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Porky Pig · 11-29-2003, 03:05 PM

Congrats on the new AS, Jack.

Nice to hear that you had no major issues ... sounds like you have a pretty good dealer too.

Looks good on the outside ... now let's see the inside!

Silvertwinkie · 11-30-2003, 08:49 AM

Nice unit Jack!

Glad finally got it...you were Airstreamless there for a bit.

I wanted to share an observation I made this past weekend while we were visiting Brandi's family for the holiday.

Brandi's uncle bought an SOB motorhome. I believe it was called a Hurricane. I had never seen it, so he took me on the tour (he also built a huge pole barn to put it in---really nice!).

Anyway, upon getting to the door of the coach, what do I see?

A THOR STICKER ON THE SIDE!

The unit was a 2001. I found several similarities between the Hurricane and my limited knowledge of Airstreams.

First, the interior was not exact, but pretty darn close to some of the interiors of the Airstream line.

Second, the lighting fixtures are the exact same inside the unit as well as some of the woodworking.

Not at all unusual for a HUGE RV manufacturer.

The part that I found VERY interesting was the fact that he has damn near the EXACT same QC issues we here have all been talking about. Leaks from the roof, fit and finish issues with the cabinetry, etc.

Normally, being an SOB, I would just say, yup...sounds about right, however, I would start a sentence with my 2003 issues, and he'd finish it....and the other way around.

Just found it very interesting.

Eric

joshua32064 · 11-30-2003, 09:32 AM

Jack,

The new coach looks great. I hope that you and your family have many wonderful trips with it.

Josh

Silvertwinkie · 11-30-2003, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Porky Pig
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Airstream informed me that mine goes into production during "late December" ... which means it will be assembled by drunk employess who don't want to be there.

Oh my...I just caught this and had to walk away from the computer for a few minutes to compose myself....

Eric

rcaldwel · 12-01-2003, 06:45 AM

Folks,

We have made two road trips to date in our new '04 25' Safari model A. Nothing like living in it to find out how everything is put together. I can report that we are extremely happy with our coach. Build date was april '03. The only thing we found to date is that there was a piece of trim in the bathroom corner on the toilet side that was loose. I will have to say that compared to our '01 Bambi, this is very roomy and tows very well. Backing is much easier with the longer trailer and dual axles. Overall, very happy with it.

Bob Caldwell

**jcanavera** · 12-01-2003, 08:29 AM

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Originally posted by rcaldwel
We have made two road trips to date in our new '04 25' Safari model A. Build date was april '03.
Bob Caldwell

Whoa! This is an early one! I remember my '01 Safari was built mid April '01. Supposedly model change over was to start in May. I have seen a few very early model year units which are titled as new year units but supporting some graphics and trim of the previous years. One specifically being an '02 Classic sporting the '01 stripes and 70th anniversary logo that appeared midships on all '01 units.

Jack

Pahaska · 12-01-2003, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by jcanavera
One specifically being an '02 Classic sporting the '01 stripes and 70th anniversary logo that appeared midships on all '01 units.

Jack

I have the 70th anniversary logo plaque midships on my 2003 Classic built in April of this year. They must be using them up till they run out of them.

Mine was built in April and is a 2003 with 2003 trim, full carpet, etc. The cutoff must have been sometime during that month. It might hinge on when the order was put in.

Silvertwinkie · 12-05-2003, 03:07 PM

Just got an email from the dealer! A Safari 25 C that fits the description just appeared on the dealer lot!

I'll be off to pick it up soon!

Now Pork, this is where I don't sleep now.......knowing it's there and not being able to pick it up right now!

Eric

**jcanavera** · 12-05-2003, 05:14 PM

Oh my oh my! How's the snow up there? I heard Ohio was due to get some.

Jack

Porky Pig · 12-05-2003, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Silvertwinkie
Now Pork, this is where I don't sleep now.......knowing it's there and not being able to pick it up right now!

Eric ... I hope the weather cooperates ... when are you going?

crazylev · 12-05-2003, 07:19 PM

Eric.

Congratulations on the birth of your Safari. I actually knew you would be getting yours sooner than later after talking with Jerry, but he told me not to tell you, just in case it did not come in earlier than expected. Seems like a nice enough guy, but I (we) await a full report from you on your adventures of procurement/inspection. Pam and I are set on the 19' CCD, so it is not if, but when...

Be careful of weather and snipers near Columbus...I hear they are really bad at this time of year!!!

Let us know when you go, so we can leave a coach-light on for you on your return.

Love and kisses.

Jonathan

Silvertwinkie · 12-05-2003, 10:25 PM

I'll be leavin in a week or two to go collect the new baby...

I will for sure post and let you all know what I find, plus pics of the factory as we'll be taking the tour and staying at the factory campground at least one night, maybe more (depending if I find anything).

The weather over the next few weeks is kind of touch and go, but I'll be taking a full week off just in case. I won't be in any speed record to get home.

Eric

Happycampers · 12-05-2003, 10:46 PM

Congratulations on your new baby.. enjoy and hope there is no surprises on inspection. The factory tour is great.. we did that this summer.. Annie 1976

**jcanavera** · 12-06-2003, 10:34 AM

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Originally posted by Silvertwinkie
I'll be leavin in a week or two to go collect the new baby...

Eric

Oh wow, so near but yet so far.

For those of you who have '04 Classics on order or just delivered,
I just got a email from Airstream regarding some questions I had on the faucets, heat pump, and thermostat.

First the heat pump will turn off at 24 degrees and switch to the furnace, then at 34 degrees it will change back to the heat pump.

Apparently you get no manual for the thermostat but if you call Dometic they can get you one.

Finally for those who like to fill out the waranty cards, the models of the Moen faucets are:
Kitchen sink - MDL 7030W
Bath sink - L4720CP
Shower - MDL TL2391CP

Jack

frozen chosen · 12-06-2003, 11:43 AM

silver T, congrats! Are you buying the rig from the dealer, but picking it up at the factory or what? RE: staying in the AS campground got me confused; if you find any glitches, do you work thru the dealer or the factrory?

Silvertwinkie · 12-06-2003, 02:08 PM

I bought from a dealer close to the factory. Should I find any issues, I plan on being at the factory anyway so I'm gonna plan on having the factory deal with any issues the dealer might miss (if there are any issues).

I'll post everything from nuts to bolts once I return.

Eric

**jcanavera** · 12-06-2003, 08:14 PM

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Originally posted by jcanavera

First the heat pump will turn off at 24 degrees and switch to the furnace, then at 34 degrees it will change back to the heat pump.

My dealer said that the heat pump was good down to about 40 degrees. I think he is right on that one. It was 32 degrees this evening and I brought the trailer up to 60 degrees with the furnace. I went to the heat pump and had 90 degree air coming out of it, but the trailer was slowly losing temp.

Obviously with the factory information above, at least with a 30' slide out and the 15K air conditioner, you probably will be using the furnace long before the outside air temps get down to 24.

Jack

Pahaska · 12-07-2003, 01:16 PM

It was down to just below freezing the last two nights. The heat pump kept the trailer comfortable at a 68 degree thermostat setting the first night and most of last night.

About 4 am this morning, I was awakened by what I first thought was the sound of a loud engine nearby. It progressively became louder and about the time I awakened enough to realize that the noise was coming from the heat pump, the circuit breaker over the bed opened with a loud snap and the noise stopped. I suspect that the compressor may had failed and locked up. I got up and changed the heat control to furnace for the balance of the night.

This was my second trip with the new trailer and about the 5th night that the heat pump has run for a substantial amount of time.

The good news is that the heat pump will keep the 25' trailer quite comfortable at and below freezing. It probably ran less than 40% of the time at about 30 degrees. I switch to furnace for a short while during morning shower time since the furnace directly heats the bathroom.

I don't consider this an Airstream quality glitch since it is a purchased part and will be fixed under warrenty. It is just an unfortunate early failure of a component common to many makes of RVs.

gklott · 12-07-2003, 04:29 PM

We've had good luck with out 15,000 BTU HP in our 2004 30' Classic. When in Flagstaff a few weeks ago, it got down to 20 degrees. The HP ran until it need the furnace. it switched over flawlessly. Most nites, in other locations, temps in the 30's and 40's, it provided excellent service.

We also are quite satisfied with the HP option. Recommend it to everyone.

73/gus

**jcanavera** · 12-07-2003, 05:34 PM

I guess the slide out adds just enough volume to overwhelm the capacity of the heat pump once the temperature gets down to freezing. At that point I really want the furnace running anyway to make sure the that the water components are getting their share of the heat. The heat pump doesn't provide anything to those areas.

Jack