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10-20-2021, 05:46 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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2018 or 2020? Quick purchase advice
I have the option of buying either a 2020 4x4
Or a 2018 GT 4x4 with VB air.
About same miles. Same condition
The 2018 will be $32k less than the 2020.
I love all the new bells and whistles of the 2020 and the warranty that’s still in effect.
But is it worth $32k more?
Ide love to hear what the expert think and if the new gadgetry is worth it.
Thanks.
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10-20-2021, 05:52 PM
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#2
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,740
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Hi
It's a truck ... miles do matter, possibly at least as much as months or years. What's on the odometer of each?
What sort of shape is each one in. Folks can make a pretty big mess in a very short amount of time
Past that newer is always better.
Bob
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10-20-2021, 05:55 PM
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#3
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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2020 28000 miles. $187900
2018 24000 miles. $155500
I haven’t been able to see them just yet.
But the condition is supposed to be excellent on both.
Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
It's a truck ... miles do matter, possibly at least as much as months or years. What's on the odometer of each?
What sort of shape is each one in. Folks can make a pretty big mess in a very short amount of time
Past that newer is always better.
Bob
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10-20-2021, 06:47 PM
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#4
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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Also
Looks like the 2018 has larger Grey and black holding tanks.
27 grey 14 black
Vs
21 grey 11 black.
Lol. I know. It minor. But that crap matters. Literally. Every little bit helps.
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10-20-2021, 07:19 PM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,740
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Hi
I've seen a ton of houses, cars, trucks, trailers, .... that the internet claimed were "excellent shape". If I see one that does not have significant bullet damage next time, that will be the winner of the group.
Take a look at them and see what *you* think. If you can get a mechanic to dig into each of them, that's time well spent ( even if you have to pay him a bit ...).
To me, both prices are insane. The 2020 is higher than what a brand new (base version) one *should* cost (factory order). The 2018 is still more than a bit crazy.
When confronted with similar numbers last March, my decision was to order one up and wait for it.
Bob
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10-20-2021, 07:26 PM
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle_bob
Hi
I've seen a ton of houses, cars, trucks, trailers, .... that the internet claimed were "excellent shape". If I see one that does not have significant bullet damage next time, that will be the winner of the group.
Take a look at them and see what *you* think. If you can get a mechanic to dig into each of them, that's time well spent ( even if you have to pay him a bit ...).
To me, both prices are insane. The 2020 is higher than what a brand new (base version) one *should* cost (factory order). The 2018 is still more than a bit crazy.
When confronted with similar numbers last March, my decision was to order one up and wait for it.
Bob
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I know Bob
It’s insane. I can’t seem to make a decision. Driving my family crazy. Stressed out. I’m tired of looking.
All prices are stupid.
We are leaning towards the 2018 bigger fridge more cabinets large holding tanks. Lower price.
I don’t know.
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10-21-2021, 08:02 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,740
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stubble88
I know Bob
It’s insane. I can’t seem to make a decision. Driving my family crazy. Stressed out. I’m tired of looking.
All prices are stupid.
We are leaning towards the 2018 bigger fridge more cabinets large holding tanks. Lower price.
I don’t know.
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Hi
At those prices, I most certainly would step back and compare them to a factory order. You won't have it until spring, but it comes with a 3 year warranty and all the latest "bling". (and zero miles on the odometer). You also don't get to deal with the mods done by some previous owner named Bob. Never good when somebody like that starts playing with anything
That said, if the ones you are looking at are reasonably priced, they will sell quickly. If they have been hanging around for a while, that's a pretty good indication that even in today's market, the asking price (on both of them) is to high.
Bob
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10-21-2021, 08:12 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stubble88
2020 28000 miles. $187900
2018 24000 miles. $155500
I haven’t been able to see them just yet.
But the condition is supposed to be excellent on both.
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What the heck are you buying for either $187,900, or $155,500? I don't recognize the description and that sure is a LOT of money no matter what it is your contemplating!
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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10-21-2021, 08:28 AM
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#9
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gypsydad
What the heck are you buying for either $187,900, or $155,500? I don't recognize the description and that sure is a LOT of money no matter what it is your contemplating!
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These are both silver 4x4’s
2018 is a GT also has air suspension. Doctor owned always maintained at same airstream dealer. New batteries installed.
2020 is a 4x4 lounge
I factory order 4x4 is about $213,000
And is supposed to go up to $240,000 ish. So I hear.
Ide just like to know which one is the better buy.
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10-21-2021, 10:34 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
Mesquite
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2019
Posts: 171
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@ those prices I would put the money down on a 2nd home!
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10-21-2021, 10:53 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ken G
@ those prices I would put the money down on a 2nd home!
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Obviously you haven’t noticed the home prices either.
I’m just asking which one would be a better buy. I’m fully aware how overpriced everything currently is. There’s no end in sight.
Thanks
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10-22-2021, 08:07 AM
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#12
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,740
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stubble88
These are both silver 4x4’s
2018 is a GT also has air suspension. Doctor owned always maintained at same airstream dealer. New batteries installed.
2020 is a 4x4 lounge
I factory order 4x4 is about $213,000
And is supposed to go up to $240,000 ish. So I hear.
Ide just like to know which one is the better buy.
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Hi
If you go to the Airstream site, you can find the exact MSRP on any new van they make. That price is 206,685 for the base model of either the GT or the GL. 4x4 does push it up a bit (to $216K)
The real point is that even today, dealers discount off of the MSRP. In normal times, that discount would be in the 15 to 20% range. These days 10% is still possible if you shop around.
If and when the factory every goes to $240K, it will be on next year's or the year after that's model. None of that will impact an order placed now and delivered in the spring.
The two used ones have *very* different floor plans. If you are mainly going to sports events with friends then the GL makes sense. For most other things the GT seems like a better choice.
Bob
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10-22-2021, 08:30 AM
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2 Rivet Member
Agua Dulce
, CA
Join Date: Sep 2021
Posts: 29
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Thanks Bob
We are leaning towards the 2018 GT. Less electronics and gadgets to break. $32.4K cheaper. Hopefully it will maintain that resale value
We are just wondering about putting the two kids in the back while driving and having to make and unmake the bed.
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10-22-2021, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2017 28' Flying Cloud
2014 25' FB Flying Cloud
2008 25' Safari FB SE
Georgetown (winter)Thayne (summer)
, Texas & Wyoming
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 6,687
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stubble88
Thanks Bob
We are leaning towards the 2018 GT. Less electronics and gadgets to break. $32.4K cheaper. Hopefully it will maintain that resale value
We are just wondering about putting the two kids in the back while driving and having to make and unmake the bed.
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Which ever one you decide on, advise you to spend a night in it, run all the systems before leaving/ taking ownership of it...This becomes yours once you take delivery...good luck!
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Empty Nesters; Gypsies on the road! 2017 28' Twin Flying Cloud
2017 F250 King Ranch, 4X4, 6.7L, Blue-Ox WDH
Summer-Star Valley Ranch RV Resort (Thayne, WY); Winter-Sun City (Georgetown,TX)
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10-23-2021, 06:51 AM
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#15
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
Posts: 15,740
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stubble88
Thanks Bob
We are leaning towards the 2018 GT. Less electronics and gadgets to break. $32.4K cheaper. Hopefully it will maintain that resale value
We are just wondering about putting the two kids in the back while driving and having to make and unmake the bed.
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Hi
The ride in the back of any of these vans is a bit rough. How much that bothers kids ... who knows. The only reasonably comfortable option for 4 and long trips is the GL. Either way, sleeping 4 in the van is going to be a challenge.
Bob
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