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06-13-2008, 09:44 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
, Ontario
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'61 Overlander Club
I remember a while back there was a thread on the oldest 24' Argosy out there as friends of ours found the 10th one off the line....I have seen so many posts for 61 Overlanders this year it might be fun to do the same.....
So here is mine:
26TSS0463 So I am number 463 off the line in Versailles CA.
What I also find really neat is all the different State Certificate of Vehicle Titles. We have one from Louisiana (our 69 GT - now sold), Alaska (61 OV) and now Arizona (63 GT).
I know this is for 1958 - 63 - so perhaps each year could pipe in to just to make the thread a bit beefier - and of course when were done we can see how many of year is on the forums too
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06-13-2008, 12:38 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
1955 22' Flying Cloud
2021 27' Globetrotter
Gulfport
, Mississippi
Join Date: Mar 2006
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I always like digging into the history of Airstreams. Our '61 Overlander is Ohio built and the VIN# is: I261T860. The Lifetime Warranty certificate on the inside of the kitchen closet door is signed in pencil by (the best I make out the name) Airstream employee Andrew J Charles and dated, again in pencil, 11-6-61.
Can I get a prize for the "last" Overlander built that year?
We purchased our Overlander in Texas and it had a Texas title with the wrong VIN on it, 1261T860. we titled it in Mississippi with the correct VIN.
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06-13-2008, 12:43 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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This thread is taunting me...
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06-14-2008, 07:59 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1961 26' Overlander
Prairie du Sac
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10
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Here is the pic of our lifetime warranty that shows our VIN and the signature of Andrew J Charles. It says he was the president at the time. Under that he has the initials of M.F. - I'm not sure if this means someone signed on his behalf.
Our Vin number is also written in pencil through out the trailer on various pieces of wood, etc, which is kind of cool.
When I see the VIN numbers of other trailers, ours seems so different. I know the 26 means it's a 26 footer, and the D means it has the double bed option, but other than that, how can you tell where it was made or what number it was off the line?
Thanks!
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06-14-2008, 08:05 AM
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Site Team
2002 25' Safari
Dewey
, Arizona
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 15,616
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The California and Ohio plants used a different VIN format in the early 60's. This link shows the breakdown of both:
61Overlander
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Wally Byam Airstream Club 7513
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06-14-2008, 09:01 AM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
Join Date: Feb 2002
Posts: 12,702
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Minor Detail ~
Quote:
Originally Posted by GT1963
So here is mine:
26TSS0463 So I am number 463 off the line in Versailles CA.
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Hey Sharon...sounds like a fun thread!
But I think you have some mis-information there...it's Versailles OH, not CA. If it was built in CA it would be Los Angeles or Sante Fe...there is no Versailles, CA
By the VIN number, it appears your trailer was built in CA though..
Have fun with this!
Shari
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06-14-2008, 09:21 AM
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Rivet Master
2005 22' International CCD
Buckhorn
, Ontario
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06-14-2008, 09:49 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
1955 22' Flying Cloud
2021 27' Globetrotter
Gulfport
, Mississippi
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitten
Here is the pic of our lifetime warranty that shows our VIN and the signature of Andrew J Charles. It says he was the president at the time. Under that he has the initials of M.F. - I'm not sure if this means someone signed on his behalf.
Thanks!
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Ours also has the initials M.F. under the signature of Andrew J Charles. We may need Fred and/or PeeWee on this one.
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06-14-2008, 10:08 AM
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Rivet Master
1960 33' Custom
Athens
, Georgia
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 1,373
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I'm in. Ohio 759.
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06-14-2008, 10:24 AM
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1 Rivet Member
1961 26' Overlander
Prairie du Sac
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10
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Thanks for the link Richard! It looks like our Surely was made in Ohio Number 721 off the line??
Shari - I was looking at your pics of Birdie and I am so relieved that you got her! Those flowers! I was horrified! I'm so glad you could see the beauty underneath and rescue her!
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06-14-2008, 10:26 AM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
1955 22' Flying Cloud
2021 27' Globetrotter
Gulfport
, Mississippi
Join Date: Mar 2006
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We need NeighborLady from North Carolina. She posted some pictures of their '61 Overlander about a month ago. The more, the better!!
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06-14-2008, 10:36 AM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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3Streams (Andy and April) also have one among their "fleet."
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06-14-2008, 10:59 AM
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Rivet Master
1967 28' Ambassador
1963 19' Globetrotter
1970 29' Ambassador
Waukesha
, Wisconsin
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,180
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea
Ours also has the initials M.F. under the signature of Andrew J Charles. We may need Fred and/or PeeWee on this one.
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Could it be that he had some underling whose initials are M.F. do the signing for him?
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06-14-2008, 09:21 PM
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1 Rivet Member
1961 26' Overlander
Prairie du Sac
, Wisconsin
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 10
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I also noticed that many of the shelves in our trailer have the VIN number on them followed by the letters "ARL". Does anyone know if these are initials as well?
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06-14-2008, 11:45 PM
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Rivet Master
1956 22' Safari
2015 27' Flying Cloud
Vintage Kin Owner
Conifer/Evergreen
, Colorado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitten
Shari - I was looking at your pics of Birdie and I am so relieved that you got her! Those flowers! I was horrified! I'm so glad you could see the beauty underneath and rescue her!
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Yeah...it was kinda hard to look beyound the flowers ~ That and the seafoam green sponge paint on all the walls double ! It's been a lot of work...but the flowers are gone!
Shari
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06-15-2008, 05:29 AM
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Restorations done right
Commercial Member
1962 26' Overlander
1961 26' Overlander
Vintage Kin Owner
Currently Looking...
Baltimore
, Maryland
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my trailer is a 1962. Her serial number is I 262 T 123. However, when removing the rear half, I found these following dates:
So do I qualify to participate in this thread?
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06-15-2008, 07:22 AM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Quote:
Originally Posted by byamcaravanner
Could it be that he had some underling whose initials are M.F. do the signing for him?
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I think Steve has it right. I don't know who M.F. is but suspect she was Mr. Charles' secretary. Back in the day secretaries who signed their bosses' name indicated so by adding their own initials underneath the penned signature. Today, when done digitally, the secretary might indicate an authorized signature by signing off with his/her personal smiley.
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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06-15-2008, 07:50 AM
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Rivet Master
1948 16' Wee Wind
1953 21' Flying Cloud
Denver
, Colorado
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Perhaps a workman's initials
Quote:
Originally Posted by Smitten
I also noticed that many of the shelves in our trailer have the VIN number on them followed by the letters "ARL". Does anyone know if these are initials as well?
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I don't know for certain, but suspect they might be the initials of the workman who made the furniture for your trailer. The VIN, of course, identifies the pieces as built for your trailer. By 1961, Ray Leininger had sold his trailer furniture manufacturing business to Airstream, so I doubt those are his initials (even if he has an unused first name). The Fall 2005 issue of Airstream Life has an interview with Ray (and David Winnick) about furniture built for Ohio Airstreams from 1952 to 1978.
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Denver, Colorado - WBCCI Unit 24
Airstream Life "Old Aluminum"
Airstream Life "From the Archives"
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06-16-2008, 01:35 PM
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Rivet Master
Airstream Dealer
1955 22' Flying Cloud
2021 27' Globetrotter
Gulfport
, Mississippi
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 825
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utee94
3Streams (Andy and April) also have one among their "fleet."
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huummmmm.......greg176 also has a '61 Overlander. I guess we always remember the things that are important.
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06-16-2008, 01:49 PM
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Rivet Master
1963 26' Overlander
Austin
, Texas
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,640
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Overlander & Sea
huummmmm.......greg176 also has a '61 Overlander. I guess we always remember the things that are important.
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Yup, I consider '61 Overlanders to be VERY important. Perhaps you've read my short thread about the subject...
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