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Old 12-18-2018, 12:33 PM   #21
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I’d have my wife drive the rig, and I ride the Harley. Problem solved ��

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Old 12-19-2018, 09:18 AM   #22
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Hauling a harley

We use a Mercedes Sprinter 3500xd with a towing capacity of 7500 lbs (4x4 diesel dually) and tow a 25 ft flying cloud, (our23 ft flying cloud was totaled in a hailstorm 6-14-2018)
I use a ez riser 3-piece aluminum ramp and haul a Harley Softtail, My wife and I full time as of Aug. 3rd 2017.
I am maxed out on my GCVW but have had no trouble putting 35k miles on the rig. I can safely ride into and back out of the sprinter and the whole process adds little time to standard set up procedures in campgrounds and my bike could not be more secure.
We went from a 16,000 lb fifth wheel to a 7,300 lb airstream and would do the same, if we had to do over, Best Decision we could have made for our philosophy of use.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:43 AM   #23
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Dont do it!

Now that I gave your attention, I, too, worked through this samw situation years ago. SUMMING up, I now gave a Duramax HD wirh winch powered carrier to load thw FLHTCU.
The 1500 will make you think everything is great until you get several hundred miles from home, and you're overloaded rear tire or tires pop! Not funny. A 2500 or larger truck is pretty much required, a good load distributing hitch required (most factory hitch receivers are mush) to distribute load to the front axle. E rated tires, max speed at 70 with normal at 65 to prevent heat buildup and allow for evasive actions during emergencies is wise.
I have done this exact thing towing 31' Airstream many thousands of (happy)miles with no regrets. Common sense prevails- if in doubt, dont do it!
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:45 AM   #24
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I have a medium roof Transit 250. Have the 3.5 eco boost get cargo version with drivers side door. 6900 lbs towing. Use 2 ramps for loading. One to walk and one for bike. Can’t tell my Tradewind is behind.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:45 AM   #25
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I have several bikes and ALWAYS take one with me when I drag my 25 FB Safari. My BMW and my Harley are about the same weight but the truck handles two bikes & the trailer quite well but then I have an F350 SRW diesel.

I use a power loader that I built out of a surplus Uhaul loading ramp ( good for 2500 lbs with a couple of rails mounted in the bed ( with rollers like they use for moving material in warehouses). I mounted a Harbour Freight 5,000 lb winch in the front of the bed and simply put the bike in a wheel choke mounted on a "dolly" that rolls up the ramp. Then pin the dolly to the ramp and winch the ramp into the back of the truck.

It cost me a bit over $500 for the whole rig and works great.

I think you'll be a bit "over limit" with a F150 but a 3/4 ton would do the trick.

Also here in Texas ( and in some other states) you can tandom a trailer behind the AS.

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Old 12-19-2018, 02:36 PM   #26
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Kris and kimmie towed their massive, heavy Avion to tour Alaska (from Los Angeles). They have a big diesel pickup and use a ramp and a winch (behind the cab?) to take their motorcycle with sidecar along, on a platform in the bed, under which they stow the ramp and more gear. I don’t know if they’re on this forum; doubt. They take the moto-sidecar with them often when they camp.
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:49 PM   #27
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Going to be tough to put that bike in the bed of that F150 and then pull that 25’ trailer. A 3/4 ton would be in order.

P.S. I’m not trying to be the 3/4 ton truck guy. It’s just the payload of that 150 will be beyond maxed.
My calcs show a F150 with max payload set up can handle my 900 lb Indian, 200 lb winch based loader, tongue weight of 28ft AS, and 600 lb of people and gear. Am I missing something?
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Old 12-19-2018, 05:58 PM   #28
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Any problems/concerns with raising the CG of the bike by the height of the loader deck?
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:13 PM   #29
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Leave it at home.

I think I can speak for at least a few of as. We'd prefer you leave the Harley at home...unless you have left the original exhaust in place. The last thing I want to hear in my camp is a loud bike.

Thanks for your consideration!
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Old 12-19-2018, 06:39 PM   #30
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I remember a detailed discussion on this very issue back in September, entitled "F350 Limited or F450 Limited" and after lively debate, the consensus was to go with an F350 Limited. It makes interesting reading. At no point was an F150 even considered as a tow vehicle for a 1000lb Harley + 300lb lift + 900lb TW + 600lbs of passengers + 300lbs fuel.
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Old 12-19-2018, 08:17 PM   #31
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The height change on mine is only 7" and the TV I have presently is a SRW 3500 GMC Sierra, exhibits no noticable effects. It was the same with the previous 2500HD. The area that it will make the most change is in the instance of emergency braking. If the trailer braking is set up properly and the truck brakes are in good shape, stopping distance is still good. In my opinion, this is the area least understood or addressed by us as a group.
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Old 12-19-2018, 09:34 PM   #32
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My calcs show a F150 with max payload set up can handle my 900 lb Indian, 200 lb winch based loader, tongue weight of 28ft AS, and 600 lb of people and gear. Am I missing something?
Yep,
2005 F150 5.4 payload 1670lbs
HD Electro Glide wet weight 889lbs
2003 25’ Safari tongue weight 680lbs

1670-889=781
781-680=101
101- you, your wife and any gear =?
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Old 12-20-2018, 05:06 AM   #33
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I have a Ram 3500 and tow a 34' Classic. I use aluminum ramps and they give me a platform 47" wide and 10' long so that I can ride up the ramp and keep both feet on the ramp as needed. When I had a Road King, coming down the ramp I put it in 1st gear with the engine off and used the clutch as a brake as well as the front wheel brake. I had a windshield on the Road King that came off in seconds so it wasn't catching wind above the cab.
At the same time I had the Road King, I also owned a Suzuki Burgman 650cc scooter. Since it is automatic and weighs just 630 lbs., it is much easier to load because you don't have to slip a clutch going up the ramp. It also had more storage than the Harley. We now use it every time we travel. It is perfect for getting around in cities or for nice rides through the countryside. Top speed is well over 100, which is way faster than I go these days. I would prefer the Harley for a long trip, but that's when it is in the back of the pickup truck. The dual real wheels on the truck gives me stability even if I just drop the hitch on the ball. I do use leveling bars on interstate highways because it evens out the ride when you hit those big bumps in the road.
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Old 12-20-2018, 06:51 AM   #34
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Yep,
2005 F150 5.4 payload 1670lbs
HD Electro Glide wet weight 889lbs
2003 25’ Safari tongue weight 680lbs

1670-889=781
781-680=101
101- you, your wife and any gear =?
Thanks much. I see for the 2019 F150 with bigger eco boost engine :

Maximum Payload
(When properly configured)
3,270 lbs

Dilemma for me is what loader to use.
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Old 12-21-2018, 06:01 AM   #35
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Thanks much. I see for the 2019 F150 with bigger eco boost engine :

Maximum Payload
(When properly configured)
3,270 lbs

Dilemma for me is what loader to use.
Properly configured means regular cab and 2wd. Still an impressive number for what they are calling an F150.
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Old 12-21-2018, 09:12 AM   #36
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I think Super cab with 8ft bed and 20 inch wheels and max tow package get you there too. Just need $50K.
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Old 12-22-2018, 09:28 AM   #37
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long wheelbase and the better weight capacity on 3/4 ton.
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