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10-06-2020, 12:56 PM
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Rivet Master
2005 34' Classic S/O
2006 39' Land Yacht 396 XL
north blenheim
, New York
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2,847
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Yes, I’m still running the the Goodyear 8R19.5’s on the 325LE, put the Centramatics on it last year. When the Goodyear’s get replaced in 2 years we’ll switch to the Michelin’s. Regards, Bob
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10-09-2020, 08:07 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 34.5' Airstream 345
Menomonee Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 424
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I highly recommend centermatics.
Off the car balancing only balances the wheel tire assembly. There is a fair amount of mass in the rotors hub and rear assembly too. Take a look at a dump truck going down the road. Have you ever seen the tag axles bouncing. That could be a balanced tire but a hub drum assembly that has weight in it. Its money well spent.
We got 245s on our 325. We got about 1.25 inches of clearance between the duals. As for putting 245 s on a 6 inch wheel. The amount of drawing the tire will do is pretty small. Just my opinion .
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10-09-2020, 08:09 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 34.5' Airstream 345
Menomonee Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 424
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I put the 245s on because I really don't like how spindly the front end looks with 225s. I like a wider footprint. Especially on the front end.
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11-30-2020, 02:17 PM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,007
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While we were busy not paying attention, a new and compelling contender has entered the arena
https://www.tirereview.com/cooper-ro...livery-trucks/
225/70r19.5, or 245s
right load rating
M/S triple peak option
87mph speed rating
$250/tire... About half as much as the Michelin, from a good brand. Cooper, not triangle or doublecoin.
I have access to a 30% rebate on the michelins, but even after that these are $100/tire cheaper... That's serious enough dough to make me reevaluate the michelins that have been gathering dust in my shopping cart
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1983 Airstream 310 Class A Motorhome
-Rob
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11-30-2020, 02:28 PM
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnet18
While we were busy not paying attention, a new and compelling contender has entered the arena
https://www.tirereview.com/cooper-ro...livery-trucks/
225/70r19.5, or 245s
right load rating
M/S triple peak option
87mph speed rating
$250/tire... About half as much as the Michelin, from a good brand. Cooper, not triangle or doublecoin.
I have access to a 30% rebate on the michelins, but even after that these are $100/tire cheaper... That's serious enough dough to make me reevaluate the michelins that have been gathering dust in my shopping cart
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Nice, glad to see more options for 8R's . I used Coopers before some 20 years ago and had no issues with them.
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
AIR #13
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12-01-2020, 08:06 AM
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Rivet Master
1991 35' Airstream 350
Columbia
, Tennessee
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 927
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Good to hear about the Cooper tire addition to their line.
Have Coopers on my work truck and wagon, have been great tires!
I like to support USA owned company's when ever possible. Cooper and Goodyear are the only two American company's left!
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Chris & Brenda....................cMADMAXman
AIR Member 12654
1991 350LE "Zephyr"
1982 310 MoHo (Sold! New home, NYC.)
Many Years ago, 1972 Argosy 24' trailer
Toad, 2001 Chevy Tracker 4x4
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12-01-2020, 08:35 AM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cmadmaxman
Good to hear about the Cooper tire addition to their line.
Have Coopers on my work truck and wagon, have been great tires!
I like to support USA owned company's when ever possible. Cooper and Goodyear are the only two American company's left!
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They are! Though cooper outsources some manufacturing to china and mexico... Wish I could tell which tires before buying
Placing these files here for reference. I'm probably leaning towards getting these
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12-03-2020, 10:23 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,106
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I'm finally in a position to purchase tires all around (6) for the 1975 Argosy 24, and tonight I've been revisiting all the tire threads I have bookmarked.
Michelins, Goodyears, and now these Coopers. What to do.
From the glowing reports in this thread, I guess I will be looking into the Centramatics as well.
Inspecting the vehicle (in the cold and dark), it currently has 8.75R16.5LT and the name I see is Widetrack Baja A/S. The tread is deep, but with all the checking and cracks, I can't believe they hold air.
I'm wondering why the current tire size is so different than what everyone else has.
I hate being a guinea pig, but if I go with the Coopers, that seems to be the situation in which I would be placing myself.
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25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
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12-03-2020, 10:55 PM
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Rivet Master
1972 25' Tradewind
1976 31' Excella 500
1974 31' Excella 500
1975 24' Argosy 24
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 1,106
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I see now that I'm an idiot and even though they are all P30 chassis, the 70's Argosies have much smaller wheels than the 80's Airstreams.
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25' 1972 Airstream Trade Wind Land Yacht (heavily customized)
2006 Jeep Liberty CRD (diesel)
BeahmStream.com
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12-04-2020, 05:58 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kidjedi
I see now that I'm an idiot and even though they are all P30 chassis, the 70's Argosies have much smaller wheels than the 80's Airstreams.
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Nope, definitely not an idiot! I was surprised when I bought the 20' Argosy after owning the 310 that the wheels and tires were different. After some research (like you just did) I found the same thing you did. The wheel wells on the Classics are actually larger to accommodate the larger wheels.
I did switch mine from the 16.5" wheels to 16" wheels because tires for the 16" wheels are a lot easier to find.
Brad
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-04-2020, 10:52 AM
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Keen amature
1975 20' Argosy 20
Chestfield
, Kent
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,535
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The JB8 brake options (disc/drum) had the smaller wheels (even the later 250).
The JB9 brake option (disc/disc) need a bigger rear wheel to clear the caliper (and so a bigger front wheel to match).
Be careful though, even a 16in wheel with a LT235/85R16 tire touched the wheel well on Bella (maybe due to the new frame), and I had to swap for a LT225/85R16 to get clearance. The 16in wheel maybe smaller dia but the tire diameter is the same as the 16.5in (bigger if you use the 235/85R tire).
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12-04-2020, 11:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1974 20' Argosy 20
Richmond
, Kentucky
Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 9,116
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I never really thought about why they made the wheel size change but that makes a whole lot of sense.
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Air forums # 1674
1974 20' Argosy Motor Home
1975 24' Argosy Motor Home
1974 31' Excella trailer (parting out, as of 4/1/2015 I have wheels & windows left to sell)
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12-05-2020, 08:51 AM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 34.5' Airstream 345
Menomonee Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 424
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Cooper tires
Hi guys
I have coopers on my western star. I got 100k on them. Doing quarterly inspections I have no wear on the drive tires. All 8 drive tires are wearing even. Now. I don't use a lot of brakes and I don't trounce on the throttle..... to much.. point is coopers are good tires. I think they re American made. Who knows anymore. Made in America could mean assembled or packaged here. I ve always liked coopers or Kelly's.
I got 295 x 50 x 15 coopers on my 50 caddy. Very cool. That s how these old cars should have looked. 2.5 inches lower. From the back the wheel wells are full of tire. Imagine . 6 inch chrome tips on the exhaust. Its cool.
Anyway .... coopers are a great tire. I ve always thought michlens were overrated and overpriced.
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12-05-2020, 09:34 AM
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Rivet Master
Commercial Member
Ravenna
, Ohio
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 1,344
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When making tire size changes just be sure that the new ST or LT type tires can support 115% of the MEASURED load you ar putting on the tires. That means the truck scale reading with the RV fully loaded to the heaviest you ever expect to be.
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12-05-2020, 09:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member
1965 17' Caravel
Los Angeles
, California
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 31
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1965 caravel tires?
I’m not sure how to create a new thread but since this one is about tires maybe someone can help. I need new tires for my ‘65 Caravel. It currently has dynatrail 205/7515 ST radials. I was told not to get radials by an airstream renovation expert but I am told Goodyear endurance radials are great. I life the diamondback whitewalls but so expensive. What should I get?
Thanks!
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12-05-2020, 10:16 AM
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cinesilver
I’m not sure how to create a new thread but since this one is about tires maybe someone can help. I need new tires for my ‘65 Caravel. It currently has dynatrail 205/7515 ST radials. I was told not to get radials by an airstream renovation expert but I am told Goodyear endurance radials are great. I life the diamondback whitewalls but so expensive. What should I get?
Thanks!
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This thread is specifically about Airstream Motorhome tires and not trailer tires.
Having said that, a good choice IMHO for your 65 Caravel are the new goodyear endurance line. I have used them extensively. The tire store will most likely inflate them to 80psi, which would be to harsh of a ride for your trailer. You need to inflate them according to your weight.
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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12-11-2020, 10:35 PM
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4 Rivet Member
1987 34.5' Airstream 345
Menomonee Falls
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 424
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Hey
What about your spare.
Are you getting centermatics.
Get new valve stems too.
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12-12-2020, 06:15 AM
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Rivet Master
Churubusco
, Indiana
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 2,007
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Quote:
Originally Posted by davejay
Hey
What about your spare.
Are you getting centermatics.
Get new valve stems too.
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Good reminder on valve stems, i need to order some
Didn't spring for centramatics at this time, got the dynabeads which I've seen others on here have good success with, 6oz for each front 8 oz for each rear
Just taking the newest front tire to use as the spare
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12-12-2020, 06:22 AM
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Airstream Driver
1994 30' Excella
1992 35' Airstream 350
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 5,224
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnet18
Good reminder on valve stems, i need to order some
Didn't spring for centramatics at this time, got the dynabeads which I've seen others on here have good success with, 6oz for each front 8 oz for each rear
Just taking the newest front tire to use as the spare
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Keep in mind that the front P-30 centramatics were made as a custom run, initiated by our group of Classic Airstreamers owners. Not sure I would be able to get them to do another batch, after they run out.
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1994 30' Excella Front Kitchen Trailer
1990 25' Excella Travel trailer
1992 350LE Classic Touring Coach
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