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rosser7 08-18-2012 03:50 PM

Tow vehicle advice sought
 
I'm looking at buying a 2011 Ford F250 Lariat King Ranch 4X4 crew cab diesel. I know this is more than I need but it sure is comfortable. Any thoughts on pros and cons? I need to convince my wife. We also looked at a 2012 F150 crew cab with eco boost engine. Any thoughts on that one. I'll be pulling a 27' International. We plan on doing some long haul trips cross country etc.
Thanks

Big C 08-18-2012 04:09 PM

We own a landscape business and started driving diesels back in 2001. I would drive nothing else for our company trailers or our 31' Sovereign.

herrick51 08-18-2012 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rosser7 (Post 1190339)
I'm looking at buying a 2011 Ford F250 Lariat King Ranch 4X4 crew cab diesel. I know this is more than I need but it sure is comfortable. Any thoughts on pros and cons? I need to convince my wife. We also looked at a 2012 F150 crew cab with eco boost engine. Any thoughts on that one. I'll be pulling a 27' International. We plan on doing some long haul trips cross country etc.
Thanks

Hello,
With the f250 you will have more versatilty and you will need to choose your hitch carefully BECAUSE of harsher springing. The transmission on the f250 is better than the f150 and the brakes are bigger inmo. However,I now tow with 2010 f150 4x4 with K@N cold air intake system with Gibson cat back system and do not feel underpowered. Obviously ,does not have the torque of a diesel. Also added mich.E rated with super springs. Love this comb. with 5.4 eng.GVWR OF 7700 PDS.mAX TOW PKG. I'm towing a 2012 FC 25fb and averaged 11 to 11.5 miles per gal. thru NM,COL,UT.WY.ID.and OR. The mileage might not be as good you want with the diesel.Also,switched to a Andersen hitch from the equalizer and the ride improved immensely. Anyway,choosing the f2560 is probably the safest choice. Again,I don't travel with full tanks and always try to balance the load and stay within eng.paramenters. Be sure if you go with with the f150 you get the max tow pkg.and the max payload if you can find one.Good luck.

barrettjl 08-18-2012 05:37 PM

We just got back from a 5600 mile trip West (Idaho, Glacier NP, Black Hills, Badlands). I coudn't be happer with our 2012 F150 FX2 EcoBoost (with the Max Tow package) and how it pulled our Flying Cloud 25FB.

One thing with the F150 though, is you will need to be careful with your Gross Rear Axle rating; after factoring in the trailer tongue weight, passengers, and such, you may not have much left over for cargo in the bed. You won't have that conern with a F250.

dkottum 08-18-2012 08:02 PM

If you don't need a F250 except for your Airstream, the F150 Ecoboost seems the sensible choice. The weight distribution hitch should mitigate some of the tongue and cargo weight concerns by distributing it among both truck axles as well as the trailer axles.

doug k

TouringDan 08-18-2012 08:18 PM

Unless you get the max payload package, you will be hugging the gross rear axle rating on any 1/2 ton with a loaded truck and a loaded 25ft Airstream. Getting the max payload package will give you more flexibility while keeping the initial cost and operating cost to a minimum. I would opt for the f150. The big diesel is overkill.

Dan

Friday 08-18-2012 08:39 PM

Both will work... my buddy tows a big SOB with a new Ecoboost - works great. Diesels are more of a proven solution though. Do you need the extra hassle of 4x4? Not very often useful for towing unless you are getting into some grassy or gravelly grades...

For easy, lazy towing, a diesel dually would be my pick...

Big C 08-18-2012 10:57 PM

Diesels are produced to tow. If you buy gas, then you would have to include a tow package. This will likely shorten the life of your tranny and the motor and the resale value.
Loaded properly, your diesel tv will out perform any gas tv. Depending on how you drive, even with the higher cost of diesel fuel, if you drive at a constant 2000-2100 rpm your cost of fuel will be comparable to gas since diesels get better mileage loaded vs gas (the dirty little secret).
Biased toward my F350 diesel, yes, but it will tow anything I put behind it since the tow package is built in. Pick your hitch beyond what you will tow and transfer this to your coach to the specs and you will easily out perform any gas tv on any incline or decline or on a flat surface.
Depending on where you are located, the resale value of diesel vs gas is much higher no matter the mileage.
The 4x4 option in a diesel goes a lot further than a 4x in gas. If you ever need to pull something out, or your self and do it right the diesel has more power transfer to all four in a lower gear and will get you out if you do not over torque, spin your wheels... Most come with options of gear ratio.

Globie64 08-19-2012 12:39 AM

What is the weight of your trailer? Is the tow vehicle going to be a daily driver too? I'm near you rosser, Sea Ranch, and gas is expensive in our area. I'd look at what you need and shop for what you're comfortable with.

zeke07 08-19-2012 06:58 AM

We tow with a 2011 F250 Lariat Diesel. Couldn't be happier. Very comfortable quiet and tows like a dream. The only drawback we found was a rather small fuel tank. 25 gals. Replaced that with a Transfer Flow 50 gal tank. Problem solved. We also replaced the Equalizer Hitch with an Anderson. :) Have fun in your search!

rosser7 08-19-2012 09:12 AM

rear axel options?
 
Thanks for your input. Any suggestions on the following rear axel options, on a 2011 F250 diesel crew cab 4x4? The one that comes with the truck I'm looking at is the 3.55

3.31 Axle Ratio Electronic Locking Rear Differential
3.55 Axle Ratio Electronic Locking Rear Differential
3.73 Axle Ratio Electronic Locking Rear Differential
4.30 Axle Ratio Electronic Locking Rear Differential

zeke07 08-19-2012 11:19 AM

I'm running the 3.55 and have pulled upwards of 15K with no difficulties at all. It pulls our Classic in 6th without any problem. Even here in the Rockies it will pull at the speed limit on most any climb.

Gene 08-19-2012 12:39 PM

A diesel makes sense to me if I wanted to keep it for 300,000 miles. But I'd have to pay more for it and for maintenance than gas, so it takes a long time to equal out for diesel.

Diesel fuel usually costs more than gas fuel and the difference in fuel mileage also comes close to equalling out.

We tow a 25' without any problems with a 5.7 L gas engine and the 27' doesn't weigh much more. At 75,000 miles engine and transmission perform just like new. Rear gear ratio is 4.30. We have around 1,500 lbs. payload. This is a Tundra, but other full size pickups have big gas engines too. Another interesting option is the 4.7 L V8 Tundra with a supercharger—better mileage, sort of like the EcoBoost. Toyota doesn't promote this option, but it may be worth looking into.

The Ford EcoBoost thread: http://www.airforums.com/forums/f463...ost-74084.html

Gene

Bill M. 08-19-2012 01:40 PM

In my opinion, the Ford 250 will do a fine job of pulling that trailer.


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