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09-08-2011, 05:57 AM
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Rivet Master 
1975 Argosy 26
1963 24' Tradewind
Seattle
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Scott, the transformation is increadible! I love the look, especially with the baby moons. I just started driving again from my injury... I hope to make it over the mountains sometime and see you (and get my stuff out of your way!).
Take care!
Marc
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12-18-2011, 08:22 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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No problem Marc. Was out at the trailer today for the first time in about 5 months (new job this fall). I decided to take additional measures to keep the jelousey window from leaking over the winter when the snow sets on top and slowly melts.
Of course that was enough to get me itching to finish the polish job, the rest of the woodwork and all the little nagging bugs to work out of all the systems. Window and antenna are here still, no worries. Just let me know when you're coming through!
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01-14-2012, 07:00 PM
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#963
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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What a busy school year it has been. I changed jobs this fall which has been an interesting financial adjustment for us, plus our son Jason is in preschool with Abigail in day care (cah-ching cah-ching).
BUT as things are starting to level out I'm hoping to get back to work on cabinets, have some work around the toilet to finish, some trim to put on and then can finally start getting some poly on the cabinets.
I have a few mechanical issues to finish up.
1. I cleaned up the NT-30 furnace that came with the trailer and had bench tested the fan etc but didn't have regulators or propane to test the whole unit. When I pulled it out of the trailer it had all been disconnected but the 12 volt power supply and ground were wired into a household extension cord plug replacement and I'm affraid the PO (or the one before that or the one before that) hooked it up to 110. When you turn the thermostat on the fan kicks on, but no evidence of the unit firing. I'm pretty sure the circuit board is toast, but I have to pull the whole guts to find out, so not so pleased about that.
Second, thanks to Reingirl I have a set of oven controls to have rebuilt so hopefully we can get the stove working correctly, but I'm still looking for a good gas control valve and burner (I've retrofitted a modern unit that's remotely close but it just doesn't fit right and I'm not happy with it). Finally, if our tax return is good I hope to get the trim, stove top, burner pans and front control plate sent of the chrome shop in time to have them back for some summer camping trips.
Ordered some more polishing supplies too, all those shiny trailers at Baker City got me reinfected with the polishing bug, Especially Mona's 1969 right next to us. Also ordered the plastic glazing strips for the windows, not happy how the rubber ones are sitting so going to try it again, was really impressed how the plastic ones looked on a few trailers I saw in person that weekend.
So here's hoping I can find a furnace board without dumping too much money in it (anyone know how to test one of these boards?) A little heat in the trailer would make bringing it home to work inside much nicer (it's only 15 degrees out right now).
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VAC LIBRARIAN WBCCI 8671
1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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01-16-2012, 07:58 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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The dead valve
Here is the thermal safety valve for the oven.
Tappan Range.
This valve receives gas from the oven thermostat up above, but will not let the gas out until the pilot light has heated the attached thermocouple to the right temperature.
I currently have a modern one in there, but it doesn't sit right and therefore either does the burner, and I want it to work exactly right.
This valve sat in water too much of it's life and the aluminum has started to break down.
Any help is appreciated!
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1963 Safari from the 1963-64 Around the World Caravan
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01-16-2012, 08:58 PM
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Site Team

1963 26' Overlander
Hollis
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Oooops, guess I shouldn't have thrown the rest of that oven out  Or was this the part I sent you already and mine didn't work either? Either way I hope you find what you need!
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01-16-2012, 09:13 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Shelly, no you were AWESOME!!!
Probably would have worked out of yours, no doubt, but I didn't know enough about the stove yet to know mine had a problem. Without your travels, and efforts to pull yours apart we wouldn't even be remotely close to be working!
I know there is another stove out there waiting. If I ever come across a complete one I'll get it and stick it in the garage for that day that something else fails!
I still owe you BIG TIME for everything you already did!
- Scott
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01-16-2012, 10:12 PM
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1963 26' Overlander
Hollis
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 Awww... seriously happy to help! Hopefully someday I'll see ya down the road. And if I ever see a 63 Tappan I'll be sure to let you know!
Just curious... did you ever find out who bought that Wally Byam map of the ATW caravan? That was really cool.....
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01-16-2012, 10:16 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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He decided not to sell it. Said he had over $1000 into the frame alone. I tried to get him to let us get it professionally copied, he declined, said it was too fragile. Big disappointment. I have a postcard from a forums member awhile back with the same map. Some day I'm going to get photo shop, going to blow that imagine up big enough I can recreate the exact imagine the full scale size and reprint that poster. Figure it would be a good learning experience, and the software wouldn't cost that much in comparison to trying to get that poster. Oh and my version won't be in a $1000 frame, that's for sure!!
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01-16-2012, 10:21 PM
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Rivet Master 
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
... Some day I'm going to get photo shop, going to blow that imagine up big enough I can recreate the exact imagine the full scale size and reprint that poster. Figure it would be a good learning experience, and the software wouldn't cost that much in comparison to trying to get that poster...
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Hmmm, if you ever do that, could you also go ahead and reproduce the refrigerator art from the 1963 Internationals for me? I'd buy you many, many beers for your troubles.
-Marcus
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01-16-2012, 10:29 PM
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1963 26' Overlander
Hollis
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Hmmm... there's a guy on these forums (Brad Cornelius) bredlo is his AIR name... that is in the business of Photography/illustration.... maybe he'd be able to blow up the postcard for you? $1000 for frame? WOW, I'm speechless
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01-16-2012, 10:38 PM
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Vintage Alum. Enthusiast

1959 24' Tradewind
Phoenix
, Arizona
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: I currently do not own a 2nd Airstream
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There's another Brad on these forums too that does this sort of work. Maybe you guys know him.
Brad
FF
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01-16-2012, 10:44 PM
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1963 26' Overlander
Hollis
, New Hampshire
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flyfshr
There's another Brad on these forums too that does this sort of work. Maybe you guys know him.
Brad
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Hey are you volunteering, cause I would also love the 63 International refrig art!!!!!! Set a price Brad  !
PS Marcus, Your trailer is my gold standard. I've read your thread so many times I've had to upgrade my reading glasses LOL!
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01-16-2012, 10:48 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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DANG BRAD, you got to it before me!!! I was going to mention you and your work. For those of you that don't know, Brad has redone the door art from the Around the World Caravan Trucks so we can get those made as magnets etc. He's also done the artwork for the Around the World Caravan Plaque that resided by the door on many of the airstreams that went on the journey that we're working with Steve at Vintage Trailer Supply to reproduce.
The reason I figured I'd get the program and start tinkering and not mention BRAD is because I feel I already owe him tons and tons because of all the hours he's put into these other two projects.
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Originally Posted by flyfshr
There's another Brad on these forums too that does this sort of work. Maybe you guys know him.
Brad
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01-16-2012, 10:49 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Marcus, that one couldn't be that bad, really. I'm sure a sign shop could print that on the wrap material for cars too and it would look awesome. FYI there is a guy on ebay that is selling a whole bunch of 63 parts, many from the interior of the original fridge. Has the Omni chest listed, so may be an international. Might hit him up!
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01-17-2012, 09:07 AM
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Rivet Master 
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by reinergirl
PS Marcus, Your trailer is my gold standard. I've read your thread so many times I've had to upgrade my reading glasses LOL!
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My goodness, thanks for the kind words, but I'm just a hack. When it comes to 63 Overlanders, Uwe set the gold standard years ago!
Quote:
Originally Posted by goransons
Marcus, that one couldn't be that bad, really. I'm sure a sign shop could print that on the wrap material for cars too and it would look awesome. FYI there is a guy on ebay that is selling a whole bunch of 63 parts, many from the interior of the original fridge. Has the Omni chest listed, so may be an international. Might hit him up!
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Thanks Scott, good to know, I'll check it out.
I sure would love to have that refrigerator art. My problem thus far has been getting an original version of it, with the words and everything. I've seen an occasional low-res version, but nothing I could really work with. The man from Bat Cave offered to sell me an entire 63 International fridge, but he wanted something like $800-$1,000 for it, full price for the fridge.
-Marcus
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01-17-2012, 09:53 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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The good news is this ebay guy has a 63, which he thinks it has the original stove. Texted him back and forth tonight, pictures tomorrow I hope. He's in the New Orleans area, has a 63 International Sovereign. NO FRIDGE (sorry I tried). I plan to try to get him to ship the full range out if it's the right one, I'll send him a fedex label. BUT he wants to sell the trailer. Only has the water tank up front and the complete Bathroom. He wants $2500. I'll get full trailer pics tomorrow. Anyone out that way interested?
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01-19-2012, 02:41 PM
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1963 26' Overlander
Hollis
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Scott,
I'm looking at a vintage magic chef oven and was wondering how hard parts were for it and found these people that say they rebuild thermostats and safety valves to new condition. Seems like a site designed to sell you something but free testing so maybe....
ANTIQUE STOVE SAFETY VALVES* and Thermocouples
If anyone has used them feel free to chime in
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01-19-2012, 03:27 PM
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Rivet Master 
1964 26' Overlander
Richmond
, Virginia
Join Date: Feb 2011
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Hi, I read the opening thread, but couldn't follow all 70 pages. I'm a beekeeper myself, with an observation hive. I was curious if your beekeper friend ever actually went through with the idea - of if he's still on the forums?
Another Rob.
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01-19-2012, 04:10 PM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
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Rob Keller. He is a very colorful fella and has a great blog to read. Wish he posted more about the Bee Mobile.
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01-19-2012, 07:41 PM
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Rivet Master 

1963 22' Safari
2020 27' Globetrotter
State of
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Rob's a great guy, as good as they come. Yes he went through with it, quite a cool concept really. Guess he pulls it all over the area down there, his son is very active with him (his son is probably 6-7 years old now).
Shelly, Check around your area and find an good appliance repair shop, or one of the companies that does restoration of the real old retro stoves, seems to be one in every major city and have them check the valves out (that's my next step).
I would also highly recommend taking the door and the unit's surrounding sheet metal off and replacing the stove insulation. What wasn't mouse ridden in ours was sticky with 50 years of vaporized grease. Cost was pretty cheap, on ours 5 of the 6 sides (none on the bottom) including the door had insulation so just a few running feet from the roll.
Insulation Stoves Ovens Ranges Kilns Powder Coating Fireplaces, Chimneys Insulation
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