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Old 05-13-2024, 09:41 PM   #1
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The bike conundrum

Trailer is a 2019 22' Bambi Sport, tow vehicle a Tacoma with shell. I'd love to carry a couple mountain bikes along, I really miss riding on long trips. I thought I could do a roof type rack over the truck cab, but realize lifting them that high isn't practical or safe for me (another 6" above the cab to get into a rack). In the shell they would take up most of the cargo area. I can't really see hauling them inside the trailer either, like I've seen. A front hitch receiver on the truck and a rack there is possible; and then there is the Fiamma. I know and have heard the tales of rear mounted weight causing the dreaded sway; what is the current thinking, has anyone mounted a Fiamma on a 22' Sport? They're not ebikes, not nearly that heavy just 25-30 lb trail bikes. Thanks for any insight and experiences you may have had. Keep It Shiny!!
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Old 05-13-2024, 09:59 PM   #2
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Old 05-13-2024, 10:55 PM   #3
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Rubber side down
We have based on trip and needs.

First wiped bikes down, wrapped them in moving blanket / sheet or velo sock and place them inside leaned in a hallway.
It’s not perfect but an option when we don’t want to take bike rack or leave bikes outside.
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Old 05-14-2024, 04:44 AM   #4
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We’ll be carrying bicycles as well with our Bambi 19. I find the Fiamma to be functionally and aesthetically lacking, so have already ruled it out. Such a big awkward unsightly contraption yet it only carries two bicycles.

For now we will carry bicycles either in the open bed or in the cab (we can fit two bicycles in the Ridgeline cab with rear seats folded up.) For the future we are considering installing a front receiver on the truck or a rear receiver on the trailer for use with our existing hitch racks.

With a cap over your bed, and not wanting to use a roofrack, your options are limited. And with a Tacoma you are probably already bumping up against payload limitations if you haven’t already exceeded them. A rear receiver on the trailer might be your best option. Torqlift makes one specifically for Airstreams:

https://torkliftcentral.com/airstrea...ry-hitch-x8000

Another idea to consider is getting rid of the cap over your bed. Personally, I find caps to be very limiting and prefer an open bed. But in your case the cap is both using up precious payload capacity and making it difficult to cart along oversize items like bicycles. With an open bed you’d gain back some payload and could mount the bikes standing up or on a rack system over the bed. Anyway, it’s another option to consider…
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Old 05-14-2024, 08:53 AM   #5
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We did this to our Toyota setup:

We also tow a 2019 22' Sport.

We carry 2 x 12' Kayaks and 2 x "non electric" gravel bikes and a rooftop tent.

I like the side mounted bike racks as I can walk up to them and stick the bikes on without having to climb onto the truck.
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Old 05-14-2024, 09:10 AM   #6
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Had a Fiamma rack on all 4 of my AS's. Not a 22' or Bambi, however. I have seen them with Fiamma. To be sure, call AS factory folks and ask the question. Fiamma is the only rack AS recommends, due to the way it is secured to both the lower and structural frame. There is no movement with this bike rack, so not sure where you got the "sway" comment? Very secure. You can see the handlebars of the bike while driving in the rear camera...no sway, and bikes are tight against the back. Again, not sure about the 22' or Bambi, but I would surely call AS dealer or perhaps even try calling Colonial AS if no one posts experience here.
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Old 05-14-2024, 03:42 PM   #7
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We have had a Fiamma on our 19' Bambi since day one and while I am not wild about it...it has been fine - no sway with the trailer, bikes are not covered but never dirty and a bit of rain (we are form the Pacific NW), the rack and the bikes are secure and no big problems (access to the storage bin in a bit limited, the bikes barely fit on the "wheel gutters" which I wish were 2"-3" wider) and I can't see another option working for us. We always take our bikes (either mountain bikes or hybrid depending on where we are headed) and have done so for ten years.
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Old 05-14-2024, 07:22 PM   #8
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The problem with the Fiamma is that you can’t take the bikes to the trail without the trailer. I use a front hitch. We have E bikes. They are heavy and I have had no problems. They get a big buggy, but it takes minutes to clean them off. When it rains we put them inside.

Then I have a bike carrier when I just want to go to a trail and ride.
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Old 05-16-2024, 09:27 AM   #9
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We have had a Fiamma on our 19' Bambi since day one and while I am not wild about it...it has been fine - no sway with the trailer, bikes are not covered but never dirty and a bit of rain (we are form the Pacific NW), the rack and the bikes are secure and no big problems (access to the storage bin in a bit limited, the bikes barely fit on the "wheel gutters" which I wish were 2"-3" wider) and I can't see another option working for us. We always take our bikes (either mountain bikes or hybrid depending on where we are headed) and have done so for ten years.
Fiamma has "fat tire" rails. I bought 2 for my ebikes, along with the upgrade kit which will hold 175lbs now. The rails I was using on my mountain bikes prior to getting the upgrade kit. They are for 3.6" wide tires.
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Old 05-16-2024, 09:28 AM   #10
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The problem with the Fiamma is that you can’t take the bikes to the trail without the trailer. I use a front hitch. We have E bikes. They are heavy and I have had no problems. They get a big buggy, but it takes minutes to clean them off. When it rains we put them inside.

Then I have a bike carrier when I just want to go to a trail and ride.
When going to the "trail" we put our Rad Expand 5 folding bikes in the bed of the truck folded. Prior, with our TREK mountain bikes, we would just use the bike tarp over the tail gate and hang front wheels like you see others do, and run a strap thru the bikes and secure to the side load hooks. Works great also.
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Old 05-16-2024, 09:51 AM   #11
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Our e-bikes travel inside the trailer between the twin beds on a rack I made. It also works in the truck bed but without the front wheels installed which adds time when you get to the trail head.

This year I bit the bullet and got a QuikRStuff hitch rack that supports 120 lbs per tray. It’s all anodized aluminum, made in Grand Junction, CO. The rack comes with one tray and each add-on locks on and folds up making it easy to transport. The hitch mount has two aluminum pads that expand to lock it securely. I split a 2.5” reducer diagonally so it expands to take up the space. Works like a charm!

I can load the bikes in minutes now.

Not cheap but like the sign on the wall of our local butcher says “Cheap meat is not good, good meat is not cheap”!
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Old 05-16-2024, 09:25 PM   #12
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PB_NB- Does your tonneau cover allow access to the interior of the bed? How? Does it roll up or what? And the bike racks mount to cross bars attached to the bed sides? A good ;looking rig!
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Our e-bikes travel inside the trailer between the twin beds on a rack I made. It also works in the truck bed but without the front wheels installed which adds time when you get to the trail head.

This year I bit the bullet and got a QuikRStuff hitch rack that supports 120 lbs per tray. It’s all anodized aluminum, made in Grand Junction, CO. The rack comes with one tray and each add-on locks on and folds up making it easy to transport. The hitch mount has two aluminum pads that expand to lock it securely. I split a 2.5” reducer diagonally so it expands to take up the space. Works like a charm!

I can load the bikes in minutes now.

Not cheap but like the sign on the wall of our local butcher says “Cheap meat is not good, good meat is not cheap”!
Nice, can't tow with that bike rack, right? To me getting the bikes in/out of the AS while traveling is a hassle each night, especially if raining. Thats why I got the Fiamma upgrade kit for Ebikes...still, gain access to the rear compartment as needed, they are out of the way, and no issues moving around when traveling.
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Gypsydad, I considered the Fiamma but decided against it due to the weight and protection of bikes. I’ll deal with the hassle of moving them at night if we’ve got a multi-night travel to get to our destination.

Plus, I now have the benefit of being able to transport the bikes from the campground to a trailhead easily. We can also use it at home. Just another option.

Over the years we’ve had every bike combination from a tandem on top of an Astro Van to recumbent trikes in the truck bed. This is by far the easiest to load.
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Old 05-18-2024, 09:24 AM   #15
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Hi Dandyburger,

With the tent onboard. I can't open the cover. The bed on this truck is so deep and being a 6.5' length bed, it is very spacious. When I park the tent in the Winter, I will be able to open the cover and it opens from the rear and front of the bed sort of like a clam shell design.

To access it, I just open the tailgate and I can fill it up from there. I have a soft Bedrug so it keeps things from sliding around and allows me to kneel on it without wrecking my knees

I easily load and unload the truck bed this way and can fill it up with all sorts of camping gear.

The cover is a Diamondback SE
The racks up Uptop Midrise for Diamondback
The tent is a Cap-it Evergreen
The kayak racks are Yakima Jaylow
The bike racks are Yakima uprights (like the front loader).
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Old 05-18-2024, 10:24 AM   #16
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There are bike racks that can be mounted on the trailer tongue over the propane tanks. They will add to your tongue weight. The biggest problem I had with my second gen Taco was staying less than the factory recommended payload. I loved my Tacoma, but had to eventually upgrade to a F250 when we purchased a larger trailer.
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Old 05-19-2024, 09:23 AM   #17
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I vote inside the camper shell, out of sight, out of the elements, more secure, can unhitch an travel to a trailhead. I too tow with a Tacoma, although a BC20. After a couple CAT scale trips, I have learned that with myself, a passenger, a little gear inside the cab and two bikes in the bed I am at max GVW given the actual trailer tongue weight. So bikes are pretty much my only cargo in the truck and it works well, assuming your mtn bikes will fit well with the wider bars.
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My favorite for my Bambi is the Arvika bike rack… fits on the A-frame in the front. Does not affect rear trailer sway. Lightweight bikes don’t affect the hitch weight that much.

https://arvikabikerack.com/en-us/pro...ream-bike-rack

They are fitted for an airstream. Come in two parts. One attaches to the A-frame permanently, the other slides in and out of the holder to remove it so you can open your front window.
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Old 05-19-2024, 10:29 AM   #19
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Carrying ebikes

We carry a bike rack on the back of the trailer, so it is available if we have to drive to a bike path. The full size ebikes ride in the trailer. They fit up front along the gaucho, which leaves us room to make lunch and get to the bathroom. They are also easier to lift into the trailer, since you are only lifting half the bike through the door and then the other half. You could use a ramp too. A simple floor rack, some padding in key places with a float cushion and towels, some rope to secure the rear of the bikes and all is good. We bought locks and a larger than needed cover for the bikes when left outside at a campground.
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No back mounted racks

I don't use any type of back mounted racks either on the truck or trailer because of road grime. Any uncovered parts, during the rain get covered in road grime.
I have a hard cover fiberglass and found this suction cup system, Sea Sucker and love it. Can be used on any smooth surface. I have 25lbs mountain bikes and 15lbs road bikes, works great for either.
I use a couple of cables to lock them down and no permanent mounts or holes, super simple.
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