The 23D thread

[weirdstuff]

Question about tires....

We have a 2018 23D. Got it in October of 2017, so it's just over 4 years old. Since the tires are older than that, I'm guessing the tires are at least 4.5 years old.

At the end of this month, Pixie is going into the shop to fix the damage that was done when she got hit in her storage lot. We are thinking that we will have new tires put on at this time as well...just is easy to get it all done at the same time.

So...question is...what tires are recommended? I'm quite sure we have 15" tires.

[switz]

We got rid of the stock 14" GYM tires on our 2015 23D built in September 2014 at the selling dealership and installed 15" Michelins onto the OEM 10" drum brakes. That raised the trailer 1.2" which is beneficial for the plumbing clearance in the back. Used SenDel wheels with five lug pattern.

Michelin LTX (P) 235/75R15 XL tires 2,183 pounds @ 50 psi derated to 1,985 pounds 28.9" diameter 4 x 1985 = 7,940 pounds 4 x 2,183 = 8,732 pounds. Run at 44 psi.

Replaced tires due to new 3,600 pound Dexter axles with 12" dual puck disc brakes and built in 3" lift bars. New six lug SenDel wheels.

Michelin 235/75/R15 XL 109T Defender rating 2291 pounds sidewall rating @ 42 PSI derates to 2,044 pounds

Torque lug nuts to 95 ft pounds

Camping Ready our 23D scales 9 May 2016

Tongue………928
Front….1,280……1,246 - total front axle 2,526
Rear…..1,376……1,233 - total rear axle 2.609
Total Axles………5,135
Total Trailer….6,063

These 15" Michelin tires have a wider foot print than the GoodYear ST tires which provides for better braking and have a significant load safety margin with a softer ride for the trailer.

Personally would never put any GoodYear tire on anything that moves, not even a wheel barrow.

[Gotta_Travel]

Originally Posted by switz

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Personally would never put any GoodYear tire on anything that moves, not even a wheel barrow.

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[RFP]

We put on new Goodyear Endurance that year... Couldn't be happier.

[dbdreams]

The 2017s came with 15 inch wheels, 12 inch brakes. That was one reason I bought a new 23D instead of a used one.
Our 2019 had Goodyear endurance tires on it, they worked very well, never lost any air and were just replaced last week with a new set of endurance tires. They were showing some wear and one had a pretty good cut on it. Near as we can add up (I should keep better records) they wad about 40,000 miles on them..

[Rich W]

I wouldn't want to turn this thread into a tire thread. There are already a ton of those here, just search for them. But I will add an attachment on how to read the markings on a tire. The date code is especially handy.

Most agree that 6 years is the maximum age for a trailer tire, regardless of tread wear. Goodyear replaced the Marathon with the Endurance tire in 2017. A Marathon bought at that time would be about 4 years old now. Given the large number of blowouts reported here and the damage to the AS that a blowout costs, I would replace any Marathon. I chose the Endurance tire for my AS and my boat trailer.

[RFP]

Originally Posted by richw46

i wouldn't want to turn this thread into a tire thread. There are already a ton of those here, just search for them. < snip >

agreed !!

[weirdstuff]

Originally Posted by richw46

I wouldn't want to turn this thread into a tire thread. There are already a ton of those here, just search for them. But I will add an attachment on how to read the markings on a tire. The date code is especially handy.

Oh no, I don't want to either. Was just hoping for a couple quick answers/suggestions.

So thank you for your replies.

No need for any more tire ideas!!!

[Gerryo]

Sony Radio on my 2013 finally gave up the ghost, I need to replace it any recommendations and is there a plug and play replacement?

[RMNummi]

Fusion MS RA-770 Apollo. The best of the best.

[Rich W]

It's either DIN or double DIN, which references the radio height. I've replaced radios in my car and boat. Most of the connections are standard but you'll probably need to solder/twist cap the connections for power, speakers and woofer/sub-woofer. If you have some capability with electronics it's not a bad job. I got Kenwood for the car and boat. Crutchfield is excellent for reviews, prices, installation help, etc. https://www.crutchfield.com/

Car radios have 2 power connections. One is for radio power and the other is for memory, to remember your preferences and stations. Since you disconnect everything when you store your AS, you don't want that drain so it's best to just wire them together. Our AS is wired that way.

There are different mountings for radios. Google your model to see how it's installed and remove it and then the connections. Reverse the process to install, per manufacturer instructions.

[Gerryo]

Thanks for the advice.

[Gotta_Travel]

2022 model. Why in the hell did they strategically put the fresh tank drain directly behind the front wheel?? And that little plastic petcock is TIGHT! Yes that’s good but there’s tight and then there’s TIGHT!

[RFP]

Originally Posted by Gotta_Travel

2022 model. Why in the hell did they strategically put the fresh tank drain directly behind the front wheel?? And that little plastic petcock is TIGHT! Yes that’s good but there’s tight and then there’s TIGHT!

Is the tank in a different location than in previous year models? Got a photo?

Yep, the plastic drainy thingy is awful!

[Gotta_Travel]

Originally Posted by RFP

Is the tank in a different location than in previous year models? Got a photo?



Yep, the plastic drainy thingy is awful!

From in front of the front wheel looking back:


From between the two wheels looking forward. (I have no clue what the brass shutoff is for. I need to search my manual harder)

[subfan1]

Originally Posted by Gotta_Travel

From in front of the front wheel looking back:
Attachment 408574

From between the two wheels looking forward. (I have no clue what the brass shutoff is for. I need to search my manual harder)
Attachment 408575

Yes that is where our drain valve is located. We have a 2019

[RFP]

Originally Posted by Gotta_Travel

From in front of the front wheel looking back:
Attachment 408574

From between the two wheels looking forward. (I have no clue what the brass shutoff is for. I need to search my manual harder)
Attachment 408575

Yes, all that's the same as our 2014. The brass valve is one of your three low-point Drains.

Sometime before our first outing next year, I plan to do away with the plastic drain valve and replace it with a proper brass valve. Ronne (GMFL on the forum) did this some time ago; I think he posted the project earlier in this thread.

[GMFL]

Originally Posted by RFP

Yes, all that's the same as our 2014. The brass valve is one of your three low-point Drains.

Sometime before our first outing next year, I plan to do away with the plastic drain valve and replace it with a proper brass valve. Ronne (GMFL on the forum) did this some time ago; I think he posted the project earlier in this thread.

Thanks Ron,
Yes here are the Blog post for the drain swap.
https://www.airforums.com/forums/blo...lacement-2929/
https://www.airforums.com/forums/blo...t-part-2-2930/

[Gotta_Travel]

Originally Posted by RFP

Yes, all that's the same as our 2014. The brass valve is one of your three low-point Drains.

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Thanks RPF!
So I guess I’m a little dumb. Why do I need the plastic freshwater drain if I have a low point drain on the tank? The understand the other two - hot water and cold water - in the rear storage.

[GMFL]

Originally Posted by RFP

Yes, all that's the same as our 2014. The brass valve is one of your three low-point Drains.

Sometime before our first outing next year, I plan to do away with the plastic drain valve and replace it with a proper brass valve. Ronne (GMFL on the forum) did this some time ago; I think he posted the project earlier in this thread.

Thanks Rob,
Yes here are the Blog post for the drain swap.
https://www.airforums.com/forums/blo...lacement-2929/
https://www.airforums.com/forums/blo...t-part-2-2930/