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05-17-2007, 01:51 AM
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Rivet Master
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400 Year old Airstream??
Did Wally Byam invent the Airsteam or just re-use a 400 year old idea and put wheels on it? The picture was taken in Jamestown, VA during the their 400 year party. I'd hate to try and polish that one.
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05-17-2007, 02:47 AM
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Rivet Master
2004 22' International CCD
Spotsylvania
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Join Date: Mar 2004
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The sections are held together with deer bones, thus the first use of "Buck" rivets.
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2004 22' CCD
1997 F-150
TAC VA-12
AIR# 4749
ex WBCCI# 1430
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05-17-2007, 03:56 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 27' Overlander
1954 26' Romany Cruiser
1960 26' Overlander
Rockingham County
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That is just too kool, thanks for sharing!
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'46 Spartan Manor (Rosie)
'54 Cruiser (Bogart)
'60 Overlander (Hoagy)
2007 GMC Sierra 2500 HD Duramax
WBCCI 1754 - AIR # 6281
www.balrgn.com
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05-17-2007, 05:39 AM
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Retired.
Currently Looking...
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But the door is on the wrong side!
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05-17-2007, 05:40 AM
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
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must be english.
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05-17-2007, 05:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 31' Sovereign
Colfax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Merry-Can
must be english.
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Yes, Jamestown was an English colony, so the door is on the correct side.
Marie
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05-17-2007, 06:23 AM
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
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spot on, mate.
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05-17-2007, 06:54 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A-Merry-Can
must be english.
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But does it leak oil?
('74 MG Midget, '91 Jag Vanden Plas so I'm qualified to ask)
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05-17-2007, 12:30 PM
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Addicted to Aluminum
1959 18' "Footer"
1964 24' Tradewind
1954 29' Liner
Woodstock
, Georgia
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Posts: 2,015
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HiHoAgRV
But does it leak oil?
('74 MG Midget, '91 Jag Vanden Plas so I'm qualified to ask)
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ditto!
(land rover, triumph, and english wife)
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05-17-2007, 12:33 PM
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1982 24' Airstream 240
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Does it have a flush toilet?
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WBCCI # 8252 Air#13593
1982 24'Motorhome (82Ste P)
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05-17-2007, 12:40 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SteSpot
Does it have a flush toilet?
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Yes, it's in the loo.
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05-17-2007, 12:45 PM
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1982 24' Airstream 240
Ventura
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No Corning windows to replace.
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WBCCI # 8252 Air#13593
1982 24'Motorhome (82Ste P)
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05-17-2007, 02:08 PM
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Tom, the Uber Disney Fan
2006 30' Safari
Orlando
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Yes, but is it all original and is it the original owner?
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05-17-2007, 03:16 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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I think it definately needs a new axle...but the real question is, can it be polished?
Shari
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05-17-2007, 04:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by InsideOut
I think it definately needs a new axle...but the real question is, can it be polished? Shari
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Only with great effort, but it can be brushed quite easily.
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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05-17-2007, 06:02 PM
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3 Rivet Member
1964 28' Ambassador
Oklahoma City
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Jan 2006
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The Lucas electrical system seems a tad problematic.
65 Jag XKE
52 MG TD
61 MGA
80 MGB
Do not tow trailer in dampish weather.
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05-17-2007, 10:13 PM
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2002
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Believe it or not
Historians would have us believe that Wally Byam got the inspiration for the aerodynamic design of a lightweight metal travel trailer from his years of employment in the aircraft industry. Sadly, that is not the case. We know that Wally spent much of his childhood confined in a wooden sheepherder’s carriage. It is not surprising that after many lonely nights in a wood box with only sheep for companions, Wally became determined to find a more comfortable and appealing type of portable shelter. My exhaustive research led me to discover that Wally actually got his inspiration from early pioneers in the electric toaster industry.
It was on a sunny morning in the summer of 1936, while sitting at his breakfast table, eating a bowl of gruel and toast when his attention was drawn to the design of the Sunbeam Model T-1 Toaster on his table which had been invented by Alfred F. Fukal of Chicago, Illinois. Wow, thought Wally, that would be an almost perfect design for a towable shelter!
He immediately left his bowl of gruel half eaten and scurried to his workshop. Some years later, the famous design was created and the legend began.
I understand of course that some will doubt my factual collection of history, so I am attaching both Rukal’s original toaster design and a comparison to Byam’s early Airstream trailer designs. So for those doubters, ask yourself…does the design look more like an aircraft or more like a toaster?
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May you camp where wind won’t hit you, where snakes won’t bite and bears won’t git you.
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05-18-2007, 04:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rog0525
I understand of course that some will doubt my factual collection of history, so I am attaching both Rukal’s original toaster design and a comparison to Byam’s early Airstream trailer designs. So for those doubters, ask yourself…does the design look more like an aircraft or more like a toaster?
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Having owned both, I would have to go with a flying toaster.
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05-18-2007, 05:09 AM
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Rivet Master
Massachusetts
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rog0525
Historians would have us believe that Wally Byam got the inspiration for the aerodynamic design of a lightweight metal travel trailer from his years of employment in the aircraft industry. Sadly, that is not the case. We know that Wally spent much of his childhood confined in a wooden sheepherder’s carriage. It is not surprising that after many lonely nights in a wood box with only sheep for companions, Wally became determined to find a more comfortable and appealing type of portable shelter. My exhaustive research led me to discover that Wally actually got his inspiration from early pioneers in the electric toaster industry.
It was on a sunny morning in the summer of 1936, while sitting at his breakfast table, eating a bowl of gruel and toast when his attention was drawn to the design of the Sunbeam Model T-1 Toaster on his table which had been invented by Alfred F. Fukal of Chicago, Illinois. Wow, thought Wally, that would be an almost perfect design for a towable shelter!
He immediately left his bowl of gruel half eaten and scurried to his workshop. Some years later, the famous design was created and the legend began.
I understand of course that some will doubt my factual collection of history, so I am attaching both Rukal’s original toaster design and a comparison to Byam’s early Airstream trailer designs. So for those doubters, ask yourself…does the design look more like an aircraft or more like a toaster?
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Rog...you present a very compelling argument! I don't know what to say except that there doesn't seem to be anyway to dispute that argument.
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Attitude is the only difference between ordeal and adventure
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05-18-2007, 05:16 AM
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5 rivets, 1 loose screw
1966 20' Globetrotter
Saginaw County
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Join Date: May 2002
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Another little known fact is that Wally was the originator of the term "think outside the box".
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May you camp where wind won’t hit you, where snakes won’t bite and bears won’t git you.
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