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04-12-2020, 02:55 PM
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#621
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,996
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Suggestion, keep up the good work the Formica looks great.
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04-13-2020, 12:13 PM
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#622
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2 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 24
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Did you leave your shell hanging by the overhead hoists until putting it back on the frame? I've got a 65' Tradewind and have the same side panels that hang down about 6" below the C-channel, so can't set it directly on the ground. My gantry lifts are outside so I can't leave the shell dangling in the wind. Looking for ideas on how to set mine down while I do the frame work. Thanks
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04-13-2020, 08:09 PM
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#623
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 635
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I left the shell in the air. I am fortunate to have a nephew who let me tow the Tradewind when we bought it to his big metal shed at his place in the country. I attached the chain hoists to one of the large metal beams above the trailer. See post #38 at page 2 of this chronology.
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04-13-2020, 10:00 PM
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#624
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3 Rivet Member
1967 24' Tradewind
North Pole
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 126
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Looking great! I redid my kitchen with Formica and it was probably the best decision. It’s held up really well for three years now; I am sure yours will last at least that long. And, if you decide you don’t like it, very easy and cheap to replace!
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04-13-2020, 11:02 PM
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#625
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2 Rivet Member
1965 24' Tradewind
San Diego
, California
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 24
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Thanks. I have yet to see the mid 60’s shell set on the ground. I’ll come up with something.
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04-14-2020, 06:17 AM
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#626
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
1968 17' Caravel
1967 22' Safari
Leawood
, Kansas
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 456
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Very attractive. Seems like AS usually makes the mirrors slide and have a left and right.
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04-14-2020, 11:03 AM
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#627
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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Hinges
Hinges are a science unto themselves, like most hardware items, e.g. fasteners, springs, aluminum, woods, batteries, etc, etc.
I struggle with hinges. I understand barn door hinges, but little else. There are hundreds of different types. Airstream has used some hinges through the years where only the pivot pin shows. I found some "non mortise" hinges for the Sovereign project closet doors, heavy closet doors I might add. We bought two different types before we found a hinge we liked. Bah.
Being from Minnesota, we go to Rockler. They are a good woodworkers supply house. Here is their webpage on hidden hinges. This will likely give you nightmares. What hinge, no hinge, too pricey, wrong color, won't work. But take a look, you might find something that you think will work. Then you will try it and it won't work. That's my experience with hinges.
David
https://www.rockler.com/hardware/cabinet-hardware/hinges#/filter:ss_category:Hardware$253ECabinet$2520Hardwa re$253EHinges$253EConcealed$2520Hinges
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04-14-2020, 01:14 PM
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#628
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 635
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David - Thanks for suggesting Rockler. I was looking at them last night.
Doc - I'd love to see your Caravel. Drag it out to Pleasant Hill some day. Or just come down Huntington Road in KC and honk. Drive-by celebrations are all the rage these days.
Hittenstiehl - Took you up on your suggestion and did the fridge countertop yesterday.
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04-14-2020, 01:22 PM
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#629
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Rivet Master
1962 28' Ambassador
1961 19' Globetrotter
1962 26' Overlander
Mesa
, Arizona
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 5,996
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Looks equally good. I love how these aluminum obsessions bring out skills we didn't even know we had.
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04-14-2020, 01:50 PM
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#630
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 635
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dwwalker18
Looking great! I redid my kitchen with Formica and it was probably the best decision. It’s held up really well for three years now; I am sure yours will last at least that long. And, if you decide you don’t like it, very easy and cheap to replace!
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Amen to that. Earlier on, I was going to go with Corian for the Tradewind. However, after we redid our kitchen a year or so ago, replacing the formica with Corian, I thought better of it. Corian scratches easily, stains easily, scorches easily and, well, does a lot of bad things easily. I guess it looks good, but as I mentioned a few posts back, I've becomd a convert to the function over form crowd. The same goes for drop-in sinks. I read the other day on this forum that they tend to become drop-out sinks over time. And, as for the one in our newly-redone kitchen, I have noticed that the under part of the under mount is a great breeding ground for bacteria, mold and general nastiness.
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04-16-2020, 03:06 PM
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 635
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Correction, for lack of anything better to do on a rainy day
Uhh, I meant to direct that comment to undermount sinks, not drop in sinks. I need to remember to proofread pre-post, instead of post post.
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04-16-2020, 05:14 PM
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#632
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4 Rivet Member
1968 24' Tradewind
1968 26' Overlander
Detroit
, Michigan
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 467
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We understood what you were talking about. I ended up installing an IKEA stainless steel sink.
NORRSJÖN, 21"x17"
https://m.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/spr/69157908/
It has a very low profile lip that rests on top of my walnut countertop. A bead of silicone under the iip will hopefully keep the crud at bay.
I stumbled across something nifty... a roll up dish drying rack that fits perfectly above the sink:
https://www.amazon.com/Roll-up-Folda...018AZA7MW?th=1
And by the way, you are doing a great job on the interior. I really like the original wood with the light/white interior walls. Looks great!
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04-16-2020, 05:37 PM
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#633
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4 Rivet Member
2005 25' Safari
1968 17' Caravel
1967 22' Safari
Leawood
, Kansas
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 456
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Slats- will do. Atomic_13 is giving me a primer on the Forum tonight to post my successes and failures so far in a blog
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04-16-2020, 08:04 PM
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#634
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 635
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomic_13
I ended up installing an IKEA stainless steel sink.
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That's what I got, too. My next countertop to tackle will be the one in the kitchen, which will get the white Formica treatment, as well. It is a bit ironic that, when I tore the old Formica unit out, I swore I would replace it with something cooler. Oh well. In what has become a recurring lament, function trumps form, once more. But in my defense, I have to say the new Formica looks waayyy better than the old.
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04-17-2020, 06:18 AM
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#635
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Rivet Master
1986 34' Limited
1975 27' Overlander
1969 21' Globetrotter
Conifer
, Colorado
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 8,289
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I'll be laminating a "formica" covering on my plywood substrate soon. I had a devil of a time with the Overlander doing this. The material we purchased was so brittle. The box said Wilsonart on it. I didn't develop a good cutting method that wouldn't spit the material, especially when cutting the 1" edge pieces. I used Weldwood brush on contact adhesive which seemed to work okay. The edge pieces would not bend around the corner radius of my countertop. I do have a edge router that works good for trimming to size after it is glued down.
Where can I get some training on laying down "formica" on countertops? You seem to do it easily.
David
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04-17-2020, 07:06 AM
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#636
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3 Rivet Member
1967 24' Tradewind
Blairstown
, New Jersey
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 136
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After you have brushed on the contact adhesive, lay venetian blind slats on the plywood. Then, place the Formica on top of the slats, and begin to remove the slats.
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04-17-2020, 07:52 AM
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#637
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Rivet Master
1966 22' Safari
1955 22' Flying Cloud
Fredericksburg
, Texas
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 2,936
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rasmuw
After you have brushed on the contact adhesive, lay venetian blind slats on the plywood. Then, place the Formica on top of the slats, and begin to remove the slats.
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Good idea Wayne. I need to get me some slats. I have a whole stack of the wood yardsticks they tend to give away periodically at the box stores that I use. I like the slat idea better. Thanks
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04-17-2020, 07:56 AM
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#638
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
Kansas City
, Missouri
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 635
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Well, given my adopted moniker for this forum, I get a little uneasy with talk of laying Formica on slats. But I try not to take it personally. Actually, I followed a friend's advice and used a few (the first attempt, too few) 1/2" wooden dowels to keep the Formica separated from the contact cement and prevent premature bonding. In my first attempt, referred to above, I used only two dowels for a 24" piece of Formica, which unfortunately allowed the slacked Formica to contact the contact cement too soon, resulting in a forlorn attempt to pull it back from its fatal attraction, ultimately ending in spectacular failure, accompanied by all the appropriate exclamations over the shattered Formica and, flinging it to the far end of the shed. I used a can of Formica brand spray adhesive, but I think I'll get the brush-on stuff for the next round. The spray stuff takes a talent I lack.
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04-17-2020, 03:55 PM
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#639
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3 Rivet Member
1967 24' Tradewind
North Pole
, Alaska
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats
Uhh, I meant to direct that comment to undermount sinks, not drop in sinks. I need to remember to proofread pre-post, instead of post post.
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If you like the look/feel of the undermount sink but still want to use Formica, Karran makes a line of sinks specially designed for just that.
https://www.karran.com/product-catalog
I used it with the laminate when I redid my kitchen. So far no complaints!
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04-18-2020, 08:50 AM
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#640
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Rivet Master
1966 24' Tradewind
1995 34' Excella
Lynchburg
, Virginia
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 4,225
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slats
David - Thanks for suggesting Rockler. I was looking at them last night.
Doc - I'd love to see your Caravel. Drag it out to Pleasant Hill some day. Or just come down Huntington Road in KC and honk. Drive-by celebrations are all the rage these days.
Hittenstiehl - Took you up on your suggestion and did the fridge countertop yesterday.
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Slats
I was zoning in on your beautiful Formica work and see that you installed an Isotherm fridge. That is on my wish list. Is it a compressor fridge? What is the model number?
I too really like the white Formica with the walnut.
Dan
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