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Scott J-24 12-22-2012 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by RUMSHIP (Post 1240435)
Maybe I'll stop by and say hi to spread some x-mas cheer. :)

Sounds great! Hope to meet you, stop by for a beer, wine, or cocktail! We will be the ones in the silver pickle by the bay. :wally:

Happy Holidays,

dwightdi 12-22-2012 08:30 PM

Looks like they already have 14 motions to take up. Some are pretty weighty, but no Motor home proposal. The changing of the fiscal year to be the calendar year would end up with two presidents sharing the responsible for a each year. Allowing the MAL to individually register their votes at Jackson Center would give them a voice without having to redo the Constitution. Abandoning the winter IBT would save $30,000. Allowing for Internet or electronic IBT meetings, with only a 10 day notice, will allow the IBT to become more responsive, but might hide some of the details of what goes on from the common members. We will have to see what other motions are brought up and how many get passed.

eubank 12-22-2012 09:08 PM

THe problem with the MAL idea is that many proposals are amended before a vote is taken. So if a proposal is amended, how does one count the MAL vote?

Buttercup 12-22-2012 10:33 PM

We now have the Mid-Winter Schedule published on As soon as we get any audio from the meetings we will post those as well.

dwightdi 12-23-2012 05:46 AM

The MAL voting proposal is not a perfect solution to the MAL issue. The proposal could also offer the possibility of a MAL attending the delegates' meeting being allowed to vote directly at the meeting, but that could take a lot of time on a roll call vote. I think the motion, as now put forward, is a step in the right direction. It is better that completely eliminating the delegates' meeting and open meeting discussion, as proposed in the rewritten constitution that was proposed, and defeated, last year. That revised constitution would have eliminated any possibility of any amendments from the general membership. It would have locked everyone into a simple (internet or otherwise)yes or no vote on any proposes put forward by the IBT. I feel that, If the Revised Constitution would have passed, the IBT would have uncontested control of the roost. I think, they could have proposed and passed amendments eliminating Wally's name from the organization and brought Thor motor homes in without organized opposition. Similar to what the IBT has proposed in the past, but soundly defeated by the membership, under the current Delegate meeting structure.

Blue Pearl 12-23-2012 11:37 PM

Sorry I haven't commented from my post, thanks for the information. We have been in & out of Internet service (at&t) since we left Seaside. We headed down 101 in the rain, did I say RAIN all the way to Ukiah. Looking for Sun:). Chula vista sounds like a great place, I'll check for availability.

Scott J-24 12-24-2012 12:18 AM

We are here at Chula Vista RV and the weather has been very nice. Expecting rain sometime tonight and Monday, then sunny and nice again. Looks like there are still a bunch of spots available. Stop by and say hi, we are in site 53 with a bay view, just look for the flag pole and a couple of pink flamingos hiding under the bushes.

66Overlander 01-02-2013 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by damonbeals (Post 1240236)
What error where you getting? I believe it was due to the host provider issues, as I just used the link and was able to download the pdf of the agenda.

If you use the menu on the website, go to Club Information, IBT and click on 'IBT' part of the menu, don't click on the meeting archives.


Hi Damon,
Just found this thread. When I try to download the IBT Agenda on this page:, I get the following error message: "Unauthorized access to downloads!"

dwightdi 01-03-2013 05:35 AM

It downloads for me without a problem.

damonbeals 01-03-2013 11:56 AM

Sorry Joe, I don't know why you would get that error message. But I will email you a copy of the agenda. But please try the link again and let me know.


66Overlander 01-03-2013 07:29 PM

Damon, Thanks for emailing the IBT Agenda .pdf file to me. That worked!

And just in case it helps figure out what is going on on the web site, I got the "Unauthorized access to downlads!" error message using Internet Explorer 7.0 on an old Windows XP computer.

Today I tried to download the file using FireFox 17.0.1 on the same computer and instead was taken to a "Login (Administrators Only at this time)" page. Weird.

Buttercup 01-04-2013 12:51 AM

For what its worth, I just tried it from my house and it opened fine. And I didn't upload that myself. I'll check the error logs but there are no permissions set for those downloads so they should just download and open for everybody.

Looking at the download itself, it has been downloaded over 100 times so far. If anybody else has a problem, let us know when it happened so we can check error logs for any problems.

eubank 01-04-2013 06:17 AM

No problems accessing the download from here now, either. Win7, IE9.

monah 01-10-2013 02:45 PM

Hi Damon....could you please check your Unit President distro list? I haven't received an with the agenda but will download from your link.
Mona Heat
President, Oregon Unit

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