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08-12-2005, 09:11 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 19' Safari
1968 24' Tradewind
Rural
, Delaware
Join Date: Jun 2005
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Speaking of propane...
Would anyone have any suggestions of what would be the best way of tapping off of the propane tanks to run a barbeque, lights, etc., so I wouldn't have to carry an extra cylinder. Is there any way to do it without splicing into the copper line?
Thanks.
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10-01-2005, 11:13 PM
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3 Rivet Member
Richardson
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Join Date: Aug 2002
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Been running my 11k a/c on my 1999 25' Safari now for 2 1/2 years. I installed a hard start or quick start capacitor kit to help it get going. I agree it is marginal and usually run the refrig on gas. I turn the cmpressor off and turn on the fan to low speed. Start the gen. on high speed, not the econo. I then add in the compressor. It will run the a/c and converter ok. I turn it off when we want to use the microwave, etc. I have hooked it up to a 5 gallon plastic fuel tank and it will run a couple of days. I have used it up to 5000' but above that, it won't pull the a/c. I was going to add a second one but this has worked out fine most of the time. I want to know if it can be combined with the 1000. That should give me some extra margin.
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2 Honda 2000i generators
'08 Chevy Duramax
'01 Yamaha Raptor ATV
'07 Yamaha Rhino ATV
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10-02-2005, 06:54 AM
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1972 31' Sovereign
High Springs
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There are some issues concerning the valves in an engine that runs on propane. Some say propane will "burn the valves up". Most of this information comes from mechanics from the leaded gas era during the 20th century. I have been told it is not an issue on a modern gasoline engine that is designed to run on unleaded fuel. Time will tell however. I have faith in modern technology. If I burn the valves in my generator, I'll just do a valve job on it.
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2003 GMC 2500HD 4X4 D/A Ext. Cab
Propane Powered Honda EU2000i
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10-02-2005, 11:38 AM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1964 26' Overlander
1977 25' Tradewind
Eastern
, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pick
There are some issues concerning the valves in an engine that runs on propane. Some say propane will "burn the valves up".
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The valve issue is no longer an issue, (Hard valve seats and stems) we run propane powered generators for backup power, sometimes they run for days on end. The longest continuous run I have seen was 8 days 14 hours. We have logged thousands of hours on propane with no valve problems. I would not worry about it. I'm thinking of converting my 2000Eu.
The issue of a tap for running the generator off of the trailer tank, try this link. http://domsoutdoor.com/category.asp?...cd2=1128275170
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10-02-2005, 12:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2012 25' FB Eddie Bauer
Vintage Kin Owner
Virginia Beach
, Virginia
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Nebbing In On the Thread
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Originally Posted by Mike Lewis
rangerjay---one thing to concider when thinking of propane for fuel--you will reduce the output of you gen as propane has less BTU's , hence less horse power, 2nd is consumption, you get less running time on a gallon of propane than gasoline. If a 2000 will barely run an ac on gas it is unlikely it will do it at all on propane. a 30 lb bottle of propane will weigh nearly as much as a second 2000.----something to concider. Pieman
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All of this makes REALLY good sense! I live in Virginia and started out being a "non-boondocker" but all y'all (in the south y'all is singular, "all y'all" is the plural) convinced me to try boondocking. In Virginia the fantastic fan, the endless breeze blowing directly on me, etc is still hotter than hell! I've got to look seriously at a generator - and one of the things to consider is weight! As a single woman I don't need to sprain my back woman-handling a huge generator in and out of the 2500 Burb. So what does the EU2000 weigh, and the EU3000
Or do I just time my boondocking from March thru May and October?
Tin Lizzie
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10-02-2005, 03:35 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1964 26' Overlander
1977 25' Tradewind
Eastern
, Washington
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulaFord
. So what does the EU2000 weigh, and the EU3000
Tin Lizzie
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EU2000 = 46lbs
Eu3000 = 134lbs
I own the 2000 not really light but manageable. If you need something lighter you would have to go to the 1000 = 28lbs. It is good for charging your batteries, but that's about it.
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10-02-2005, 06:51 PM
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Rivet Master
1976 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Chandler
, Oklahoma
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Has anyone bought a brand of generator other than a Honda? I love the Honda brand; however, they are so expensive. I have a 24ft Argosy, with a new 13,500 AC. I know the 3000 Honda would probably pull it, but there are other generators that are far less expensive. I know about the noise feature of the Honda and the Yamaha. Is that the primary reason so many RV people buy them? I would just be using mine at the lake property and noise level is not the primary concern. Consumer Reports rates the Troybilt highly. There is also a Coleman with a Honda engine that is quite reasonable for a 5000 watt.
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10-02-2005, 06:57 PM
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Rivet Master
2021 27' Globetrotter
Saint Louis
, Missouri
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10-02-2005, 08:16 PM
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Rivet Master
Currently Looking...
NE
, Indiana
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check out the Yamaha EF-2400IS
This unit is a little heavier and a little more money than the EU2000, but it has the extra power to probably do it with one generator. And they can be run in parallel like the Honda. Check out this link for a propane/natural gas/gasoline capable generator. http://www.yamaha-propane-natural-ga...m/ef2400is.htm
OR for an EBay auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/Generator-YAMAHA...QQcmdZViewItem
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10-02-2005, 10:00 PM
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Rivet Master
Some Place with a German Name
, Texas
Join Date: Jun 2005
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What is needed to get the Yamaha to run on propane? Just a hose kit?
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10-02-2005, 10:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Westfalia
What is needed to get the Yamaha to run on propane? Just a hose kit?
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The dealer in this link specializes in setting up Yamaha generators for alternative fuels. That would be a good question to ask them.
http://www.propane-generators.com/yamaha-generators.htm
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10-02-2005, 11:57 PM
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Rivet Master
1977 Argosy Minuet 6.0 Metre
1964 26' Overlander
1977 25' Tradewind
Eastern
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juel
Has anyone bought a brand of generator other than a Honda? I love the Honda brand; however, they are so expensive. I have a 24ft Argosy, with a new 13,500 AC. I know the 3000 Honda would probably pull it, but there are other generators that are far less expensive. I know about the noise feature of the Honda and the Yamaha. Is that the primary reason so many RV people buy them? I would just be using mine at the lake property and noise level is not the primary concern. Consumer Reports rates the Troybilt highly. There is also a Coleman with a Honda engine that is quite reasonable for a 5000 watt.
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"This site has a huge discussion on Chinese gensets. http://www.woodalls.com/cforum/index...d/15131645.cfm "
The one big selling point is the Honda is quiet. It is the only point as a matter of fact. If you buy one of these others you will be cussed if you run it around anyone else.
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10-03-2005, 07:23 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 27' Overlander
Richmond
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by juel
Has anyone bought a brand of generator other than a Honda? I love the Honda brand; however, they are so expensive. I have a 24ft Argosy, with a new 13,500 AC. I know the 3000 Honda would probably pull it, but there are other generators that are far less expensive. I know about the noise feature of the Honda and the Yamaha. Is that the primary reason so many RV people buy them? I would just be using mine at the lake property and noise level is not the primary concern. Consumer Reports rates the Troybilt highly. There is also a Coleman with a Honda engine that is quite reasonable for a 5000 watt.
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Juel,
The Honda Inverter gens have "clean" power. The clean power is great for TV, computer etc.. The other non inverter generators are cheaper b/c they are much louder. Go to your local Honda dealer and get them to start the different types and make your choice.
We decided on the two Honda EU 2000 with a parallel kit. We had our house wired for a 30A hookup for our trailer and we also use our Honda's for our house backup.
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1976 Overlander "Spirit"
2020 GMC Denali Duramax
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10-03-2005, 07:24 AM
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3 Rivet Member
Richardson
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2002
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The Honda i series puts out clean power. Could be a factor for long life of appliances, tvs, and computers.
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'99 25' Safari
2 Honda 2000i generators
'08 Chevy Duramax
'01 Yamaha Raptor ATV
'07 Yamaha Rhino ATV
2 burgler alarms: Rotweiller and Shepherd
"If you step down to get in, you have to step up to get out"
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10-03-2005, 07:35 AM
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Rivet Master
1976 27' Overlander
Richmond
, Virginia
Join Date: Jul 2003
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. Using a siphon type device to take it out of the tank of the burb is a neat work around, but where do I put the gas fumed hose, the Suburban or the Safari?
Twink,
I just tried to siphon gas out of my 2500 Burb. The fuel filler tube has an "anti roll-over" ball. There in no way to get a hose around the valve.
If you are able to siphon let me know...
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