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Old 09-06-2009, 11:03 PM   #421
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Were the ATWC emblems brass? I thought they were aluminum. Are you getting some reproductions made? i've been contemplating doing the same thing. Do you have the artwork set up already?

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:17 PM   #422
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For the short term, I had a friend make me some color vinyl reproductions, basically an outdoor digital print of the photo Peewee had. I planned to put that on a plate and use that for awhile, sense all the trophy places and sign shops I contacted wanted huge (over $250) setup costs and then had 50 plate minimums and 20-25 bucks each. The stock plate was a brass background with white, red and black enamel as seen below. The version I'm doing is literally just a print of a modestly cleaned up version of this. The color of plate will only show on the edge, the thickness of the material it goes on. If my plan goes smoothly I may have an extra if the decal is close enough.

If you have better resources for the reproduction, then by all means move forward and let me know how I can get in on it. Finish size is 4.5"
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Old 09-06-2009, 11:31 PM   #423
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There would only be three colors if vinyl was used; red, white and black. They would need to be precisely applied to the round brass but it could be done by someone with some experience applying vinyl. Creating the artwork in Adobe Illustrator would be the time-consuming part, which I can do easily enough.

Let me run with this.

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Old 09-06-2009, 11:37 PM   #424
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Thanks Brad, that could work out really cool. Let me know how I can help. Either way, still need to figure out how to make a round plate without the hole in the middle, but thinking I just need to find someone with a CNC router and go from there.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:08 AM   #425
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Well I have all the holes and vent locations for the suburban vent located on the interior of the skin, and just need to drill through and cut out the holes.

What I'm still trying to figure out, is exactly how to latch the cover on. I plan to use a piano hinge on the forward side, but need to figure out a positive locking system to hold it shut.

Tim posted these photos awhile back, and this particular installation uses some type of captive thread in the place of a rivet and a thumb screw that is captive in the cover.

Anyone know a source for these? Whatever is used in the skin would need to be a weather tight setup, or something that can be made weathertight I guess.
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I don't know where you got those photos, but that is a primo job someone did installing that waterheater(?) cover. I will be looking to do something similar for the furnace and water heater on my '63 28' Ambassador (eventually).

I think the suggestion to use a dzus fastener or two might be a fairly inconspicuous way to secure the hinged door in the closed position. I assume you will only have a much smaller hole in the skin under your cover for the small furnace outlet. I would think that opening would be fairly easy to seal and then you would not need to worry about sealing the hinged cover to the outer skin.
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Old 09-19-2009, 07:15 PM   #426
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refer vent and other progress

The last month I've been getting school started, lots of 14 hour days with rehearsals etc, football games etc so haven't got much of anything done on the airstream, other than checking for leaks and fixing anything I run into since we've had a fair amount of rain days lately.

I found an hour or so today and finished clecoing in the bathroom wall lower panels that I replaced, since the aluminum was completely broken down at the bottom or so bent from the rear bouncing. Still have the kitchen lower panel to replace, material is sitting in the garage so I hope to find more time tomorrow to have that done, then just rivets to reinstall, and lots of sanding and stripping to finish prepping the inside for zolatone.

Hope to have the zolatone done by Mid-October.

Now onto the refrigerator vent. I would presume (please correct me if I'm wrong) that 63 refrigerator vent (fiberglass) was changed to the contoured plastic or metal version to provide better weather protection. This winter (noted in an earlier post) I repaired the fiberglass cover and reinstalled it on the roof, but the last several rains have been accompanied by large winds and I've found enough water to do long term damage over a wet season makes it under that cover and down into the scoop, then onto the floor.

Awhile back I picked up an original mid-60's vent that is made of aluminum that seems to better cover the space. Has anyone else encountered the water problem with the early style vent? Would an upgrade on this vent be distracting? I'm just concerned about finding rot in my floor in 5 years and want to prevent any means of water entry.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:28 PM   #427
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Around the World Plaque Artwork

The artwork is almost done as I had a bit of time today to work on it. Do we know the exact size of the round brass piece? I made the artwork the size of the file the earlier post so I'm hoping that it was an actual size scan. If it needs to be adjusted, that's easy enough to do.

I have about another 1/2 hour or so to finish it up. I want one of these too, but I don't think I'll mount it on the outside of the trailer. Maybe frame it for the inside.

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Thanks Brad, that could work out really cool. Let me know how I can help. Either way, still need to figure out how to make a round plate without the hole in the middle, but thinking I just need to find someone with a CNC router and go from there.
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Old 09-19-2009, 08:35 PM   #428
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Awesome Brad, just went out and measured the ghostlines of the old plate and they measure 4.5 inches.
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Old 09-19-2009, 09:24 PM   #429
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Hi Scott! How about if you rivet a longer piece of aluminum around the existinig "curb" that goes around the opening so that it would extend closer to the vent cover.. I too was wondering how to keep the rain out.. my Argosy seems to have a vent cover that "wraps" around lower to keep the rain from the curb.. but since you have the vent cover already, perhaps just making the curb higher would give the same effect?

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vent

Here's whats on the trailer now (first image), and what I presume is stock. It is barely wide enough to provide coverage, and noticed during heavy snow, the snow could actually fall through. Second image shows the newer style vent cover, is several inches "fatter" and rolls down. The width allows for the loss in air intake, while the roll down reduces the path for water. Have thought about cutting my existing cover down the middle and fiberglassing it wider, but not sure that really is in keeping either, plus its so weather beaten its on its last legs, without being completely reglassed and gel coated.
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The artwork is almost done as I had a bit of time today to work on it. Do we know the exact size of the round brass piece? I made the artwork the size of the file the earlier post so I'm hoping that it was an actual size scan. If it needs to be adjusted, that's easy enough to do.

I have about another 1/2 hour or so to finish it up. I want one of these too, but I don't think I'll mount it on the outside of the trailer. Maybe frame it for the inside.

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Any chance of getting a couple of these for my ATW Ambassador?
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panels going in

most of the lower metal was damaged (rivets were ripped out, not drilled out when cabinets were removed), and the bottom edge was completely rotted away. Wally found me some 2024 sheets that had been scratched in shipping that were only $50 each and will look perfect with a coat of zolatone. Still have more riveting to do, then back to stripping the top panels.

Hoping to have some time in the next week or so to finish prepping and zolatone around oct 18.
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Nice. I love the smell of fresh aluminum in the morning...
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Old 09-21-2009, 10:42 PM   #434
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The ATW Caravan logo art is done, just need to get is saved as a PDF document with each of the three colors on a page. So where do I send the file when done?

Here's a sample in black and white.

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Wow Brad you're good. Let me do some checking with the local sign shop and see if they would cut it. I know they weren't even interested in doing the part you've done. Do you have any good sign companies in your area? The sign company in question here is doing an equipment trailer for our marching band and wanted all graphics to be printed sent as a photoshop or similiar format.
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Thanks for the kind words. PhotoShop would leave the image pixelated and not with smooth edges. Adobe Illustrator is what the artwork was created in and most sign companies using a Gerber or similar type of vinyl printer that I've worked with in the past use this program. I still need to resize the image as well as create the appropriate file(s) to send.

I tried to attach a color version but it won't let me for some reason.

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Cool, I get what you mean on the pixelated version, thats what I was dealing with on the print I had done. That makes sense. I'll see what guys around here can, do, but smaller town, not really much to work with. I almost wonder if the company that makes the emblems for VTS might be willing to do a small run of a half dozen or so of these in enamel.
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I'll just bet the set up costs would be prohibitive if only doing a half dozen or so. Might be worth asking Steve at VTS what he thought.

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I sent Steve a note just in case. Any good Phoenix shops?
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A close friend of mine use to have a Gerber printer and he would make my vinyl requests. He has since sold his printer and moved away. I'll ask around and see what I come up with.

I'll let you know.

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