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Old 05-06-2020, 07:32 AM   #201
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One More Box and one more challenge !

I roughed in the box that will house the Fridge while the Micro will be "free sitting on top" The side of the box that is facing the front will be part of my power panel. The paper shows the tentative layout. More to come on the final design when I figure out how I will enclose it with a face frame and slider doors.

Sometimes I can draw on paper an come up with my cut list. Other times like now...unless I can see it in person I have no clue on how to cut and assemble what I am looking for. This is what is happening on the settee area. Little scale models to see what it looks like and how to assemble. Stay tuned for the end result .

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Old 05-07-2020, 04:37 AM   #202
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Designs and drawings are great, but for one-offs, nothing beats a prototype. Looks like things are going well, can't wait to see it all together. - Mark
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Old 05-13-2020, 08:03 AM   #203
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3 Boxes and no more

The challenge from the previous post was met and I think conquered.

As we all know trying to square up things in a trailer that is basically all soft curves can be a challenge. My goal here was to get the most storage space possible while making the settee comfortable. The back was slanted at 15' degrees and the seats are approx. 18 inches wide and 16 high. It is a pretty straight forward design however when I get done it should have some nice touches to it. Stay tuned!

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Old 05-14-2020, 04:18 AM   #204
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Dinette Design

You are building exactly what I have in mind for my Ambassador. I'll be watching closely and stealing many ideas I am sure.

Maybe you can help me with some design elements I have been struggling with;
  • How many people will be able to comfortably eat at the table?
  • Looks like the table will collapse into a bed, where will all the cushions come from?
  • How are you planning to access the under seat storage?
  • Just curious, how many gallons is your fresh water tank?
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Old 05-14-2020, 05:39 AM   #205
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Thanks for the updates and photos. Are you keeping track of all the weight you are adding with that 3/4" [?] plywood, especially at the front of the trailer? Its impact on tongue/hitch weight could be significant IMO.

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Old 05-15-2020, 06:47 AM   #206
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Thanks for the updates and photos. Are you keeping track of all the weight you are adding with that 3/4" [?] plywood, especially at the front of the trailer? Its impact on tongue/hitch weight could be significant IMO.

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That is a very good observation. I have been concerned with weight distribution in the trailer more so in the back than front. However to answer your specific question. Plywood has a weight of approximately 60-70 pounds per sheet. I used the average of 65#. After measuring the total sq footage and using the weight factor the total weight of the front settee is approximately 93# . I do not think this will impact the tongue ratio at all since this will offset the amount that is behind the rear axel.

Most of the construction of the "boxes" share walls or sides which does not reduce the rigidity, but saves weight.
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You are building exactly what I have in mind for my Ambassador. I'll be watching closely and stealing many ideas I am sure.

Maybe you can help me with some design elements I have been struggling with;
  • How many people will be able to comfortably eat at the table?
  • Looks like the table will collapse into a bed, where will all the cushions come from?
  • How are you planning to access the under seat storage?
  • Just curious, how many gallons is your fresh water tank?
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Thanks Mark...
*We are subscribing to the 642 Rule- 6 for drinks 4 for dinner and only 2 of us for sleeping.
*Fresh water tank from VTS and it is approx. 32 gal.
*See 642 rule... However I am preparing for that contingency. Just have not figured out the logistics of cushions and how big.

If you see where the drill is pointing...the seat will have a piano hinge and a spring arm to hold the lid open for easy access.

On the back rest (blue tape)this will have a piano hinge and magnetic clips to allow full access to storage behind the back. The side seats will have lift out covers.

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I had a piece of walnut laying around that will work nicely as a little junk catcher behind the seat back.

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Old 05-16-2020, 04:39 AM   #208
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Thanks, that helps. My original design didn't have your walnut shelf, but will now. I also like the 6-4-2 rule. I think the Safari was a 4-(tight 4)-3 and what we would really like is a 6-4-(occasional 4) size, hence the ambassador rebuild.

One last question, what dimensions are you planning for the table? Thanks - Mark
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That is a very good observation. I have been concerned with weight distribution in the trailer more so in the back than front. However to answer your specific question. Plywood has a weight of approximately 60-70 pounds per sheet. I used the average of 65#. After measuring the total sq footage and using the weight factor the total weight of the front settee is approximately 93# . I do not think this will impact the tongue ratio at all since this will offset the amount that is behind the rear axel.

Most of the construction of the "boxes" share walls or sides which does not reduce the rigidity, but saves weight.
Thanks for the details . . . sounds good!

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One last question, what dimensions are you planning for the table? Thanks - Mark
Not sure but looking at something approx. 24x3*
The width in-between the settee is 48 inches.
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Old 05-18-2020, 04:24 PM   #211
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Old 05-19-2020, 08:27 PM   #212
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Fun things

Some times you just have to take a break from the job and do some fun things.
Fabed some pie shape fillers for the back of the settee. Not as good as joyflea...but it works here.
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Assemble-Disassmble

The settee is now all finished and assembled! Now I have to dis-assemble, pickle wash the wood and shoot clear coat over the top and then assemble. The good part is that it does not take too long to assemble . Spraying the clear is what I am not looking forward to.

Used piano hinges for the seat back and front. Since these will be covered by cushions I was not concerned about look only function.
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Assemble

Pickled or whitewashed the Baltic birch. Then shot 2 coats of semi gloss clear. You can see the difference between the two. Most of the inside cabinets are natural.
Connected the on board water...happy with the results.

When fastening anything to the inside walls I used aluminum angle and aluminum rivets...or aluminum screws. I really do not know if this is better or the same as using wood cleats. I just think it is a cleaner approach. Wood to wood I use wood...LOL

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Sink/Stove

Picked up my stove and sink today and then cut some holes in the counter top and did the trial fit. Also hooked up cold water today and did a pressure test. Everything worked and no leaks.

Then dis-assembled the galley area and did the white wash and clear. Next back to the bunk areas and make adjustments and then fasten into place.

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Old 06-14-2020, 03:42 PM   #216
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Trend Setter!

Well I was pleasantly surprised when I opened up the Airstream Rivet.

I just want to say I started on my coloring way before this came out

Get the first-look at the all-new Coastal Cove interior décor...

So now my interior coloring is going to be in vogue for the next couple of years.

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Continued to run my water lines. Tucked them in nice and tight.

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Old 06-29-2020, 07:10 AM   #218
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Hot!

Even though the heat index here in south west FLA is over 110 we have a big fan and working in the shade is tolerable.

Got the inside walls shaped and ready to white wash and then clear coat. Hopefully the Aluminum channels that are back ordered will show up soon so I can secure things and move on. Also got the Aluminum legs back from the welder and now the bath sink and counter area is secure.

If any one out there has any ideas or pictures for making a light weight barn door for the bath area, please post them here.

Used the tried and true method for getting the curve right

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Kent, you’re almost there. Everything looks neat and fits well. I want to thank you for the guidance on fiberglass. Though we have finished the 55 shower pan, will be awhile before installation due to our HVAC dilemma. I’ll get back on it later this summer. Concerning your sliding barn door, the 55 originally had one. I copied that and built another, but realized it was heavier than I wanted. I built another using 1/8” Baltic birch on each side with 3/16” white pine slats in between the birch. It came out ultra light weight. We purchased a top track attached to the structure with rollers that attached to the top of the door. The rollers are adjustable for height. Rolls real well. I did make a stained slat that I place on the bottom that keeps the door tightly shut in travel. No locking mechanism, just a handle. Let me know if that works for you and I’ll look up the track manufacturer and send pictures. Thanks again
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I built another using 1/8” Baltic birch on each side with 3/16” white pine slats in between the birch. It came out ultra light weight. We purchased a top track attached to the structure with rollers that attached to the top of the door. The rollers are adjustable for height. Rolls real well. I did make a stained slat that I place on the bottom that keeps the door tightly shut in travel. No locking mechanism, just a handle. Let me know if that works for you and I’ll look up the track manufacturer and send pictures. Thanks again
I remember seeing that on your build page...If you don't mind repost some pictures and the track mfg. here. I know when I looked at it I liked it, but could not figure out the track set up.
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