The 23D thread

[weirdstuff]

Originally Posted by Genebuilder

I’m looking to downsize to a 23 but cannot decide which model. I like the bed set up in the FB but not the dinette. I like the seating arrangement of the D (CB) but not sure about the bed.
Would like to hear comments about the ease and feasibility (or not) of two older adults navigating the 48” wide, narrow entry bed.
Thanx in advance!

The corner bed sucks. We (two adults, age 60+) put up with it for almost 5 years. Now one of us sleeps up front in the lounge area, and we're happy again. We love our 23D, and have done trips as long as 6 months in it. The ability to lounge in the lounge or at the dining table, make it 100% better for us than the 23FB would have been. Also, our dog has more space and options for lounging in the 23D.

[pcskier]

Agree with weirdstuff. I can give you real world because I had a 23FB and sold it and switched to a 23d. I’m single. Even so, I hated the FB. Loved the bed and bath, could not live with the dinette. The only place to sit, not comfortable and a view of the kitchen sink. And nowhere for the pup to be out of the way and not underfoot.

The switch to the 23d was massive in terms of livability. With the lounge, it was so much more comfortable. If I were a couple, I’d do what weirdstuff and RFP (rob) do—one person sleep on the lounge. No need to even pull it out—just remove the back bolster cushion at night and it’s plenty big enough to sleep on. And plenty of room for a pup under the dinette.

Or For best of both worlds, get a 25’ that gives the lounge, bigger bath/shower setup, queen or twin bedroom, and a half foot wider.

[weirdstuff]

Originally Posted by pcskier

......one person sleep on the lounge. No need to even pull it out—just remove the back bolster cushion at night and it’s plenty big enough to sleep on. And plenty of room for a pup under the dinette.

Or For best of both worlds, get a 25’ that gives the lounge, bigger bath/shower setup, queen or twin bedroom, and a half foot wider.

thanks...I forgot to mention, that we actually removed the back bolsters from our trailer and we store them at home. So, as pcskier said, the lounge is plenty wide enough to sleep on without even pulling out the pull out. And this gives us more space during the day to put stuff, or for the dog to spread out on, etc..

And, oh yes... maybe just get the 25' trailer!! We got the 23 because that's the biggest we could fit in our driveway at the time. Otherwise, would have gotten the 25. But, now that we have the 23, we have no intention of upgrading.

[Rdavenp3]

My SeeLevel II fresh water sensor is randomly showing “Opn”, and I believe it may be a loose connection at the sensor. Has anyone opened the belly pan and can give me some pointers or share photos on the best way to get at the sensor?

[Nelson428]

Originally Posted by Rdavenp3

My SeeLevel II fresh water sensor is randomly showing “Opn”, and I believe it may be a loose connection at the sensor. Has anyone opened the belly pan and can give me some pointers or share photos on the best way to get at the sensor?

I had the same issue on my classic last year I had a water pump leak. The reason I share that is I never had a water leak on the water pump that was not in use. There is a check valve that fails in the pump. The water was leaking around the bypass dripping down on the sensor, giving me a false reading, that was my case. I know you case may be different however I would call Garnet and visit with them before I did anything. They are really great at helping you track down issues.

Garnet US Inc.
5360 Old Granbury Road
Granbury, TX 76049
Toll Free: 1-800-617-7384
Fax: 817-573-0005

[Rdavenp3]

Originally Posted by Nelson428

I had the same issue on my classic last year I had a water pump leak. The reason I share that is I never had a water leak on the water pump that was not in use. There is a check valve that fails in the pump. The water was leaking around the bypass dripping down on the sensor, giving me a false reading, that was my case. I know you case may be different however I would call Garnet and visit with them before I did anything. They are really great at helping you track down issues.

Garnet US Inc.
5360 Old Granbury Road
Granbury, TX 76049
Toll Free: 1-800-617-7384
Fax: 817-573-0005

Thanks. No leaks at the pump and the check valve is good. I’ve bounced my 23D down some rough roads and would be surprised if there wasn’t a loose wire.

[RFP]

Well friends, we've done it. Placed a "for sale" ad for Fortune Cookie. I've got to go be sad for a while.

Rob

[RedwoodDrmz]

hi All
i have an 08. i've had it almost 3 years. just this week there is a fan type sound emanating from under the fuse panel... is this fridge cooling? i have not had this issue before. it comes on approx every 30 mins and for about 20 seconds... then off! annoying. especially at night while trying to sleep. thoughts? i have not changed the fridge settings or anything...

[RFP]

Originally Posted by RedwoodDrmz

hi All
i have an 08. i've had it almost 3 years. just this week there is a fan type sound emanating from under the fuse panel... is this fridge cooling? i have not had this issue before. it comes on approx every 30 mins and for about 20 seconds... then off! annoying. especially at night while trying to sleep. thoughts? i have not changed the fridge settings or anything...

Yep, it's the cooling fan in your converter. Very likely just a nuisance-noise. The fan will eventually croak, you can deal with it then.

Or now (!) You can remove the screws holding the converter cover on and thenremove the screws holding the converter chassis to the wood cabinet front (it's a lot easier than it sounds). Then you can pull the converter out far enough to see the fan. Clean it thoroughly and see if it helps. That's about all you can do short of replacing the fan (or the entire converter).

[NO NOIZE]

Originally Posted by RFP

Well friends, we've done it. Placed a "for sale" ad for Fortune Cookie. I've got to go be sad for a while.

Rob

This is indeed a sad day, for more reasons than one. Sounds like it is time for a strong drink!

If you can not have one, I will have several in your homage. On second thought, hearing this news, I will have several one way or another .................

[centennialman]

Rob...you have been on my mind. I am sad, along with you and am grateful to you for the inspiration to purchase my own 23d International Serenity. Every time I come in the door I look around and am further inspired by your posts, ideas and advice. Please keep in touch here and let us hear from you.

[FloydCoVa]

Originally Posted by Rdavenp3

My SeeLevel II fresh water sensor is randomly showing “Opn”, and I believe it may be a loose connection at the sensor. Has anyone opened the belly pan and can give me some pointers or share photos on the best way to get at the sensor?

I would first remove the SeeLevel II from the wall ( there are four screws) and see if it starts reading correctly. Mine did. When I screwed it back to the wall it went wonky again, so I lined the back side with electrical tape the. Reattached it to wall and fixed the bad readings. Good luck

[FloydCoVa]

Rob, me too. I have been thinking a lot about you and Linda selling your Fortune Cookie. You have inspired me not only to perform my own repairs but also make it better. As you know I have followed you and taken your advice along he way. I want to thank you as every trip we taken Maine , UP Michigan, Grand Tetons/Yellowstone and now sitting in Dead Horse Point Utah have been flawless except for a couple of minor things. As you know I’m not the best wordsmith but I trying lo let you know I wish you and Linda the very best. Thanks Scott and Natalie aka floydcova.

[field & stream]

Rob — so sorry to hear that you are selling your perfected Airstream. Our first Airstream was a 23’ and I have been following this thread for years. I have always appreciated and enjoyed your positive attitude and creative solutions. I will continue to to think of you every time I open and close our curtains with your brilliant magnet fasteners!

Very best wishes……..

[Josephine517]

Originally Posted by Rdavenp3

My SeeLevel II fresh water sensor is randomly showing “Opn”, and I believe it may be a loose connection at the sensor. Has anyone opened the belly pan and can give me some pointers or share photos on the best way to get at the sensor?

Before opening the belly pan you may want to replace the display unit first. I had a similar problem start last year on our 2017. I got Opn error codes at times, erratic levels displayed sometimes, and at times seemed to work correctly. I tried cleaning the display contacts on the back of the unit with no success. I took a shot and replaced the display since that would be easier than removing the belly pan. The new display corrected the issue.

[RFP]

I am so grateful for the kindness, thoughtfulness, and encouragement from all of my great Forum friends... you are the best!

It looks like sweet "Fortune Cookie" will be going to a wonderful new home in Colorado! Steve ("Centenialman") put a couple of his friends in touch with me and the rest is history! Thanks, Steve!!

I suppose it says something about this 23D in that it sold in roughly 22 hours!

Knowing that it is going to a great new home does go a long way in making this easier for Linda and me!

[Nelson428]

Rob, it’s more like just turning the pace and reveals new chapter. I’m quite sure your adventures will continue …… just different. I wish y’all the best in the new chapter and adventures. I have been an avid reader and adaptor of your ideas.

Thanks for all the contributions and keep in touch.

[Rdavenp3]

Originally Posted by Josephine517

Before opening the belly pan you may want to replace the display unit first. I had a similar problem start last year on our 2017. I got Opn error codes at times, erratic levels displayed sometimes, and at times seemed to work correctly. I tried cleaning the display contacts on the back of the unit with no success. I took a shot and replaced the display since that would be easier than removing the belly pan. The new display corrected the issue.

Thanks! I’ll take a look into that since I really wasn’t looking forward to opening up the belly pan.

[Josephine517]

Originally Posted by Rdavenp3

Thanks! I’ll take a look into that since I really wasn’t looking forward to opening up the belly pan.

After the new display worked great for several trips, today after filling my fresh water tank for our next trip I got the OPn error code. I watched the display as I was filling. After the fresh tank read 100% I turned off the water and put my hoses way. Went back into the trailer and got the dreaded OPn on the fresh tank. Battery voltage readout is good, Grey and Black tanks read zero. I’ve tried to clear the error by disconnecting everything and reconnecting but no luck. Perhaps the new monitor isn’t the fix I was hoping it was.

[Josephine517]

Originally Posted by Josephine517

After the new display worked great for several trips, today after filling my fresh water tank for our next trip I got the OPn error code. I watched the display as I was filling. After the fresh tank read 100% I turned off the water and put my hoses way. Went back into the trailer and got the dreaded OPn on the fresh tank. Battery voltage readout is good, Grey and Black tanks read zero. I’ve tried to clear the error by disconnecting everything and reconnecting but no luck. Perhaps the new monitor isn’t the fix I was hoping it was.

Well… I decided to try a couple recommendations I read here in the forums with holding down the tank button and battery button at the same time to force the unit into DIA mode. No luck for me. I then decided to empty my fresh tank to try the DIA mode again but with an empty tank. Right after the tank went off full the monitor started to provide correct readings. So for now… it’s working. I hate dumb luck. I have no idea why a full tank would give a OPn error.