|
08-19-2013, 02:31 PM
|
#1
|
3 Rivet Member
1958 18' "Footer"
Danville
, California
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
|
Is it a '56 or '57 Caravanner
I just bought a 13 panel Caravanner. The problem is, the registered year is stated at 1963. The Serial # is 9134. The interior is like most '56 trailers that I have seen. It has no shower, no vanity in the dresser, no hot water heater.
If anyone has any ideas, or anyway I can show the DMV that they made a mistake would be very helpful!
Thanks!
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 02:41 PM
|
#2
|
Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 864
|
The vintage Airstream photo site shows the '57's starting at 9100. Mine is 9153, very close to yours and seems to look just like mine did when I got her.
Best model and best year, but most would disagree!
-steve
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 02:46 PM
|
#3
|
Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
1960 26' Overlander
1963 24' Tradewind
El Paso
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 945
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chlyman
I just bought a 13 panel Caravanner. The problem is, the registered year is stated at 1963. The Serial # is 9134. The interior is like most '56 trailers that I have seen. It has no shower, no vanity in the dresser, no hot water heater.
If anyone has any ideas, or anyway I can show the DMV that they made a mistake would be very helpful!
Thanks!
|
Nice trailer,can you show proof of serial numbers listed on the Airstream website and what year your trailer should be titled under?
Definitely a 57 and not a 63
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 06:15 PM
|
#4
|
3 Rivet Member
1958 18' "Footer"
Danville
, California
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
|
I did read somewhere that the 1956 didn't have showers and the vanity, but I think that was a restoration blog, nothing to back it up. The confusion was increased since as Steve says, the Photo Archives says '57 starts at 9100 but the '56 says that it goes up to 9158. So Steve, since you are a '57 at 9153 clearly that 9158 number is not quite right.
Thanks!!!
Carolyn
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 06:28 PM
|
#5
|
Rivet Master
1957 22' Caravanner
Port Hadlock
, Washington
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 864
|
I'd guess things were kinda fluid back then. There were things in my trailer dated in 1956, like the upholstery cushions. I know mine was sold as a '57 since I've spoken to the original owners, but it wouldn't be surprising if the trailer was actually made in late 56 and sold as a 57.
Anyway, it's a great model and it looks like you have a good shell to work with and at least nearly all of the windows.
cheers,
steve
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 07:16 PM
|
#6
|
4 Rivet Member
1955 22' Flying Cloud
mapleton
, Utah
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 464
|
Good luck getting the California DMV to admit they made a mistake about anything!!! You may have to try several offices to find a sympathetic (and intelligent) clerk. You might have better luck at an AAA office. Gather all the documentation you can find- the more official looking the letterhead is, the more bureaucrats seem to respect its validity.
tim
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 07:22 PM
|
#7
|
4 Rivet Member
1955 22' Flying Cloud
mapleton
, Utah
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 464
|
BTW- great looking rig. Yours has the interior I wish nine had, namely all intact please post lots of pics, they are extremely helpful to many of us!
tim
|
|
|
08-19-2013, 07:27 PM
|
#8
|
3 Rivet Member
1958 18' "Footer"
Danville
, California
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
|
I am going to start a restoration thread this week with lots of pictures! I know it is a long haul, and I am not done with my Traveler, so I guess, I am going to do the Caravanner first since I have all the parts.
Steve, I also have the fiberglass end cap in the front. Ugh!
I don't know where I could find the documentation for the DMV, but I will keep looking!
Thanks everyone!
Carolyn
|
|
|
08-20-2013, 11:15 AM
|
#9
|
Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
|
The detailing looks like our '56 Safari. Curved corner cabinets, gold veined marlite, VAT pattern, etc. Looks like you've got a nice trailer!
When we bought ours, it was registered as a '57 although, Airstream did no make a Safari in '57. Oftentimes, the year they were sold was later than the year it was built and they were registered - thus the confusion.
We took our trailer to the local Airstream Dealer and asked them to do a VIN verification based on the info we printed off from the Vintage Archives website. They did it for free, we then took that VIN verification form to the DMV and got our trailer registered as a '56 as it should be.
We did the same thing with our 1946 Curtis Wright Model 2 - it's paper work said it was a '47. Again, they weren't made in '47 and we found the documentation to back that up, took it to the Airstream dealer (post-war CW is sort of akin to an Airstream, 'cause Wally Byam worked there). They filled out a form and we were on our way to the DMV to get that one squared away too.
Shari
|
|
|
08-20-2013, 06:48 PM
|
#10
|
3 Rivet Member
1958 18' "Footer"
Danville
, California
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
|
Wow, amazing renovation Shari!! Thanks for the information. I am glad it was so easy to register both of yours with VIN Verification, I just need to find something that will help verify since the photo archive is not clear!
|
|
|
08-21-2013, 10:59 AM
|
#11
|
Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
|
I would choose whichever you want ('56!) and just take that info with you - they aren't going to get that technical by looking it up themselves...at least with us. They just looked at what we brought supporting what we had. If you want it to be a '56 then just take the '56 info if you want it to be a '57, then just take the '57 info.
Look for clues in the other models for the same years to help you determine...'56 is the year they had those curved corners & gold-veined cabinetry as an option...thats what we ha(d)ve.
Good luck regardless!
Shari
|
|
|
08-21-2013, 11:50 AM
|
#12
|
2 Rivet Member
1957 22' Caravanner
1971 27' Overlander
2004 25' Safari
Jourdanton
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 50
|
Another data point. We own a 1957 Caravanner with serial number 09230.
The interior looks just like ours with the rounded corners and the gold veined sliders and lighting fixtures. It has the plastic front interior end cap.
I see two differences. One is the drawer under the bed. Mine is a narrow drawer that opens toward the front of the trailer. The other is that mine had an electric refrigerator with no exterior vents.
Jim
|
|
|
09-12-2013, 07:37 PM
|
#13
|
Rivet Master
1964 26' Overlander
1974 31' Sovereign
Milton
, ON
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,225
|
Nice trailer! I just tried to buy one like it that was in the woods of Michigan, but was outbid. Probably just as well. Yours looks to be in great shape.
|
|
|
09-12-2013, 11:03 PM
|
#14
|
3 Rivet Member
1958 18' "Footer"
Danville
, California
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 119
|
Looks can be deceiving!
|
|
|
04-26-2023, 07:00 PM
|
#15
|
New Member
1956 22' Caravanner
2023 22' Caravel
Eminence
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 4
|
I have 09143 and it is registered as a ‘56. My understanding is that the years are very sketchy as some that were produced in ‘56 might not have made it to registration until ‘57 etc…Fluid situation I suppose.
|
|
|
04-27-2023, 09:28 AM
|
#16
|
4 Rivet Member
1976 Argosy 24
1961 28' Ambassador
1968 26' Overlander
Lakewood
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 409
|
Nice rig, I would buy one if I found one. Through the years I've had title issues with several trailers, I often buy them because others are scared off. Here in Colorado we have a "certified VIN inspection" which is done by the State Police and can address all manner of problems. DMV has to accept what they say. Maybe CA has something similar. At some point though, if they'll give me a title I don't care what they call it, I know what it is.
Good luck, Mark D
|
|
|
10-10-2023, 10:02 PM
|
#17
|
New Member
1956 22' Caravanner
2023 22' Caravel
Eminence
, Kentucky
Join Date: Apr 2023
Posts: 4
|
I have 9143
Hi, I have Ohio 9143. It is definitely 1956. Happy to provide evidence. Lemme know.
|
|
|
10-18-2023, 12:34 AM
|
#18
|
Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
|
O9134 was built the week of 10/31/1956 which clearly makes it a 1957 Airstream built in late 1956. It was delivered thru the dealer Marine Mart Trailer Sales in Orient, OH (near Columbus).
The 1957 model year began in the Ohio Airstream plant at the beginning of September 1956. The first 1957 Caravaner was serial number O9094 built the first week of September 1956. This is based upon actual Airstream production records that are not publicly posted.
__________________
Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
|
|
|
10-18-2023, 12:39 AM
|
#19
|
Rivet Master
1962 22' Safari
2016 30' Classic
Southeast
, Michigan
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 2,987
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chumbucket
Hi, I have Ohio 9143. It is definitely 1956. Happy to provide evidence. Lemme know.
|
Based upon my previous post, your O9143 is definitely a 1957 model. It was built the week of 11/28/1956 and was delivered thru Murphy Sales in Mt. Sterling, KY.
__________________
Joe
Wally Byam Caravan Club International Historian
Vintage Airstream Club Historian
WBCCI/VAC #702 & #6768
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
Recent Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|