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03-22-2020, 06:28 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1964 19' Globetrotter
Val des monts
, Ontario
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 5
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Wow does it ever look amazing. Hope to get mine like that one day.
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06-30-2020, 04:06 PM
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#42
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1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,930
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06-30-2020, 04:19 PM
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#43
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1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,930
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There is a removable table that stows under the desk - slid all the way into the bathroom cabinet. It's large enough for 4 people - barely, but great for two. The cut corner on the table allows space to go in and out of the door if needed.
The hole in the floor where the table leg mounts is covered by a carpet when the table isn't in use.
The storage pic shows the table partially into the storage slot and also the location of the electrical panel access under the desk. The wheel well has been boxed in under the desk. The desk tops lift up to access storage inside (school desk style) and charging stations for devices
One interesting challenge was curtains. Trailer sides are curved and holding the curtains against the wall has been a challenge on every trailer we've had. Various tracks and tie backs have been less than awesome imo and so I tried something new this time - time will tell is it was a good solution . Curtains are snapped right to the wall. A wood bar 2/3rds of the way down the curtain has small embedded magnets at each end. These stick to small metal (painted) plates attached the edge of the window frames to keep the curtains tight to the wall. Curtains are easily removed to wash. The same bar, when pulled up to the to edge of the curtain, holds up the curtain, valance style.
The heater fits under the street side couch.
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06-30-2020, 04:50 PM
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#44
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,930
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How to build an accordion door:
many older Airstreams came with an accordion door separating the bathroom or sleeping areas from the main living space. On mid sixties models they were made of vinyl and wires with hangers that attached to curtain slides. There is no direct replacement for these but it's possible to make one using the original hardware, fabric and some plastic vertical blind slats.
Basically you make an envelope, seam up channels, insert slats and replace the hardware. There is a hard bar (curtain rod) on either end, also in fabric channels. One end is fixed to the wall and the other is the leading edge and the magnetic close attaches to it
Using fabric that has a vertical stripe on one side will make seaming the channels MUCH easier - these big pieces of cloth are a challenge to keep straight on a sewing machine.
Most of the parts used for these doors are still available except for the metal bent wire hangers but it you can reuse the old, find some salvage or fashion new you can make a new door that's better than the original. The slats give rigidity and the fabric provides a little sound barrier.
Initially we used larger hangers shown below but later switched to smaller curtain carriers.
Smaller curtain carrier allows door to fold tightly (larger wheeled version shown earlier is too bulky)
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06-30-2020, 08:21 PM
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#45
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Rivets?
1992 29' Excella
2010 22' Interstate
Van By The River
, Georgia
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 2,363
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Nice progress! We've enjoyed seeing the upgrades you've made. The pleated door looks amazing. Everything is coming together well.
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1992 29' Excella Classic / 2010 Interstate
2005 Chevrolet Suburban K2500 8.1L
2018 GMC Sierra K1500 SLT, 6.2L, Max Trailering
Got a cooped-up feeling, gotta get out of town, got those Airstream campin' blues...
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06-30-2020, 09:27 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,996
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Really looking good. Nice job on the "wire stays corset inserts" for the bathroom curtains.
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07-01-2020, 01:25 PM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,930
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hittenstiehl
Really looking good. Nice job on the "wire stays corset inserts" for the bathroom curtains.
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This is the second time I've made one of these. First time around was for the 64 overlander which had two of these doors. More sedate color but all these years later they are still going strong.
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07-01-2020, 01:38 PM
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Rivet Master
1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,919
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That is stunning!
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07-01-2020, 02:24 PM
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,996
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Janet, thank you for replying. I was tempted to say I had seen one of those on the forum before. I thought I would not be able to find it. I have a feeling the one I saw on here previously was yours as I was very impressed with that one also. I tried to make a mental note at the time to do that with my future one. Hopefully I will remember or I need to start making a word document of all these great solutions.
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07-05-2020, 10:30 AM
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Always learning
1972 29' Ambassador
1962 19' Globetrotter
1951 21' Flying Cloud
Central
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,881
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Very nice trailer!
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Lance
Work is never done, so take time to play!
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07-05-2020, 02:33 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2021 19' Caravel
Wilderness
, MO
Join Date: Mar 2020
Posts: 103
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Janet, that's beautiful!
Someday we'll have a a 25 year old Airstream, but we're going to have to wait 24 more years as ours is a 2020 Bambi 19cb. I'll be doing renovations as the years pass, for certain. I've already decided that when our current tow vehicle needs replacing, which probably won't be for another 10 years, our new one will have a larger tow capacity and I'll do things such as put on the front rock guards, etc. An Airstream is a gateway drug to other ideas and possibilites.
Anyway, as I said, your Airstream is stunning.
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07-05-2020, 04:22 PM
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#52
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3 Rivet Member
2018 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
St auguatine
, Florida
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 184
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janet H
There is a removable table that stows under the desk - slid all the way into the bathroom cabinet. It's large enough for 4 people - barely, but great for two. The cut corner on the table allows space to go in and out of the door if needed.
The hole in the floor where the table leg mounts is covered by a carpet when the table isn't in use.
The storage pic shows the table partially into the storage slot and also the location of the electrical panel access under the desk. The wheel well has been boxed in under the desk. The desk tops lift up to access storage inside (school desk style) and charging stations for devices
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One interesting challenge was curtains. Trailer sides are curved and holding the curtains against the wall has been a challenge on every trailer we've had. Various tracks and tie backs have been less than awesome imo and so I tried something new this time - time will tell is it was a good solution . Curtains are snapped right to the wall. A wood bar 2/3rds of the way down the curtain has small embedded magnets at each end. These stick to small metal (painted) plates attached the edge of the window frames to keep the curtains tight to the wall. Curtains are easily removed to wash. The same bar, when pulled up to the to edge of the curtain, holds up the curtain, valance style.
Attachment 371634
The heater fits under the street side couch.
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Thanks for sharing. What a beauty!!!
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07-05-2020, 05:15 PM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
1968 17' Caravel
1967 22' Safari
Leawood
, Kansas
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 456
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Thanks for the updates. I kept my accordion door, grimy as it was for my Caravel. Now with your tutorial on your update, I'll do the same. I really didn't just want a curtain.
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07-05-2020, 07:58 PM
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Rivet Master
1967 17' Caravel
Pocatello
, Idaho
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 944
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfreeham
Janet, that's beautiful!... your Airstream is stunning.
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X2!! What an amazing job you have done: the wood is gorgeous. And far from making fun of your commode cover, that was my first thought after another post said they didn't like the commode ruining the view from the nice big rear window. But then I am a seamstress, too, so I guess great minds think alike!
I had also figured out how to do a real folding door after looking at a few survivors in vintage trailers, but your instructions are very detailed and answer those "devilish detail" questions.
My tiny Caravel is not with me yet, but I will have to figure out where to stow my bassoon safely, so music will figure in mine as well.
I am envious of the fun you have had making this tiny gem from something very rough indeed! Best of luck going forward!
Vivian
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07-05-2020, 09:50 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
, Washington
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,512
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Janet, what an amazing job from when I saw that in Richland as a shell with the floor down. BEAUTIFUL WORK!
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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07-06-2020, 09:23 AM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,930
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Quote:
Originally Posted by docflyboy
Thanks for the updates. I kept my accordion door, grimy as it was for my Caravel. Now with your tutorial on your update, I'll do the same. I really didn't just want a curtain.
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I agree about the the curtain solution, just not great. Using an upholstery weight fabric; one that has a crypton backing (used in healthcare settings for barrier control) is about perfect.
I reused the hangers and latching hardware as well as the leading and trailing edge bars. I pitched the rigid wires and used blind slats for rigidity. The cut slats, don't need to go quite to the top. Leaving a several inch gap near the top makes inserting the hangers a little simpler. The slats also add nice weight so the door hangs well.
BTW totofbarics is a great place to find high end upholstery remnants https://www.totofabrics.com/ and bargain prices.
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07-06-2020, 09:37 AM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jfreeham
An Airstream is a gateway drug to other ideas and possibilites.
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^ Fact!
This is the 3rd Airstream for us. I used to wonder how/why anyone could ever go beyond Airstream number 1 but as time has passed our needs have changed and we've learned along the way.
We started with a 19 foot Minuet; it was tiny and cute but the abundance of plastic in a 70's trailer made updates difficult and the extra narrow body was just too confining.
After an 8 week trip we decided we needed a bigger trailer and after looking and and never finding looking for a 24 ft tradewind to restore, settled on a 26 foot overlander. It's been great for extended trips and two people and dogs but too big for one person and too long to park tight spaces. I appreciate not having to covert beds into couches in the morning.
We kept the Overlander and added this Globetrotter to the "fleet". It's really set up for one person although the front bed pulls out to accommodate two.
Still wrestling with the spare tire and how or where to carry it. There is room on the tongue but the old carrier doesn't fit the larger wheels and tires. (we went to 16 inch wheels).
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07-06-2020, 09:43 AM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cerberus
My tiny Caravel is not with me yet, but I will have to figure out where to stow my bassoon safely, so music will figure in mine as well.
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Instrument cases are bulky! Storage takes planning. Depending on the floor plan, your caravel may have deep storage bins in the front (floor) that might hold a bassoon case - maybe.
One of the coolest things I've done at a rally was jam with a French Horn player... adding woodwinds to the mix would be good fun!
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07-07-2020, 08:55 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
1968 17' Caravel
1967 22' Safari
Leawood
, Kansas
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 456
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Janet- Love your Mahogany. Did you use 1/4" and then build a frame, or is a thicker plywood. What was your finish?
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07-07-2020, 09:51 AM
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Site Team
1964 26' Overlander
1964 19' Globetrotter
OlyPen
, Washington
Join Date: Aug 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by docflyboy
Janet- Love your Mahogany. Did you use 1/4" and then build a frame, or is a thicker plywood. What was your finish?
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There are several thicknesses of ply.
The upper cabinets are solid face frames with ply doors - the construction is basically the same as the original cabinets and in most cases we used old broken cabinets as templates.
The end caps of the upper are solid and thick and milled to be smooth and roundish. originally they would have been thin ply but there were hard, sharp corners. This seems better to me and is an experiment
All doors are 1/2 - note that they have a solid leading edge (lip). This provides stability, prevents warping and also some protection from bashes and dings. The floor of the upper cabinets is 1/4 inch.
The lower boxes under the seating are 1/2 inch ply and front facing top edge boards are solid. The openings to storage areas have solid edges same as the doors as protection from dings. Doors are 1/2 inch.
The kitchen and bathroom cabinets are a mix of 1/2 and 1/4 inch, using as much 1/4 as possible to reduce weight.
The ply over the black tank is 3/4 over frame (concerned about strength here and so sacrificed light weight). The wheel wells are boxes 1/4 inch ply and rear storage box is 1/2 ply - the lightest birch we could find.
Cabinetry was a challenge for us as our wood working skills are rough - the kitchen cabinet was rebuilt - twice, before we got something decent. We got better as we went along. We had the original uppers and bathroom and pantry cabinets as templates but had to wing it one other boxes. Finding balance between durability and light weight was a challenge.
Afaik 1964s came with white oak so the mahogany was a deviation from original and we made this choice for two reasons: 1. personal preference, 2. materials availability. Mahogany ply is available and in common use in the boat building biz.
The finish on the wood btw was satin polyurethane (oil based) which has a slight amber tint. Several coats with sanding between.
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