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Old 12-06-2012, 08:26 PM   #201
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Many of us have dealt with rear floor rot. Airstream didn't properly flash the plywood floor in the rear of the trailer on a number of model years.

I remember dealing with this on the Caravel and wish I had this simple picture of a simple solution at the time.

Here's how Colin deals with it.
That is one of the things I wish I'd known when we were restoring our trailer.

On another note, I have that exact same patch where our original 110v connection was located.

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Old 12-06-2012, 08:39 PM   #202
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... We also went with a higher down angle on the axle to allow for more ground clearance for future boon docking. ...
We made the same choice when replacing the axles on our '77...no regrets although it does, IMHO, change the looks of the trailer...

KUDO's to Colin for allowing/providing/tolerating/IDunno the photos ... that is a nice clean shop and speaks volumes to me...
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:08 PM   #203
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That is one of the things I wish I'd known when we were restoring our trailer.

On another note, I have that exact same patch where our original 110v connection was located.

Norm
Norm,

To keep the budget in line, I asked Colin to hold off on small jobs that I can finish. They made all the parts for me to seal and assemble. I'll take more pics.

I thought about reusing that hole for the new cord, but it's way too close to something else.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:11 PM   #204
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It's home. Long trip in miserable weather, but it's here -- safe and sound.

The journey started with Colin getting it out the just-large-enough bay door.
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:12 PM   #205
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I hadn't even left the driveway when Colin, Reed and Bob started to move the next one. Anyone recognize this trailer?
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:19 PM   #206
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Yippee!! That would be my Moonraker!
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Old 12-07-2012, 08:48 PM   #207
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Wow,that awesome to get your baby back home.

That has to be a great feeling getting an all new frame under that beautiful shell even if you didn't plan on it. Just curious but what does something like that cost.i realize that's a personal question and if you don't want to answer I understand.
I like the idea of coating the inside with paint as well and the redesigned front end of the frame.
Congrats once again.
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Old 12-08-2012, 05:26 AM   #208
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Mike,

I'm a little too old-fashioned to talk finances on the World Wide Web. Their work isn't cheap, but it is first class.

I will say this -- I started talking to Colin before buying the trailer. He reviewed pics and gave me good advice from the start. If you are going to work with a restorer, I'd definitely recommend engaging with them early and often.

The amount of rot and the need to build a new frame did hurt the budget, but I'll still make my goal of having a better-than-new trailer for a fraction of the price. That does, of course, require me to donate a LOT of sweat equity to the project at zero cost.

My bride said that I needed a project. Little did she know...

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Old 12-09-2012, 06:54 AM   #209
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We made the same choice when replacing the axles on our '77...no regrets although it does, IMHO, change the looks of the trailer...

KUDO's to Colin for allowing/providing/tolerating/IDunno the photos ... that is a nice clean shop and speaks volumes to me...
Vernon,

You're right that it changes the look. When I first saw the trailer and steps, I was afraid that we raised it too high, especially when the new Michelins went on and raised it another couple of inches. I've quickly become used to it after seeing the practicality. Reportedly, it will lower by 2-3 inches after it is filled with stuff -- especially water.

One of the reasons for raising it is to avoid having to move 12 2x4's and 8 sheets of 3/4" plywood to make a ramp to get it into its parking spot in the yard. Not long after the second pic was taken, we saw that the spare tire cleared by only 1". No more plywood!

On the pictures... I asked Colin multiple times if he was comfortable with me posting so many pictures. Obviously, he is.

If I didn't have such a tight timetable right now, I'd go back and reread your entire thread. It's a great one.

John
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Old 12-09-2012, 06:56 AM   #210
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The first 20 minutes or so of Episode 174 of TheVap are an update on this trailer.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:37 AM   #211
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I listened to the VAP & knew, from your thread, that they were talking about your trailer. That was pretty neat! It looks great!
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:32 AM   #212
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I measured the floor height before John left & it was 23" with 225/75-15 tires, so the bellypan was 19" off the ground. It now has 235's on it so it should be slightly taller now. Keep in mind though that the trailer is completely empty. The only protrusions that decrease the ground clearance is the spare tire rack up front which hangs down about 4", the double step about 5", the rear receiver about 2 1/2" & the axle tubes themselves, about 2 5/8". The black/grey tank valve bayonet cap will be the only drain plumbing exposed to flying debris/gas station curbs, so this trailer certainly has good boondocking capability, & is much better than what was common on the Capetown to Cairo Caravan. Being a 59, it originally had leaf spring axles that had only 7 1/2" clearance, & although the body of the trailer was raised for the famed Caravan, the axles remained at 7 1/2" clearance. These axles are "high profile" AXIS torsion type with 32 degree down angles.
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:02 PM   #213
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Nice job! I too like my Argosy (26') with the taller axles... yes, it does change the look of the trailer, but I really like not dragging the thing's behind leaving gas stations. I too was worried about the "higher" CG, but the reality of it is that it sure seems to tow smoother and more stable. Probably a lot to do with functioning rubber again!

I like your Merc TV! Gas or diesel? What kind of mileage do you get towing or around town?
Thanks for sharing your story! You and Colin both are doing great work!
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Old 12-09-2012, 04:03 PM   #214
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Just listened to the Vap, very cool to hear Colin talking about your trailer.
Good luck on your restoration.
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Old 12-09-2012, 05:36 PM   #215
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I like your Merc TV! Gas or diesel? What kind of mileage do you get towing or around town?
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Thanks Marc.

The Merc is a diesel. Got 17.2 mpg driving slowly from Colin's -- over 300 miles. We get high 20's on the highway to Boston, occasionally breaking 30. It's an '07, the last year before BlueTec. We were quite happy with it until the transmission blew last summer at just over 100K. Out of warranty and not a cheap repair.

I guess my mileage is going to improve. I'm going to baby that new transmission!
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:33 PM   #216
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Progress update:

Sanded the floor to get the construction marks off. Coated it with CPES as an undercoat for any floor covering and to lower the chances for potential rot for the 3rd or 4th generation decedents who inherit the trailer. P-)

Lower half has at least one layer of Prodex. All the wiring is roughed in. I had to admit that my original plan was a little over-engineered. Nine home runs back and forth by the galley were enough!

If all goes well, the inner skins start going in tomorrow.
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The black/grey tank valve bayonet cap will be the only drain plumbing exposed to flying debris/gas station curbs, so this trailer certainly has good boondocking capability,
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John - thanks so much (and to Colin) for posting all these pictures. My VTS tanks arrived last night..I have a different drain configuration planned..we'll see if it works.

Per the above quote, you wouldn't happen to have pictures of said exposed drain plumbing...or has it been installed yet?

Congratulations on the progress!

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Old 12-14-2012, 10:24 PM   #218
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John - thanks so much (and to Colin) for posting all these pictures. My VTS tanks arrived last night..I have a different drain configuration planned..we'll see if it works.

Per the above quote, you wouldn't happen to have pictures of said exposed drain plumbing...or has it been installed yet?

Congratulations on the progress!

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Kathy,

You're welcome. Keep an eye on Shelly's thread too. It's a '63 Overlander and it looks like she's posting most pics that Colin sends her -- should be some really good stuff there.

CHTR gave me the assembled drains and Reed provided a drawing on how to assemble things. I'm just waiting for the snow to fall before I get below the trailer to assemble things. Just too warm right now. I will document it well for you.

Have you tried out that Hepvo valve yet? I'm about to place my order.

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Old 12-14-2012, 10:35 PM   #219
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Temperatures are about to drop quickly after this weekend, so we pressed really hard to get the wiring done and the inner panels in place.

We finished applying the automotive epoxy primer to all the interior skins. Looks like a battleship grey interior.

Captain Wilson (nmbosa's original owner) and Chief Torpedoman Fischer (our original owner) would feel right at home with this color. Sorry gentlemen, but it's going to be much lighter within hours. We hope to get a beige base color on tomorrow and -- if all goes well -- shoot Zolatone on Sunday.
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Old 12-17-2012, 08:03 PM   #220
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Weather didn't cooperate over the weekend, so we didn't shoot the Zolatone until tonight. With two heaters, we were able to preheat the trailer to 80 degrees before spraying.

I have a good friend who loaned me his fresh air respirator and gave me lessons on good spraying technique. He was here tonight as I did the first coat and couldn't resist spraying some himself. It was actually fun.

I have to admit that I was nervous spraying the Zolatone ourselves, but it turned out to be very forgiving. It looks really good. We did have a couple of spots with too much spray, but hopefully those spots will be behind cabinets. Rookie mistakes.

The vast majority looks nice and even. It took all of an hour or so to spray.

The fresh air respirator was key to being able to spray in 30-ish weather. We didn't have to flow a lot of air through the trailer, just to the person inside. This allowed it to stay much warmer, allowing the paint to cure. We do have a small amount of fresh air flowing, but not much. We're expecting warmer weather for the next two days so that we can bake all the fumes out.

Here is the mix of highlight colors -- red, blue and desert camo -- before being added to a gallon of Camille White. It looked very strange, but works.

I took one finished pic in the dark with the iPhone. Doesn't show the color well, but does show that things were pretty well distributed.

Big relief having this done! Rear bath time tomorrow.
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