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Old 03-05-2006, 01:47 PM   #101
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Marker light seal kit

Pagoff,

Good suggestion! I actually thought to do just that but then realized that with so many capable people on this forum, They would just rather go out and do it themselves.

If the interest is there I'll gladly get a kit together with the proper stainless hardware and required o-rings.I can even get the replacement lights for the newer trailers if necessary.
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Old 03-05-2006, 04:05 PM   #102
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hi lewster and others.....

good pic.....
so this is what you have done?
can not tell from the pix which model/style marker lights....

i've switched out the machine screws to stainless....
the closest size was a metric...and i looked at every hware store around....
i've forgetten the exact size...
but the rounded heads were just little tight...as the screw sinks into the lens cover.

what size did you use lew?

many here have done the stainless swap....
the rubber o ring is a new twist....i'll buy some today and add them...

the question is, does this solve the water issue.....

i was told at the factory and at a dealer the problem was the thin white gasket that seals the perimeter of the lens cover....

at least on the classics (tear drop markers) this is a very thin "polystyrene like" material....and is recessed into the chrome base and under the lens covers.

on inspection this gasket appears to compress easily along the rim and stay compressed....once the screws have been tightened...and that one center screw provides the pressure for the entire cover...it cannot be evenly applied imo.

i was told the gaskets are the source of the leaks in these marker lights.....

so lew......have you done lots of these yet.....do we know if it is a universal solution?

it may be premature to celebrate.....the cursed corroded marker lights....

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Old 03-08-2006, 04:46 PM   #103
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Just picked up our 06 28'CCD

Pulled out of the dealership and drove 6 blocks to a KOA to spend the weekend in our new 28' CCD. This was a custom factory order. This is our third new AS, so we knew to spend our first weekend out close to the dealership. Our previous AS trailers were 04, and 05 models. The fit and finish of our 06 is the best yet by far. No scratches, delaminating, etc. However, the factory forgot to install the magazine racks by the bed and one of the "fingers" that the pleated doors clip onto. As with our previous two AS, this one also leaks water onto the ground after showering. Not gray water, but fresh water. So back to the dealership it went. We'll be picking it up next weekend and will be embarking on our 3 month adventure. Will keep you informed of any other problems.

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Old 03-08-2006, 04:53 PM   #104
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As with our previous two AS, this one also leaks water onto the ground after showering. Not gray water, but fresh water. So back to the dealership it went.
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You know this is really unbelievable how this problem continues. I had it on my 2001 Safari and also my 2003 Classic. It seems to be one of the most common problems on new trailers, and yet they can't figure out how to do it right the first time. What is it with these shower door assemblies that seem to deify the ability to be caulked and installed correctly?

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Old 03-08-2006, 08:43 PM   #105
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You know this is really unbelievable how this problem continues. I had it on my 2001 Safari and also my 2003 Classic. It seems to be one of the most common problems on new trailers, and yet they can't figure out how to do it right the first time. What is it with these shower door assemblies that seem to deify the ability to be caulked and installed correctly?
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Jack -

I was just looking at a new Airsteam at the Tampa RV show a month or so ago with a poorly caulked bath. Even when there is sufficient caulking, the shower and door design are poor and cheap, ensuring continued problems.

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hi folks.....

there are several posts near the end of this thread (87--up to cowcreek7--) that don't deal with 06 quality issues but rather with "how to fix leaky marker lights".....this is a long term, many year, many model vexing problemo....

and deserving of a thread of it's own......could one of you mods pull these out and make a new thread just for this topic?....many will ask and many will look for this issue.....so help 'em out!!

if this is legal....and someone does it......feel free to delete this post.....

thank you, thank you, thank you......
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:14 PM   #107
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I disagree. Being that I started these QC threads, I would advocate that the posts stay, since if you read some of the posts like leaky showers that also cross model years and since there have been no observed changes to the lens assembly for 2006, shower leak issues, etc, I myself would like the posts to stay where they are since I feel them relevant to the overall conversation.

Air, if you feel you'd like to start a seperate thread about the lens, shower or other component, feel free, but as far as I am concerned, I don't mind some of the sidebars that clearly are issues for this particular model year as well and would ask that the mods, if so inclined, delete this post, 107, and post 106, but not move, edit or modify posts made to date as suggested in post 106.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:23 PM   #108
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2air,

I have only done this fix on my 19CCD. I looked at the gaskets and though they are thin, they seem to compress properly when you tighten the single center screw sufficiently (just before you hear "POP" and the crack the lens). But really, I will try to find a torque setting that works and will max-out the crushing force of the plastic lens on to the gasket.

My dealer (salesman actually) told me that the screws rusted and should be replaced with stainless. When I removed one to match it at the hardware store, I realized that there was also a way for water to enter the light, as there was no seal for the screw.....just hard plastic.

If you don't use the washer between the screw head and o-ring, you will distort the ring and it won't seal properly. Several washings and still no water!! I'll take a screw to the hardware store tomorrow and report back on the size. Over and out!
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:46 PM   #109
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oh and nice edit.......of your edit.......


ok.....here's a thread for every body that has water inside the marker lights..

http://www.airforums.com/forum...tml#post214345

since folks without 06s may not look here and may not want to read 6 pages just to find a little help......on a long standing problemo.....

no need to delete any posts here.....reading them is insightful.....

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Old 03-08-2006, 11:07 PM   #110
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[quote=Silvertwinkie]I disagree. Being that I started these QC threads, I would advocate that the posts stay, since if you read some of the posts like leaky showers that also cross model years and since there have been no observed changes to the lens assembly for 2006, shower leak issues, etc, I myself would like the posts to stay where they are since I feel them relevant to the overall conversation.

We took delivery of our 06 30'Classic Jan 2 and spent all but 11 days of Jan and Feb in it. About 1/3rd of it boondocking and the rest in a full hookup Rv park. The First thing we looked at when taking delivery was the shower. It looked fine and did not leak. This is our 3rd AS in less than 3 years and the best yet. There were a couple minor things I fixed myself but nothing I would ever complain of. If this is an example of 06 quality they are much better.
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congrats on the new trailer pieman....

is that it in your picture set? mighty nice....

are you pulling it (a 30ft classic) with the titan? wow.

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Old 03-08-2006, 11:54 PM   #112
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congrats on the new trailer pieman....

is that it in your picture set? mighty nice....

are you pulling it (a 30ft classic) with the titan? wow.

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The one in the picture is our 2005 25' we traded for the 30. The Titan handled the 25 just great but I had a chance to trade for an 04 Duramax Chev where My son works. It's a 4x2 which don't sell well here, they were anxious to move it as it had been on the lot some time. haven't had time to post picts of it yet---pieman
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Old 03-11-2006, 06:48 PM   #113
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Really nice pic

Here is something I would think you all would like.As some of you already know,I just purchased this Airstream and I have been making upgrades on my own.
Well I was checking the running lights and low and behold look what I found!

You can actually see what looks to be like the level the water was at when it started to rust.I can say it was sealed all right.Sealed so good that it held the water in place for a while before it dried all up.
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Old 03-18-2006, 11:51 PM   #114
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We just received our 2006 28' LS Safari. It is very nice, Im still in the process of going around and writing down all of the sizes of everything to construct my tool bag. We are very new at the RVing game here, but we do have RVers in our family, member Hohne is actually my Step father, LOL, and 2 years older then me, LOL. Its a long story. Anyways, one of the changes was they moved the Temp gauge to the Bedroom, and I only got one fantasic fan when I asked more then 6 times for two. Oh well, the dealer wanted to charge me for the other one, but I didnt want to take a chance on the dealer making a "Leak" in our new AS, that we had been waiting for, for a long time.

I would like to get some advise on the installation of a Trans temp gauge, and a larger Trans oil pan, Also will my factory Trans cooler be fine?

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hey viper......

congrats on the new trailer.......
the 2nd fan is a big help.....and one of the easiest items to install without causing a leak....but there is plenty of time for upgrades....and it will be cool for a while right?

so you are towing a 28ft safari with a 2003 tahoe?.... 5.3 liter, 3.73 rear?

ya might want to post this question in one of the towing threads (i know twink will disagree) but there are lots of tahoe/suburban owners here to help....and they don't all read the 2006 trailer thread....

an aftermarket tranny temp guage is usually gonna be more accurate than the factory guage.... and a bigger cooler is always gonna help too....if planning any august trips......up...

regardless, you may have your hands full going uphill with that big beautiful trailer....

does r.i. have room for trailers that big?

lets see some pics!

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Old 03-19-2006, 12:24 AM   #116
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There are some of the pics !!!!

I have a trip planed for June and July going to Belfast ME for 2 days, then to Bass Harbor 6 days, then to Scarborough ME 2 days, then back home. I tried to keep all legs under the 200 mile mark to ensure less pain and strain on the Tahoe. I am also staying to the low country for these reasons as well.

Prior to this trip, I plan on at least 2 shake downs \, 1st being no more then 30 miles and the second being no more then 75 miles.

I have done some exgust work as well as some air intake work which has added some extra poines and tourque. I do understand the wheel bases is 114" vers the (I beleive the 131") of the big brother Sub.
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viper....

nice pics......that is the sharpest color scheme and decor group for that unit...imo....a real elegant combo....

well,extra air in and out is always good....i seen you've done the k&n box...

since i'm using a a turbo diesel....i'm not much help on the bigger tranny pan issue on the small block v8....

no doubt tomorrow you'll get lots of guidance here......

the short trips are just a pleasureable as the long ones.....

with a nice new trailer for shelter....

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Thanks alot,

It took a while to work up the courage, so to speak to jump in the deep end with this AS. We are planning on going to NY later this year, and that we be the only other long trip we will do. Except me flying to SD in the fall to get after the Mystical flight of the Ringnecks with my boys (German Shorthair Pointer) Duke & Earl, LOL.

Anyways, we are planning on upgradding next year to a GMC 3/4 Duramax. So as long as I stay vigalent, slow and takes lots of brakes, I think Ill be ok. Thats the biggest reason for keeping the legs of my trips short (200 miles or less a day)


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well viper......

we will save some of those birds for ya....we've got plenty....

not to get ya all hot n bothered for the new chevy/gmc......but here are the 2 interior color schemes.....a world better than the last version.....
and really taken almost bit for bit from audi interior design...from the 90s...and that's a compliment.....

the chevy/gms look great....and one even matches your airstream decor...

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Old 03-20-2006, 06:10 PM   #120
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2006 axels

I Just found this,

An update. A/S and Henschen did briefly part company and for most of the
2006 production run, Dexter axles have been used. Henschen now has new
owners; A/S and Henschen have reestablished their relationship and Henschen
is back in as the exclusive supplier for A/S axles (as they have been since
the early '60s).

Do most of you with 2006 units have Dexter or Henschen axles? Any major differences--they are both rubber torsion suspension right? Either will be at the higher +1000 # axle load for 2006?
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