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Old 07-23-2012, 05:05 PM   #121
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Can I get a second opinion or two?

This is what the clearance lights looked like when we bought the Overlander. Could these be original? They look like '60s to me.

I'm debating about changing them to the teardrop shape, but they would be quite low, near the front and rear window.

Would you stick with these or change to teardrops?

Also, my understanding is that it should be all amber in the front and all red in the rear, right?

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My '64 Bambi II had lights that are similar to the ones on your trailer. I switched them out for teardrops because I like them! If you like them better, switch them out. If you want to keep it original, I'm not sure what kind are true to your trailer's year. And yes, you're supposed to have amber in the front & red in the back.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:10 PM   #122
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John,

I doubt those lights are original. I don't think our 1959 trailer's had marker lights on that location from the factory. How big are the holes from the lights on there now? Can you just fill them with rivets and start over with teardrop lights up higher?

Also, on the large center skin on the cealing, I was able to get mine out the door fairly easily by just letting it hang like an upside down taco. I think taking it out the front window would be more difficult.

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Norm,

We'll try the upside-down-taco on Wednesday morning. That sounds much easier than rolling up and passing out the window -- we can do it with 2 guys that way.

The lights have 1/2" holes for wires, so relocating them is a bit of work. It might be worth small patches, if I can make them blend in OK.

Things are going well on schedule lately, so we just signed up for the Region 1 Rally in August. We can check out more vintage Airstreams there for ideas. That look is just not sitting right.

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Old 07-23-2012, 07:12 PM   #123
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My '64 Bambi II had lights that are similar to the ones on your trailer. I switched them out for teardrops because I like them! If you like them better, switch them out. If you want to keep it original, I'm not sure what kind are true to your trailer's year. And yes, you're supposed to have amber in the front & red in the back.
Thanks, Becky. I like the teardrops better too. Wish the holes weren't so low.
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Old 07-23-2012, 07:21 PM   #124
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... It's the big one on the ceiling that has to be rolled up and passed through the front window. ..!
I rolled my ceiling and passed it out the front window by myself. Using some rope to tighten the coil, it was actually pretty easy.

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Old 07-23-2012, 07:50 PM   #125
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I rolled my ceiling and passed it out the front window by myself. Using some rope to tighten the coil, it was actually pretty easy.

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That's where I got the out-the-window idea.

... and OUCH! ... I remember that story about your ankle.

Funny how all the restoration threads blend together. I had forgotten what thread it was, but I clearly remember that story and picture.
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Old 07-23-2012, 08:48 PM   #126
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Can I get a second opinion or two?

This is what the clearance lights looked like when we bought the Overlander. Could these be original? They look like '60s to me.

I'm debating about changing them to the teardrop shape, but they would be quite low, near the front and rear window.

Would you stick with these or change to teardrops?

Also, my understanding is that it should be all amber in the front and all red in the rear, right?

Thanks,

John
Hi John
Those clearance lights look more like 66' and up to me and the placement is wrong. I will include a photo of my 62 with newer teardrop replacements that are in the correct placement with the trailer when new.

Thanks for signing up to attend Region One. Looking forward to meeting you and seeing the project.
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1. What is the purpose of a clearance light?
2. I rolled mine and went out the back window. I put a crease in it. Be careful.

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Old 07-24-2012, 07:33 PM   #128
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1. Not sure why clearance lights are needed
2. My biggest fear is a big crease in the big panel. It's coming out tomorrow.
3. If I finish this restoration and come to TX from CT, can I stop in to say hi?

Utee94 will vouch for Mary and I -- we're not strange, and we do love Texas!
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Old 07-24-2012, 07:39 PM   #129
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Those clearance lights look more like 66' and up to me and the placement is wrong. I will include a photo of my 62 with newer teardrop replacements that are in the correct placement with the trailer when new.

Thanks for signing up to attend Region One. Looking forward to meeting you and seeing the project.
That's the look I pictured, thanks.

"seeing the project" ?... we're showing up with -- literally -- the bare minimum. If someone is interested in the guts of a '50's Airstream, we'll provide that. I intend to have brakes working and the frame properly supported. That's it.

Hmmm..... I wonder if anyone is looking for polishing lessons.
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Old 07-25-2012, 03:41 AM   #130
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That's the look I pictured, thanks.

"seeing the project" ?... we're showing up with -- literally -- the bare minimum. If someone is interested in the guts of a '50's Airstream, we'll provide that. I intend to have brakes working and the frame properly supported. That's it.

Hmmm..... I wonder if anyone is looking for polishing lessons.


I am always looking for some good lessons just about almost everything.

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Old 07-25-2012, 10:51 AM   #131
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1. What is the purpose of a clearance light?
2. I rolled mine and went out the back window. I put a crease in it. Be careful.

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Not so sure what the top lights are for other than looking pretty at night....I know I rely on the side lights alot to check where to trailer is at night, if the lights are on and for that matter if the trailer is still there.
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Old 07-25-2012, 11:12 AM   #132
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That's the look I pictured, thanks.

"seeing the project" ?... we're showing up with -- literally -- the bare minimum. If someone is interested in the guts of a '50's Airstream, we'll provide that. I intend to have brakes working and the frame properly supported. That's it.

Hmmm..... I wonder if anyone is looking for polishing lessons.
Oh, I'm interested...and I bet there will be many more people at the rally that would also.

On the subject of the upper clearance lights and since your 59' did not have them there originally, you might consider leaving it that way. I would remove the other later added lights also.

I really like the tear drops on our 62', but as with all things they are another place for possible leaks and another added maintenance item. Ours had the original steel backed tear props.

The 57' we just pick up has the lower deco Airstream sign below the window like your 59' and no upper clearance lights. It is a nice clean look.

I always look at the clearance lights and some look great while others are wrong...placement, style, added later by someone or maybe even just because it was a California built model. (what were they smoking out there?)
But they add some bling too....something to think about.

Polishing lessons? Are you a giver or a taker?

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Old 07-26-2012, 02:19 PM   #133
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On the subject of the upper clearance lights and since your 59' did not have them there originally, you might consider leaving it that way. I would remove the other later added lights also.

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Polishing lessons? Are you a giver or a taker?

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Now that all the interior panels are out, it's obvious which lights are original. The lights over the front and rear windows were not. The teardrops on each side were. I'm going to remove all lights that weren't original.

I'm always happy to give polishing lessons! I encourage everyone to try it for several hours before they graduate.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:37 PM   #134
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Now that all the interior panels are out, it's obvious which lights are original. The lights over the front and rear windows were not. The teardrops on each side were. I'm going to remove all lights that weren't original.

I'm always happy to give polishing lessons! I encourage everyone to try it for several hours before they graduate.
The side marker lights can also be called clearance lights as their real purpose is to let you know where the sides of the trailer are located when backing the trailer into tight spaces after dark or pulling the trailer thru areas in low light conditions! As for the upper clearance lights..... they let you know when you didn't clear a low overhang or bridge when they go out as the top 1 to 2 feet of the trailer disappears! FYI!! LOL! Ed
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Old 07-30-2012, 06:21 PM   #135
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Clean!

Finally, everything is out.
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Old 08-01-2012, 10:20 AM   #136
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That has to be a great feeling! Let the fun begin!
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Old 08-04-2012, 05:20 AM   #137
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That has to be a great feeling! Let the fun begin!
The fun is going to begin by taking her for 2 weeks of camping!

We'll just make it to the Region 1 Rally in New Hampshire -- never been to a WBCCI rally. After that, we have a great spot right on the river in Vermont for 10 days. Should be good inspiration.

Popped all the hubs, lubed, repacked bearings and tested brakes. All 4 are now rewired for the trip. Hired a terrific young man from the neighborhood who's trying to finish the first polishing cut. Painted the floor with multiple coats of old house paint to keep any dust down. We'll cover it with lots of rugs. I hope to have the time to put in a temp kitchen counter so it's a slight step above the usual aluminum tent.

Colin suggested cutting small plywood patches in key areas, if necessary. Here's a picture of one of the 4 key support points where the ribs come down from the end caps. It had rotted completely and the rib could just float. The patch (to the side of the hole that it will be placed in) is now through-bolted and it looks much more solid. I feel better about bouncing it around without the inner skins.
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Old 08-05-2012, 06:03 AM   #138
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After towing the Overlander shell you may not want to add any more weight..it will be light as a feather. I towed the mostly empty 26' Henry Ford up to Plattsburg this spring and it was a breeze.

If you have any floor plans in mind or on paper please bring them along to the rally. The owner of the HF will be there and I am helping him with some interior ideas as Colin will be adding tanks and repairing parts of the new sub floor.

We are beginning to work on the Custom and will be looking forward to seeing your plans.

See you there.

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Old 08-06-2012, 06:43 AM   #139
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If you have any floor plans in mind or on paper please bring them along to the rally.
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We are beginning to work on the Custom and will be looking forward to seeing your plans.
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We'll have drawings that have very little change to the original.
- I'm hoping to extend the galley forward 18" and put an A/C underneath
- Steal Marcus' idea for super bed
- Still debating forward gaucho vs dinette

We used the dinette in the Caravel quite a bit and are leaning towards that. I like what Norm did on Captain Wilson's Overlander. See post 237 and later.
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Bummer.

Spent several days getting ready for what I hoped would be 10 days of Rallying and camping.

A little over half way to the rally, the transmission blew! The Overlander spent over a week in a parking lot in the middle of New Hampshire. After waiting for the repair, work and a family party, we managed to have just 3 days of camping.

At least the weather was perfect.
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