Free 7 Day Trial RV GPS App RV Trip Planner Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Free 7 Day Trial ×
 


Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 05-16-2013, 05:12 PM   #21
Restorations done right
Commercial Member
 
Frank's Trailer Works's Avatar
 
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore , Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
Images: 2
awe, your making me
Frank's Trailer Works is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2013, 06:08 PM   #22
2 Rivet Member
 
57BB's Avatar
 
1957 22' Caravanner
1964 26' Overlander
1954 29' Liner
Washington , Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 95
An update is in order

Well we both took a week plus off to attend to other work/projects and then hopped back onto getting Lucy back in shape mid week last week. Lots has been accomplished. New bling, in the form of upper running lights (front and back), new tail lights, new license plate holder, new black tank with stainless steel box to hold it in is installed, fabricated and installed a new bumper storage box (separate from the trailer body), added a new storage locker under the kitchen (curb side) sink, new frig vent cover, the fantastic vents are on the roof, installed the first layer of insulation on the interior, sealed all of the interior seams with multiple layers of Flex Seal that stuff is amazing, met with the upholstery folks who will be fabricating two new gauchos (anyone have a picture of an actual 1964 gaucho I'd appreciate it if you'd share), they will also make the curtains, purchased the fabrics for the upholstery and curtains and today we began the process of attaching the new belly pan plus making the cut out for the new on demand hot water heater.

A couple of issues along the way. I purchased the black tank from Inland RV in Corona CA. It was a VERY expensive purchase, with shipping I spent nearly $600 for the tank. I was told it would be an "exact replica of the original and would include the necessary fittings for the toilet and vent". I received the tank and it is nearly the same, but far from an exact replica. I did not receive any fittings, those had to be purchased in addition to. No big deal and simple to resolve. But I well say what really got me was the actual construction of the waste outlet flange on the base/side of the tank. The piece is a standard Thetford flange that is still available that is simply encased in fiberglass at the opening...I've included pictures. In the original a similar method of attachement was done and as in the original this connection failed....immediately.

What struck me was how little attention was paid in the remanufacture of this critical connection. It appears to be a real hack job just sloped onto the otherwise well made tank and then not QCed before it left the factory! That sucks in my book!!! Needless to say there is no bond between the plastic of the flange and the actual fiberglass and so where there were a couple of small voids in the fiberglass water actually leaked out of the bottom of the flange...just as it did in the original! We called out to Corona and were told to call a trailer restoration company in Orange County to get help with "our problem". Though the OC folks were empathetic and had certainly seen this very same problem at least twice in the past they did not have a simple solution to the problem.

In the end we decided to use a combination of Flex Seal and a seam sealer that 3M manufacturers to seal the two voids and to fill the screw holes where the water had found a way out of the tank. Following the recommendations for installation for both products, allowing them to fully cure did the trick and the next day the leaks were resolved....Don't ask if the tank actually fit correctly into the stainless steel box we had made to copy the original decayed galvanized box...

The belly pan is going on with nary a hitch and we hope to have both pieces clecoed and will perhaps start to revit tomorrow!

Frank found the coolest license plate, which I will proudly display once Lucy is back on the road...countdown to June 29th!

BTW I know a bunch of folks are following this thread it would be great to hear some feedback, thanks.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1737.jpg
Views:	120
Size:	249.4 KB
ID:	188071   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1743.jpg
Views:	133
Size:	259.6 KB
ID:	188072  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1756.jpg
Views:	120
Size:	231.5 KB
ID:	188073   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1778.jpg
Views:	126
Size:	221.7 KB
ID:	188074  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1775.jpg
Views:	121
Size:	183.7 KB
ID:	188075   Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1780.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	281.9 KB
ID:	188076  

Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_1762.jpg
Views:	123
Size:	392.1 KB
ID:	188077  
57BB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-11-2013, 06:47 PM   #23
Certifiable
 
mistral blue's Avatar
 
. , .
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,467
Thumbs up Lookin good!

Quote:
Originally Posted by 57BB View Post
(anyone have a picture of an actual 1964 gaucho I'd appreciate it if you'd share)
1964 Overlander 26' - Vintage Airstream

http://vintageairstream.com/sofa-beds-gauchos/

http://www.airstream.com/files/libra...fecd6aed04.pdf

http://www.airstream.com/files/libra...b3f4f7c69f.pdf
__________________
"IT'S A MAGICAL WORLD, HOBBES, OL' BUDDY... LET'S GO EXPLORING!" ~ CALVIN
mistral blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-12-2013, 04:00 PM   #24
2 Rivet Member
 
57BB's Avatar
 
1957 22' Caravanner
1964 26' Overlander
1954 29' Liner
Washington , Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 95
Thank you Mistral Blue for sharing those links on the Gaucho! I met with the upholstery shop folks today with this info and Frank's gaucho so I think I've got this nailed!!!
57BB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2013, 05:28 PM   #25
2 Rivet Member
 
57BB's Avatar
 
1957 22' Caravanner
1964 26' Overlander
1954 29' Liner
Washington , Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 95
Latest Update

Lucy is nearing the final leg of her journey to being back on the road...finally. It seems like I got a little distracted, a) BASH IV which was a blast and b) the 1953 Liner I just had to buy LOL.

Anyhow, the double insulation is done, the new hatches made, the "airliner" bathroom restored and painted a really cool 3 pearl metallic color, the upholestry and drapes are finished...just waiting to be picked up next week, wiring (including surround sound , interior skins are in, new heat pump on the roof, whew!

Below are some photos of the various things:

1. When I was cleaning up the trim that goes around the windows I found this pencil written "airstream" on a side of the trim that isn't visible. I've found something similar on my Caravanner and on my Liner...I guess the factory guys really liked to write that word on their creations.

2. Found factory original banana wraps to replace the badly damaged ones that were on the trailer.

3. I'm not installing a furnace (the heat pump is enough) so that residual space under the sink that is impossible to get to can now be easily gotten to by a new custom sized hatch. Frank found a metal company that was able to replicate the hatch door design almost exactly as the original. So we had one that was missing and this new one made. If you need one PM me and I'll let you know how to obtain one.

4. The "airliner" bath has a plastic bench/tub/shower configuration. The bench hids the toilet. The toilet is further disguised by a plastic trim ring that transitions the bench to the inside of the bowl. The original is made of a very fragile plastic (photo left after we attempted to make repairs to it). We discovered that the ring is not exactly round but is more egg shaped which made duplicating it a little difficult. But, however, we found a plastics craftsman close to Frank's shop in Baltimore who has a 3D CAD cutting machine. He was able to accurately scan the original and then reproduce it in polyethylene..which can be painted and is virtually indestructible. This item can be obtained through Frank as well should anyone need one.

5. Lucy will be a comfortable trailer with two well sealed layers of reflectix. The fiberglass end caps have the reflectix spray glued to the back side of them.

6. I chose automotive paints for the exterior metal bits, hitch, rims and bumper. Mostly to match my TV, but also for durability. Since it is a three coat process and the resulting finish is very hard it will last for many years. It is also easier to keep clean, a little car wax is best for maintaining this finish. After a great deal of consideration, urethane vs. automotive I choose the automotive finish to recoat the fiberglass, plastic and metal details inside the trailer. For the "airliner" bath assembly the finish is shown in the photo. It too just needs to be waxed occasionally to keep it nice and clean.

7. We ordered the zolatone paint Thursday, seen in the photo with the gaucho fabric (photo top) and the curtain fabric (photo bottom). Should begin the painting as soon as the paint arrives!

8. It still amazes me how easily the interior skins went back into place. Hands down they are perfectly in their original position. I'm SOOOOOO glad I didn't do what I've seen others do on this forum...that is take the trailer apart and then try to "correct" the factory "flaws. If I had done that I'd still be trying to put this trailer back together. She may be a little out of level and have one oddly shaped window...but heck no one but I and Frank will ever be able to tell.

Enjoy more to come soon.

Oh, btw if there is any interest I have a short video of the toilet ring being made which I can post.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	airstream.jpg
Views:	133
Size:	496.9 KB
ID:	191874   Click image for larger version

Name:	banana.jpg
Views:	131
Size:	394.5 KB
ID:	191875  

Click image for larger version

Name:	new hatch.jpg
Views:	132
Size:	517.4 KB
ID:	191876   Click image for larger version

Name:	unobtanium.jpg
Views:	130
Size:	526.7 KB
ID:	191877  

Click image for larger version

Name:	rear cap.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	551.0 KB
ID:	191878   Click image for larger version

Name:	sink.jpg
Views:	118
Size:	411.8 KB
ID:	191879  

Click image for larger version

Name:	fabric and colors.jpg
Views:	115
Size:	845.2 KB
ID:	191880   Click image for larger version

Name:	skinsin.jpg
Views:	131
Size:	674.1 KB
ID:	191881  

57BB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-27-2013, 06:06 PM   #26
Certifiable
 
mistral blue's Avatar
 
. , .
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,467
Quote:
Originally Posted by 57BB View Post
Enjoy more to come soon.
I can't wait! You guys are doing a fantastic job.
__________________
"IT'S A MAGICAL WORLD, HOBBES, OL' BUDDY... LET'S GO EXPLORING!" ~ CALVIN
mistral blue is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-28-2013, 03:28 AM   #27
Restorations done right
Commercial Member
 
Frank's Trailer Works's Avatar
 
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore , Maryland
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 5,545
Images: 2
Quote:
Originally Posted by 57BB View Post
Lucy is nearing the final leg of her journey to being back on the road...finally.

It still amazes me how easily the interior skins went back into place. Hands down they are perfectly in their original position. I'm SOOOOOO glad I didn't do what I've seen others do on this forum...that is take the trailer apart and then try to "correct" the factory "flaws. If I had done that I'd still be trying to put this trailer back together. She may be a little out of level and have one oddly shaped window...but heck no one but I and Frank will ever be able to tell.

Enjoy more to come soon.
To restore something is to return it to it's original brand new condition. Most people entering a restoration are inclined to change it all and remove the flaws. These trailers were literally hand made back then and man is far from perfect. It has been a hard lesson to learn to embrace the flaws and reproduce them instead of trying to correct them all. Like a finger print, every Airstream is one of a kind even though it was made in a factory(by men).
Frank's Trailer Works is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2014, 06:31 PM   #28
2 Rivet Member
 
57BB's Avatar
 
1957 22' Caravanner
1964 26' Overlander
1954 29' Liner
Washington , Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 95
So I failed miserably in continuing the journey restoring this great trailer! We finished her to about 95% by August of 2013...and then I took her all over the place. The interior is perfect, fully restored to a mid century modern appearance. Over the next couple of weeks she'll get some finishing touches and then I'll post some interior shots.

She's been getting polished over the past weeks, weather permitting...these photos are of the first cut.
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402101050.551087.jpg
Views:	134
Size:	746.5 KB
ID:	213662Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402101062.834698.jpg
Views:	98
Size:	895.8 KB
ID:	213663Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402101077.251986.jpg
Views:	117
Size:	888.0 KB
ID:	213664Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1402101089.922781.jpg
Views:	90
Size:	890.8 KB
ID:	213665
57BB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2014, 07:09 PM   #29
Rivet Master
 
Lily&Me's Avatar

 
2007 Interstate
Normal , Illinois
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 16,550
Well, it's important to live, too.

Really lovely.


Maggie
__________________
Find a need and fill it.

🏡 🚐 Cherish and appreciate those you love. This moment could be your last.🌹🐚
Lily&Me is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-26-2014, 05:14 PM   #30
2 Rivet Member
 
57BB's Avatar
 
1957 22' Caravanner
1964 26' Overlander
1954 29' Liner
Washington , Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 95
Thanks Maggie I hope others get some benefit from this thread. The crowning interior piece is now finished a repurposed 1966 Dometic 3-way frig that I restored more or less and Frank Yensan completed with his artistic flair. The original vent was too deteriorated to repair and Inland RVs reproduction and shipping is way to pricey so I suggested aluminum to Frank and the result of his amazing work is shown in the pics. Btw all original cabinets restored with mission cherry gel stain and lacquer finish, cork glue down flooring, Bose surround sound plus fold down 32" LED TV on the ceiling (not shown), fully restored airliner bathroom refinished with three part automotive finish including a vinyl copy of the toilet ring, fabric from modern fabric dot com with replicated gaucho and side slide out bed...the list goes on...I'm up for any ?s and of course Frank and I love getting our egos stroked
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824316.232944.jpg
Views:	103
Size:	736.6 KB
ID:	214970Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824333.037340.jpg
Views:	116
Size:	844.2 KB
ID:	214971Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824350.735902.jpg
Views:	106
Size:	672.5 KB
ID:	214972Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824364.119564.jpg
Views:	109
Size:	677.8 KB
ID:	214973Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824386.405198.jpg
Views:	108
Size:	823.0 KB
ID:	214974Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824403.777219.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	746.6 KB
ID:	214975Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824416.488014.jpg
Views:	103
Size:	702.5 KB
ID:	214976Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByAirstream Forums1403824436.700811.jpg
Views:	110
Size:	666.1 KB
ID:	214977


Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
57BB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2014, 01:59 PM   #31
1 Rivet Member
 
Wrekless's Avatar
 
1965 26' Overlander
RTP , North Carolina
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 10
Great thread, thank you for all the pictures. What did you use to restore your bathroom? I love how the tub and sink look.
Wrekless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2014, 02:34 PM   #32
2 Rivet Member
 
57BB's Avatar
 
1957 22' Caravanner
1964 26' Overlander
1954 29' Liner
Washington , Washington, D.C.
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 95
Thank you for reading the thread and for the kind words. The bathroom fiberglass, the tub and toilet bench was repaired with fiberglass and sanded. The sink is formed plastic and quite brittle after 50 years. The sink top had a 1/2 inch thick plywood glued to the under side. The plywood had partially delaminated and was partially rotten. I removed and replaced the plywood with 3/4".

The sink was repaired with fiberglass matt and abs glue. Once dried or cured this patch is incredibly strong. Surface cracks were filled with abs glue and sanded.

The whole assembly was primed with an automotive epoxy primer then coated with an automotive color finish and top coated with an automotive clear coat. The finish is very durable and easy to clean. It can also be polished with a car wax.



Sent from my iPhone using Airstream Forums
57BB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2014, 03:07 PM   #33
3 Rivet Member
 
m.nolte's Avatar
 
1967 30' Sovereign
Fairhope , Alabama
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 232
Love the fridge!
__________________
Melissa
m.nolte is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
1964, 1964 overlander, overlander, restoration


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Disclaimer:

This website is not affiliated with or endorsed by the Airstream, Inc. or any of its affiliates. Airstream is a registered trademark of Airstream Inc. All rights reserved. Airstream trademark used under license to Social Knowledge LLC.



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.