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12-06-2024, 07:20 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2023 23' Flying Cloud
Another
, World
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Airstreem.
I wonder if they come with "American Bomb" tires. I also don't believe that Airstream has any control of anything that is manufactured in China. Looking at the pictures, they are, without a doubt, NOT competition for Airstreams.
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12-06-2024, 07:25 AM
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Rivet Master
2024 30' Flying Cloud
Oak Park
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NutmegsCamper
Airstreem.
I wonder if they come with "American Bomb" tires. I also don't believe that Airstream has any control of anything that is manufactured in China. Looking at the pictures, they are, without a doubt, NOT competition for Airstreams.
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Completely agree, I can't see any rational person considering these. Just looking at the pictures seems like a hack job at best.
If offered for sale in the US as some of these appear to be, and they apply the Airstream name to it, I've gotta believe that Airstream, if not Thor itself wouldn't have something to say about some of these.
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12-06-2024, 08:52 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2018 27' Globetrotter
Elbert
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Particularly since they are selling on an American site and calling them "Airstream" instead of "Airstream-like".
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12-06-2024, 09:46 AM
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Site Team
1994 25' Excella
Waukesha
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I would expect that Airstream will bring legal action against any platform which allows items to be advertised using their name without permission. Since they likely have a trademark in multiple countries I'm sure that they've already started doing this with platforms like Amazon.
There's likely no limitation to people making and selling similar-looking trailers, but when they start to use the Airstream name in the product listings it probably crosses the line legally.
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12-06-2024, 10:21 AM
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
palm beach gardens
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I've seen a couple of these in different countries and here. I was trying to figure out what was going on. Thank you for posting this, I am sure Airstream will or already has been involved.
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12-06-2024, 10:22 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 25' Globetrotter
2021 16' Bambi
Forest Lake
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I wouldn't expect this to be on Amazon for very long if Airstream gets wind of it. Most companies defend their trademark and brand to the death. Anything not a genuine Airstream labeled Airstream cheapens the brand in the least.
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12-06-2024, 10:57 AM
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3 Rivet Member
2017 23' Flying Cloud
2023 27' International
Mesquite
, Nevada
Join Date: Jul 2019
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China enforcement
When the US government stops China from exporting fentanyl they can focus on bogus Airstreams.
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12-06-2024, 10:59 AM
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3 Rivet Member
1960 26' Overlander
Tipton
, Iowa
Join Date: Jan 2007
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I would think this is copywrite infringement. I wonder if legally they get away with it since the sale is over the internet and they have "no control" over where the customer decides to ship it.
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12-06-2024, 01:08 PM
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Rivet Master
2013 25' Flying Cloud
Wheaton
, Illinois
Join Date: Aug 2014
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From the Legal Notice linked to from every page on the Airstream website,
“ The AIRSTREAM name, the configuration and appearance of the AIRSTREAM® recreational vehicles, product brand names (including BAMBI®, LAND YACHT®, SAFARI® and others) and all other trademarks and logos appearing on this Website are owned or used pursuant to license by AIRSTREAM, INC. and/or its affiliates. The unauthorized use of these trademarks and logos is strictly prohibited, and you agree that you will not use these trademarks or logos in any way that suggests affiliation with, sponsorship by, or approval by AIRSTREAM, INC. without its express, written permission. If you have questions regarding AIRSTREAM trademarks, or for licensing information, contact AIRSTREAM, INC.’s Office of Sales and Marketing.”
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12-06-2024, 01:17 PM
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19’ Bambi Flying Cloud
2017 19' Flying Cloud
Airstream Coach - Other
Husqvarnia
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It’s possible they purchased a license to use the Airstream name. Not likely, but possible.
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12-06-2024, 01:20 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 23' Flying Cloud
Portal
, Arizona
Join Date: Jul 2022
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Not that I approve but years ago I created a series of exhibit products for a Chinese firm. During the meetings they said "Charge us a lot as we will copy your designs and sell them all over Asia." I did but it was up front. Knock off is theft and I hope Airstream is on them, or sold them the rights. Chevy leadership found the Asian market so lucrative that they moved headquarters to China. It is all a mess and general clients and products are what take a beating.
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12-06-2024, 02:49 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
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Join Date: Oct 2021
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Thanks for sharing. It looks like a knock off, but the price is a dead giveaway for the quality. Probably lots of staples, cheap hinges, etc......Don't know for sure, but some people will buy just for the price. You get what you pay for.
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12-06-2024, 02:53 PM
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3 Rivet Member
2016 26' Flying Cloud
2016 20' Flying Cloud
St Petersburg
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sfranklin
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These, or some very like them, started popping up a few years ago, then they disappeared...maybe Airstream/Thor gave them what for... Probably will happen again...
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12-06-2024, 04:39 PM
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Rivet Master
2023 25' Globetrotter
2021 16' Bambi
Forest Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Mar 2021
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BikeCamper
It’s possible they purchased a license to use the Airstream name. Not likely, but possible.
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Much as we disparage Airstream quality here, I don't think any company would sell their name and have no control over the product and its quality unless it's a branded pencil or something.
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12-06-2024, 05:52 PM
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2 Rivet Member
2020 16' Bambi
Port Hueneme
, California
Join Date: Jan 2020
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There is a Whole Foods(the only on I've ever been in) in Oxnard, CA that has converted what appears to be a 30+/- Ft Airstream inside the store into a food concession stand. The make sandwiches, serve salads etc. Now I'm going to have to go by the store and take a closer look.
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12-08-2024, 10:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1966 17' Caravel
1972 21' Globetrotter
SW
, Missouri
Join Date: Aug 2020
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I welcome the competition. They don't show what is under the skin though. I think Airstream has dropped the ball big time by not producing a lightweight camper built in the traditional airstream monocock construction. Trying to pass off a basecamp for that market is lame. Gen Z and the Millennials need a buy it for life airstream they can afford. Minimal, lightweight interiors are a must. It does not need to luxurious, it needs to be long lasting, lightweight and functional.
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12-10-2024, 04:12 PM
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1 Rivet Member
2020 25' Flying Cloud
San Antonio
, Texas
Join Date: Oct 2021
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Yours is an interesting and reflective answer. AS is more than likely looking at the future, and they should be looking at how GenZs are going to look at the camping/rv future. I love my basic 25' Flying Cloud. It could use a few quality improvements but I'll address those directly with AS.
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12-11-2024, 10:14 AM
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Half a Rivet Short
2017 30' Classic
2022 Interstate 24X
Carlisle
, Pennsylvania
Join Date: May 2017
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Hi
Regardless of the outfit, clones and copies pop up all the time. Go shopping for clothing on Amazon and elsewhere ... see what you find. It's hardly unique to China. It comes from a lot of places (including some in the US).
I'd bet that somewhere at a law firm there is indeed somebody watching this stuff and billing AS for that time. They likely also are typing up letters / sending them out and putting that on the bill as well.
Bob
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12-11-2024, 11:06 AM
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Rivet Master
2023 25' Globetrotter
2021 16' Bambi
Forest Lake
, Minnesota
Join Date: Mar 2021
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It first listed November 12, 2024. I bookmarked the page and will see how long it lasts (if I think to check it).
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