Installing a Honda 4010/6010 generator

[PeterH-350LE]

The Honda water cooled EV4010 generator I ordered arrived yesterday.
Upon studying the enclosed literature, I noticed two things that I am not very pleased with:
1. these units do not have an internal battery charger (even though I specifically asked about it and had it confirmed prior to ordering it). Consequently, I may have to rewire it to the coach batteries.
2. there is no high altitude switch on the carburetor, like some of the newer onans have.
Positives so far: The manual included precise cut-out templates for the generator tray. The mufflers comes with a spark arrester.
Today I will be cutting the various holes in the 5 gauge steel of the generator compartment.

[74Argosy24MH]

Is the start-stop compatible or another complete change over?

John

[PeterH-350LE]

Remote is next, looks like it will work with some modifications.
Got the Honda installed. Runs great and takes loads without any effort.
What a job!!! Cutting the holes in the 3/16 steel mounting plate was a bear. The fit is extremly tight. Took me 20 hours and I still have a few left.
For sure not your average do-it-yourself weekend job.

[John]

Peter,

An Artist with an engineers mind!!!

John

[thenewkid64]

Peter,

I am reading between the lines here, I should not ask you to do a demonstration install on my Argosy at Mystic Springs??

All kidding aside it looks great!

I can't wait to see it in person

[74Argosy24MH]

Congrats, it does look great. Trying to make 2 different sets of engineer's ideas work together is always fun, isn't it?

John

[PeterH-350LE]

I have one unresolved issue with the muffler mount. They provider 2 heavy duty metal brackets to mount the muffler under the compartment.
I don't get that part. The engine is mounted on rubber then why would you want to hard mount the muffler. Wouldn' that restrict engine movement and transfer sound to the frame?
Normally you see a bracket with a rubber strap to support the muffler?

[74Argosy24MH]

It would restrict movement to the max. When mine stops it moves so much that the housing almost touches the mounting plate, about an inch. The exhaust doesn't seem like it would last too long with that kind of stress.

John

[PeterH-350LE]

My logic was working ok, but some other part of my brain didn't function. Some of the holes I cut in the compartment tray are for the bracket mounts.
It does mount right to the engine.

[74Argosy24MH]

After a weekend like that you usually need to step back for a day to let all the details fall into place.

John

[PeterH-350LE]

Originally posted by 74Argosy24MH
Is the start-stop compatible or another complete change over?

John

The Honda is wired reverse. Stop=start and start=stop. Figures! Got it all working now.
All the supply wires were on the left side of the genset, versus the right on the onan.
This is a very time consuming and difficult switch over. I would estimate minimum shop labor to be 600-800, anything less would indicate a questionable installation.

[74Argosy24MH]

All the supply wires were on the left side of the genset, versus the right on the onan.

I was in a very crowded gas station the other day, cars everywhere trying to get at a pump that was useable for their fill location. Wondered then, and again now hearing how everything was backwards for you, why such simple things can't have a standard location. It sure wouldn't make a lot of difference other than ease of use and installation.

John