to read.

I loved this line, tho all were not so fortunate as this girl...

"She had put together a life out of spare parts and the kindness of fearless strangers, and had emerged from her fragmented childhood with a fighting spirit."

The permanent effects of trauma on the psyche, at whatever age. is something I have strived to learn about and understand for 30+ years....for lots of reasons, not the least of which were the survivor children and parents who dominated my caseload.

Scarred, and permanently altered by their experiences, survivors of all kinds of trauma walk among us, having pulled together as they could the wreckage of their lives.

We don't know what paths others have walked, and all scars can't be seen.

Be kind.


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