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10-11-2007, 03:59 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
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shameless and sometimes rude self promotion
I was curious why a commercial vendor can blatantly promote his company on this forum. Do they pay for this kind of publicity? Can I use this forum to promote my business also?
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10-11-2007, 04:22 AM
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Rivet Master 

1976 31' Sovereign
Currently Looking...
Chandler
, Oklahoma
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,770
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Huh?
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10-11-2007, 04:40 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2005 25' Classic
Pelham
, New Hampshire
Join Date: Sep 2004
Posts: 445
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Promote away!
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10-11-2007, 05:12 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,278
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No, there is no commercial relationship between this website and commercial vendors (identified in their avatar area). Promotion of non-Airstream business is considered spam and will be removed. There are quite specific vendor guidelines in the Community Rules at the bottom of each and every AIR Forums page. Application of those guidelines is reviewed in internal moderator discussions with some regularity. We are aiming to be as consistent as possible by having vendor-promoting threads come out of the vendor subforum (restrictions on how often are applied) and we do try to control the content when they post in general threads.
There are a couple handfuls of vendors who regularly provide input. Many come and go and do not use us to the allowed limits.
This has been a bone of contention for some members here. We encourage anyone to PM a moderator about any issue. Public discussion will be controlled in accordance with the Community Rules on the following points: - Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully.
- This forum is not intended to be a mechanism for people to vent frustrations about vendors or sales from private parties.
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10-11-2007, 05:41 AM
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Rivet Master 
2007 25' Classic
Hydes
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 713
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No, there is no commercial relationship between this website and commercial vendors
I don't want t get slammed for this, but I don't believe that that statement to be 100% accurate. I've heard from more than one source that there is a commercial vendor that has financial intrests or ties to this website.
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10-11-2007, 05:49 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,278
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You will see banner advertising through Google Ads. This is subject related and not chosen by this site. Vendor participation in the Supporting Member program is neither elicited nor does it carry any weight. There is no vendor tied to this site by any means whatsoever! It is enthusiast and volunteer run for the most part -- this is what the site owner has charged us to do. He has commercial interest in this and other online community sites alone. Lucky us!
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10-11-2007, 05:51 AM
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3 Rivet Member 
2010 28' Flying Cloud
Escondido
, California
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 196
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Much ado about nothing
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10-11-2007, 06:39 AM
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2 Rivet Member 
1967 22' Safari
AMARILLO
, Texas
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 79
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Self Promotion
I've learned lots from these "self promoters". Keep it commin'.
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10-11-2007, 06:40 AM
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Rivet Master 

Airstream - Other
2016 Interstate Grand Tour Ext
Bosque Farms
, New Mexico
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 7,091
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Hey, it could be worse! When Stew Oleson started his forum for RVRoadStew, we had all sorts of commercial vendors posting like crazy at the beginning. It was a really major problem: I had to delete posts constantly.
Oh, I forgot to add that the commercial vendors were vending porn.

Lynn
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10-11-2007, 06:56 AM
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Rivet Master 

2006 25' Safari FB SE
St. Cloud
, Minnesota
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 13,278
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And Lynn, I could steer you some deleted Nokia threads if you need a new phone. Send $29 to my profile address in Tonga...
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10-11-2007, 07:44 AM
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Site Team

2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,727
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanoeStream
And Lynn, I could steer you some deleted Nokia threads if you need a new phone. Send $29 to my profile address in Tonga... 
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I am looking for a new I-Phone for around $100, what da ya got?
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Richard
Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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10-11-2007, 08:01 AM
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Rivet Master 
1994 30' Excella
Currently Looking...
Milwaukee
, Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 1,935
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Quote:
Originally Posted by craftsman
I don't want t get slammed for this, but I don't believe that that statement to be 100% accurate. I've heard from more than one source that there is a commercial vendor that has financial intrests or ties to this website.
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I am a volunteer worker for this forum and if this was true or If I even thought it might be true I would quickly resign my post.
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Chaplain Kent
Forest River Forester 2501TS
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10-11-2007, 08:05 AM
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Rivet Master 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Posts: 2,190
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I can relate.......
It is frustrating for me when I do a Google search and get nothing but
Amazon trying to sell me books. But it seems that there are no free lunches.
I get annoyed with junk mail, spam, and worse yet people throwing unwanted newspapers on my lawn. One vendor in particular on this forum has most definetly earned the right to give a plug for his business. He has helped me so many times and or guided me away from my stupidity.
That being said.....Does anyone need a stupid mandolin player to play at your campsite? I don't work cheap, and I have been known to play a wrong note here and there. I am not much to look at, and most camping food gives me gas. Most people find my sense of humor annoying, so most employers actually pay me extra to leave. But I am an eager honest musician who doesn't drink everyday. Please send $35 and a self addressed stamped envelope, and I will gladly send you a brouchure.
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10-11-2007, 08:19 AM
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Rivet Master 

1991 34' Excella
1963 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Central
, Mississippi
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,921
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mandolindave
...That being said.....Does anyone need a stupid mandolin player to play at your campsite? I don't work cheap, and I have been known to play a wrong note here and there. I am not much to look at, and most camping food gives me gas. Most people find my sense of humor annoying, so most employers actually pay me extra to leave. But I am an eager honest musician who doesn't drink everyday. Please send $35 and a self addressed stamped envelope, and I will gladly send you a brouchure.
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Smiles and Karma
There is nothing better that a little self directed humor
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10-11-2007, 08:43 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
2002 22' International CCD
San Luis Obispo
, California
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 418
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.... what jkcru said.....
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Wayne
2002 22' CCD
2008 Dodge Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi
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10-11-2007, 08:49 AM
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4 Rivet Member 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 265
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Vendors vending
I only know of ONE thay is always quoting prices in his response to HELPING members. By the way I sell new electric scooters for $695 that go 30 miles between charging and do not need a license plate. Great for camping.
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10-11-2007, 08:58 AM
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Rivet Master 
1956 22' Flying Cloud
1953 32' Liner
1955 22' Safari
Valley View
, Texas
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,971
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Classified area
I think we should make it a requirement that our Classified users be required to post whether or not they are Commercial. Many have good items, but if they want to advertise or sell.....the Forums take "donations." Airstream "flippers" fall into this catagory.
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10-11-2007, 09:01 AM
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Rivet Master 

1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Chuckey
, Tennessee
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,784
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Doesn't seem to be a problem with most members....
...and besides, you can always hit the "Ignore Button" if it's only a handful of vendor's posts that bug you ~
Shari
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10-11-2007, 09:53 AM
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More than one rivet loose

Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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They are allowed as long as they make it clear they are a commercial vendor. Those are the rules. If it gets ugly they get warned and eventually locked out. Is there a problem? I would prefer to support the smal business onwer over large corporations.
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Michelle TAC MT-0
Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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10-11-2007, 09:54 AM
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More than one rivet loose

Currently Looking...
Los Alamos
, New Mexico
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 3,756
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Ads? What ads?
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Sarah, Snowball 
Looking for a 1962 Flying Cloud
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