Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 09-23-2019, 11:51 AM   #3541
2 Rivet Member
 
Meriwether's Avatar
 
2017 23' International
Oregon City , Oregon
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 40
Quote:
Originally Posted by RFP View Post
Keith, Here's my experience with the wiring:

The first thing is to gain access to the 12 VDC wiring that's there in the three-switch panel: snap off the outer trim (fingernails will work just fine) and remove the four screws holding the switched in place.

Now you have both access to 12 VDC and you have a hole big enough to work through.

Then I pencil marked the wall at the very bottom of the lower cabinet. THat way, I could know just where my wire should exit and run to the LED fixture.

I removed the lower cabinet thereby gaining plenty of room to work.

Using a 1/2" spade bit, I drilled a hole just below my mark and and as far back as I thought practical. Now comes the fun part.

The hollow space behind the switches contains the plumbing vent for both the black and gray water tanks. That darned plastic vent pipe makes fishing the wire back to my 1/2" hole a bit fiddly.

Using a piece of uninsulated copper wire, I formed a loop of big "string," Scotch taping one side of the loop to the copper wire. When I put the copper wire (and it's attached string) into the hole, I fed the other part of the loop into the hole. If this has made sense, you can now visualize that I've got a piece of wire now inside the hollow space with part of it hanging down like a "lasso." THis gave me a big "target" to fish for.

I was then able to get a straightened wire coat hanger through the switch opening, past the vent pipe and back to where my "lasso" was hanging.

My coat hanger had a "L" bend about 3/8" long and I poked and twisted until I had captured the string. I was then able to pull the string out the switch hole. Success. I tied both of the ends of the string together so that neither end could slip back into the hollow.

The wire pulling was the easiest part of all.

So, that's my story, and I'm stickin' to it

Excellent description, this really helps! Since our trailer is stored 20 minutes away, to avoid wasted trips I have to plan my projects carefully.
__________________

__________________
Thanks,
Keith
--------------------------------------
2017 23D International Serenity
2014 1500 Silverado 5.3L
Meriwether is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2019, 11:55 AM   #3542
RFP
Rivet Master
 
RFP's Avatar
 
2014 23' International
Hurst , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by Meriwether View Post
Excellent description, this really helps! Since our trailer is stored 20 minutes away, to avoid wasted trips I have to plan my projects carefully.
By the way, Kieth, there was an unterminated (loose!) white wire lurking just inside the switch hole. Made for a good ground without having to ground my LED strip to the aluminum shell. If you don't easily see a loose white (ground) wire when you open yours up, you might dig around a bit... it's likely there.

Rob
__________________

__________________
2014 23D International Serenity - "Fortune Cookie"
2015 Ford F150 3.5 EcoBoost, Max Tow - "Cookie Monster"
And some stuff

Fortune Cookie: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57663633667345

"The Black Swan": https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57648991024725
RFP is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2019, 12:28 PM   #3543
3rd one is the charm?
 
pcskier's Avatar

 
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City , Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,490
Rob (RFP). Asking for someone. Where did you purchase your Wilsonart laminate? And also are the counter tops and table top Wilsonart as well? Thanks kindly.
pcskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2019, 02:50 PM   #3544
RFP
Rivet Master
 
RFP's Avatar
 
2014 23' International
Hurst , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier View Post
Rob (RFP). Asking for someone. Where did you purchase your Wilsonart laminate? And also are the counter tops and table top Wilsonart as well? Thanks kindly.
Actually, I bought it through Home Depot. Ordered it on their web site and picked it up a week or so later at my local store.
__________________
2014 23D International Serenity - "Fortune Cookie"
2015 Ford F150 3.5 EcoBoost, Max Tow - "Cookie Monster"
And some stuff

Fortune Cookie: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57663633667345

"The Black Swan": https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57648991024725
RFP is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2019, 02:54 PM   #3545
RFP
Rivet Master
 
RFP's Avatar
 
2014 23' International
Hurst , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier View Post
Rob (RFP). Asking for someone. Where did you purchase your Wilsonart laminate? And also are the counter tops and table top Wilsonart as well? Thanks kindly.
Yep, both new countertops are Wilsonart. The Wilsonart laminate that was original to the trailer has been discontinued. The pattern I selected is a near match, and it is from the same premium (expensive) product line.

If you need the pattern name, let me know... I'll try to dig it up.
__________________
2014 23D International Serenity - "Fortune Cookie"
2015 Ford F150 3.5 EcoBoost, Max Tow - "Cookie Monster"
And some stuff

Fortune Cookie: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57663633667345

"The Black Swan": https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57648991024725
RFP is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2019, 03:22 PM   #3546
3rd one is the charm?
 
pcskier's Avatar

 
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City , Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,490
Quote:
Originally Posted by RFP View Post
Actually, I bought it through Home Depot. Ordered it on their web site and picked it up a week or so later at my local store.


Thank you sir!
pcskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-28-2019, 03:29 PM   #3547
RFP
Rivet Master
 
RFP's Avatar
 
2014 23' International
Hurst , Texas
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 1,132
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier View Post
Rob (RFP). Asking for someone. Where did you purchase your Wilsonart laminate? And also are the counter tops and table top Wilsonart as well? Thanks kindly.
The patterns I use are:

Asian Sand - Wilsonart #7952 (factory pattern)

River Gemstone - Wilsonart # 1832
__________________
2014 23D International Serenity - "Fortune Cookie"
2015 Ford F150 3.5 EcoBoost, Max Tow - "Cookie Monster"
And some stuff

Fortune Cookie: https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57663633667345

"The Black Swan": https://www.flickr.com/photos/rfpd30...57648991024725
RFP is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 09:41 PM   #3548
2 Rivet Member
 
2013 23' International
Delaware , Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 39
Simple improvements to read bed storage area.

On to adjustments with storage arrangements.

We turned our attention to the rear bed, removed the bed platform and took a good look at all the wasted space and lack of access. We built a storage area in front of the hot water heater under the kitchen fresh water drain, gained access to the standard front access storage area from above, and access to the rear curb side storage area. We also added brackets to stiffen up and attach the vertical rear wall under the bed to the floor—it was not attached.

With a jigsaw, we cut three access holes in the bed platform and shored up the edges with angle aluminum.

We had already complete the work under the hot water heater. We placed Riv-nuts around the outer perimeter of the bed to wall. With it reinstalled, we can easily gain access by lifting up the sleeping mattress moving a cover and reaching in under the bed.

Jim k
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	14 Bed view 1.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	275.1 KB
ID:	353289   Click image for larger version

Name:	15 Bed view 2.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	279.8 KB
ID:	353290  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20 Bed front storage space.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	280.7 KB
ID:	353291   Click image for larger version

Name:	17 Bed view 4 with cover supports.jpg
Views:	33
Size:	237.5 KB
ID:	353292  

Click image for larger version

Name:	20.5 Bed Cutouts in shop.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	236.0 KB
ID:	353293   Click image for larger version

Name:	21 Bed cutouts with covers.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	171.8 KB
ID:	353294  

Click image for larger version

Name:	22 Bed covers in place.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	168.6 KB
ID:	353295  
__________________
2013, 23D International Signature
2015, Toyota Land Cruiser
Jim k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:00 PM   #3549
2 Rivet Member
 
2013 23' International
Delaware , Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 39
Access to lower storage area under kitchen sink

We turned our attention to the lower area behind the false wall under the kitchen sink. We drew a rectangle, put in pilot holes, punch bigger holes through the cabinet and cut out the area with a jigsaw. A bit of clean up and sanding and it looked good. We built internal wall structures to protect the wiring and LP gas line located in the back of the space.

We had no need for the trash can under the sink so we cut out a round circle in the trash can shelf which instead holds our Magma blue, ceramic/stainless steel nesting pot set. It is fairly heavy set and we did not want it moving around and we preferred having it sitting on the floor in a cabinet.

Jim k
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Under sink 1.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	221.8 KB
ID:	353298   Click image for larger version

Name:	Under sink 2.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	254.6 KB
ID:	353299  

Click image for larger version

Name:	Under sink 3.jpg
Views:	28
Size:	171.2 KB
ID:	353300   Click image for larger version

Name:	Under sink 4.jpg
Views:	31
Size:	270.1 KB
ID:	353301  

__________________
2013, 23D International Signature
2015, Toyota Land Cruiser
Jim k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:09 PM   #3550
Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
 
GMFL's Avatar

 
2014 23' International
Dadeville , Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,647
Images: 4
Blog Entries: 52
Jim,
Nice work. The under sink space I have been eyeing for quite some time.
P.S. Nice foam water heater support!
GMFL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:14 PM   #3551
2 Rivet Member
 
2013 23' International
Delaware , Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 39
Overhead kitchen storage solution

Here is something on the simpler side. We could not figure out a reasonable way to store our dishes, glasses, mugs and a few other things in the kitchen overhead. We tried a variety of solutions and nothing really fit well and worked well.

While looking around online someone recommended the following:

Sterilite 72508006 Ice Cube Bin, White, 6-Pack

This set sells for just over $20 on Amazon. We made the purchase and these bins fit the overhead perfectly. We can arrange plates and bowls vertically and they don't move. Glasses and mugs have separate slots and they don't move. Everything is easy to reach and is organized.

Here are a few photos of the 6-pack in place.

Jim k
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6385 2.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	150.1 KB
ID:	353302   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6383.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	167.0 KB
ID:	353303  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_6384.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	143.2 KB
ID:	353304  
__________________
2013, 23D International Signature
2015, Toyota Land Cruiser
Jim k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:23 PM   #3552
3rd one is the charm?
 
pcskier's Avatar

 
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City , Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,490
The 23D thread

Jim, I’ve been camping for 16 days and reading snippets but I can’t wait to read your posts in detail when I get home. Welcome to the thread you’re a great addition and NICE work!
pcskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:24 PM   #3553
2 Rivet Member
 
2013 23' International
Delaware , Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 39
Silverware drawer and knife solution

We have fairly simple cooking knife needs when camping needing a chef, paring, and bread knife. We wanted our knifes protected and not floating around and we could not find any storage system that was to our liking. We looked around the wood shop and found a nice oak scrap of wood. Within an hour we had it planed, cut to length, grooves cut for the knife blades with a table saw and ready for light sanding. Food grade oil finished it up nicely. We added a small block at the far end to hold it in place.

Jim k
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	26 knife storage.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	347.8 KB
ID:	353306   Click image for larger version

Name:	27 Knife storage in drawer.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	260.4 KB
ID:	353307  

__________________
2013, 23D International Signature
2015, Toyota Land Cruiser
Jim k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:28 PM   #3554
2 Rivet Member
 
2013 23' International
Delaware , Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 39
Quote:
Originally Posted by pcskier View Post
Jim, I’ve been camping for 16 days and reading snippets but I can’t wait to read your posts in detail when I get home. Welcome to the thread you’re a great addition and NICE work!
PCSkier,

Thanks. We were just out in Utah for a week on Cedar Mesa doing work and we were back in the Airstream! It was very nice. We got a lot done, but alas the travel trailer is back in storage and we are back at work.

Jim k
__________________
2013, 23D International Signature
2015, Toyota Land Cruiser
Jim k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-30-2019, 10:46 PM   #3555
2 Rivet Member
 
2013 23' International
Delaware , Ohio
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 39
Front rock guard splines were shot, easy cleanup and replacement

The splines in our front rock guard windows were sagging and were in terrible condition so we removed it in sections, cleaned up the tracks and replaced it with new spline material .22 size from The Home Depot.

We also replaced the window screens with new fiberglass screen material. These splining jobs were very easy to do with a spline tool and the results look great.

Our front screen window frame was a battered mess due to the inconsiderate way the self tapping screws were placed at the factory. We removed the frame and carefully hammered it straight utilizing blocks of wood. We drilled out the frame screw holes and the trailer window frame holes and installed stainless steel button-head bolts, washers and lock washers. It looks much better than before.

Here are some photos of the condition of the old splines and replacing the old with the new after cleaning. With a spline tool these were all very simple jobs.

Jim k
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	40 Rock Guard splines.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	301.1 KB
ID:	353308   Click image for larger version

Name:	42 Rock Guard splines replacement.jpg
Views:	19
Size:	359.2 KB
ID:	353314  

Click image for larger version

Name:	44 Spline material for front rock guards.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	378.3 KB
ID:	353316   Click image for larger version

Name:	43 using the spline tool.jpg
Views:	30
Size:	282.8 KB
ID:	353319  

__________________
2013, 23D International Signature
2015, Toyota Land Cruiser
Jim k is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2019, 06:05 AM   #3556
Wolfwhistle
 
Wolfwhistle's Avatar
 
Margaritaville , Banana Republic
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 515
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim k View Post
The splines in our front rock guard windows were sagging and were in terrible condition so we removed it in sections, cleaned up the tracks and replaced it with new spline material .22 size from The Home Depot.

Jim k
Thanks Jim. I cleaned windows yesterday and noticed the spline pulling out of the window rock guards at the corners and simply pushed it back in. Not sure if it was a good idea and pretty sure it won't hold, but I did apply Captain Tolley's to it (like I did all suspected hair line cracks around windows). I'll pick up some of that .22 spline you mentioned and do it right.

Clint
__________________
Ford and 23 FB IS
Wolfwhistle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2019, 07:14 AM   #3557
4 Rivet Member
 
eagletoo's Avatar

 
2020 23' Globetrotter
Long Island , New York
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 303
Jim,
The Sterlites work perfectly for the galley overhead “stuff”. Thanks for suggesting.
__________________
Bruce

2020 23’ Globetrotter FBT Natural Elm/London Grey
2018 Jeep Overland 5.7L Hemi

I’d rather be camping is an understatement!
eagletoo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 10-04-2019, 07:39 PM   #3558
2 Rivet Member
 
2019 23' Flying Cloud
South Lyon , Michigan
Join Date: Nov 2018
Posts: 23
Since we're not going to have a chance to camp again this year, I decided to winterize it for the first time (Just bought it new in March). When I connected the bypass hose to a jug of RV antifreeze and turned the pump on, I could hear the pump running, but it wasn't pulling any antifreeze out of the jug. I double checked the bypass valve was in the correct position and tried again. Nothing. That's odd, maybe something wrong with the pump. It worked fine a couple weeks ago, maybe there's an obstruction. I unscrewed the inlet hose from the pump, then put some air pressure (blowing into the bypass hose) and felt nothing coming out the end of disconnected water pipe, but did notice a rush of air back out of the bypass hose. Then it hit me, they must have installed the bypass valve backwards! I put a little bit of water in the tank, then I siphoned from the bypass hose with the valve in the bypass position, and sure enough, I pulled water from the tank. I'm hoping I can get into the dealer before overnight freezing weather hits, otherwise I'll be doing this fix myself. Overall though, only a few issues in our first season towing it over 5,000 miles and my wife an I are loving our 23 CB!
Rdavenp3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2019, 01:39 AM   #3559
3rd one is the charm?
 
pcskier's Avatar

 
2014 23' Flying Cloud
Park City , Utah
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 1,490
Second case I’ve heard of the factory installing a bypass valve backwards. I did it once myself.
pcskier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2019, 07:40 PM   #3560
Overkill Specialist
Commercial Member
 
GMFL's Avatar

 
2014 23' International
Dadeville , Alabama
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 3,647
Images: 4
Blog Entries: 52
While working on the install of my WeBoost RV65 set up I did some “gutting” of my Front over dinette storage cabinet. Removed the DVD/BluRay player and cabinet and also removed the two inside end caps gaining access to the area behind the stereo and “free space on the street side. There is a nice large chase behind the cabinet to run wires front one side of the trailer to the other. Here’s a few crud photos.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	5DC8B4BE-715A-44F0-B30C-EB542C024E28.jpg
Views:	27
Size:	195.9 KB
ID:	354127   Click image for larger version

Name:	6E2416EA-0AF5-46CB-9C5E-4A38955CB2E2.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	129.0 KB
ID:	354128  

Click image for larger version

Name:	336C2156-1F1D-42EE-8E45-ADD7B7672683.jpg
Views:	24
Size:	144.2 KB
ID:	354129   Click image for larger version

Name:	8EE5308A-17BB-4336-9C31-AFCAF5758A7C.jpg
Views:	17
Size:	164.4 KB
ID:	354130  

Click image for larger version

Name:	27200CA0-8B36-4FA5-AEB8-ADBCF530EA0A.jpg
Views:	21
Size:	316.2 KB
ID:	354131   Click image for larger version

Name:	056C73EE-08C6-4C06-A760-2CD29E6512BE.jpg
Views:	25
Size:	150.5 KB
ID:	354132  

Click image for larger version

Name:	245E7B58-5BA6-4DD5-965A-136CD3B5AB12.jpg
Views:	23
Size:	129.6 KB
ID:	354133  
__________________

GMFL is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
23d


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 3 (0 members and 3 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Secret doors on 23D CCD bolerama 2006 - 2010 International 24 04-05-2010 01:44 AM
2010 23d Int. Does this price sound right? Jezibels Buyer Guidelines 8 10-12-2009 07:49 PM
NEW 2007 International 23D Signature Series CCD 23' Colonial Airstream Commercial Listings 20 02-04-2007 10:48 PM


Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:11 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.