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Old 07-22-2019, 05:25 AM   #501
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Nice work on the dresser doors and hardware. They look new. Mine look 53 years old.

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Old 07-22-2019, 05:35 AM   #502
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Well, for context, as my 71st birthday looms, 53 looks pretty good.
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Old 07-22-2019, 06:20 AM   #503
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I have to say Slats I thought you were younger than me. You are aging well. Looks like we went to different schools togather.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:48 AM   #504
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TT - looks can be deceiving. But I have heard that 70 is the new 69.

On another note, yesterday was big box day on the front porch. There I found our new Dickenson heater, Thetford toilet, 230 watts worth of Zamp portable solar panels and assorted ghee-gahs. The Airstream account is loosing weight at an alarming rate. Next up is a Furrion gas range, Isotherm fridge and Truma tankless water heater. Not in the poor house yet, but I can see it from here.
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Old 07-25-2019, 05:51 AM   #505
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Sounds like progress!
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Old 07-26-2019, 08:28 PM   #506
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I was just over on Touring Dan's page and saw the toilet talk. So I'll pick up the theme here. Today I set my new toilet atop the cardboard outline of the above floor black water tank I intend to order from VTS so that I can figure out where to tell them to spin weld the inlet and outlet. I have read on the forum somewhere that one drawback of an above floor tank is that the drain points straight down, making emptying the thing a little touchy. After spending a little time under the rear end of our Tradewind, it seemed to me I could position the tank outlet such that I could, via an elbow, run the drain a short horizontal distance from the elbow to the space between the bumper and the body where the dump valve for the stock black tank was. Is this feasible, or does an elbow in the drain line present clogging problems?


I didn't get around to my cardboard mock-up of the cabinet and sink that will go between the toilet and the street side bathroom wall, but I'll have a 22" wide x 24" deep space to work with. A height of 32" seems about right.



I also got a small cabinet framed up for the Dickenson heater that will set next to and a little below the gas range I intend to install (no pics). At first I was going to copy your slanted placement, Atomic_13, but I kind of like the idea of having it directly face the entry door on the other side. Your thoughts?
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Old 07-27-2019, 12:04 AM   #507
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Slats, I think either orientation will work, but having it at an angle allows for a better viewing angle from the front seating area (if I am envisioning your layout correctly).

I think as long as you have the clearance or required heat shields, both installations are going to look and feel great!
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Thanks, Dan. I called the folks at Dickenson to get the proper clearances. Even though the 2Ē space I have allotted between the heater and stove cabinet
will be sufficient, I still plan to put a heat shield there on the side of the cabinet. As for the other side, there will be about 4Ē between the side of the heater and the end of the horseshoe that will surround the table, so whoever sits there may have a toasty, but not burnt, right leg. My wife, Terry, who usually gravitates towards warmth, will likely claim that seat. I agree with your view on viewing, which leaves me a little torn about my decision. But if I have learned anything along the way of this aluminum odyssey, it is that most mistakes are fairly easily reversed, given enough time to rectify them.
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Old 07-27-2019, 08:24 AM   #509
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Dale and Terry get a '66 Tradewind

Dale, either orientation will be fine. I agree with Dan to maximize the viewing angle of the front glass. This is why I angled mine towards the dinette. Regarding clearance, the front glass and chimney are the areas that get hot. The bottom and sides of the box are warm but not hot.

Regarding the black tank drain, I wouldnít angle the connection between the toilet and tank but angles at or downstream of the black tank outlet are common. Keep in mind ground clearance below your belly pan. A good rule of thumb is to stretch a string from the bottom of your bumper to the location your rear tire touches the ground (i.e. determine your departure angle). Avoid having anything (particularly plumbing) below the string so you donít rip it off your trailer.
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Old 07-27-2019, 08:36 AM   #510
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If it helps here is my black tank exit plumbing layout: Click image for larger version

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Note how I used elbows to move the terminal end forward so it didnít hang within my trailerís departure angle. It also permits connecting the ďstinky slinkyĒ without crawling under the trailer.
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slats. i am guessing that most black tanks have atleast one bend coming out of them. and don't think it is unusual to have an 90 degree elbow.

i have an elbow, although on the side of the tank, but it works just fine and thinking no difference if you are putting that elbow on the bottom pointing towards the rear. would just make sure that there is even the slightest downward angle to let the s*%$ roll down hill.

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Thanks, Jeremy. I am familiar with the first rule of plumbing set forth in your last sentence. I'm just going to go ahead and order my tank with the outlet in the middle below the floor and then attach the elbow, pointing the flow to the most advantageous spot for the stinky slinky to pick it up carry it along to its final resting place (at least until the honey wagon shows up).
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Christmas in July continues. Our 230 watt Zamp solar suitcase arrived today.
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i have an elbow, although on the side of the tank, but it works just fine and thinking no difference if you are putting that elbow on the bottom pointing towards the rear.

Jeremy - is that the 19 gal. tank from VTS?
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Got mine from Inca plastics as they priced out cheaper than VTS. Beware though, not the quickest to respond to orders/questions.

http://www.incaplastics.com
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I recall it being 22 gallons??

It is the H-4.

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Thanks, Jeremy. I think I'm just going to order the 19 gallon tank from VTS. I've had good luck with getting stuff from them and they seem to be pretty good human beings. They even return calls and go out of their way to be of help.
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Although tough to do business with, Inca does provide a lot of different configuration of water tanks.

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I roughed in a little cabinet and mounted my heater on it just to see how I liked it. The open side will face the end of the horseshoe bench that is yet to be fabricated and installed. Because there will not be enough room between the cabinet and the bench for drawers to pull out or for a door to swing open, I will likely rig up a sliding door on it.
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Looking good Slats! Those Dickinson heaters are cool.

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