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m.hony 08-04-2014 05:10 AM

Now I finally see what it looks like...

xrvr 08-04-2014 06:17 AM

Since this is only cosmetic, maybe a better deal can be had! Might be worth a bunch off the price. Jim

interstateflyer 08-06-2014 03:23 PM

We took delivery of a 2014 23D last week. I brought it home and immediately treated all of the cast and extruded exterior parts with Corrosion X.

There were even some filiform corrosion squiggles "pre-packaged" with the trailer, surprisingly on the sealed side panels. Those were treated with Corrosion X and sealed with an "Airstream" clear pen.

I then waxed everything with 2 applications of GLARE Professional Polish.

Corrosion X, Airstream Clear Acrylic Pens and GLARE are all available on Airstream.com.

Airstream Tech Support recommends these products to help avoid corrosion.

I only wish that I was made aware of this preventative regime for my last trailer. There should be a description of this process as a "before you plug it in" step.

Howard L. 08-11-2014 06:13 PM

Smart man Interstate!


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407EBM 08-15-2014 09:48 PM

So if this is a known problem, then why would anyone buy an airstream ? I can't imagine my new car having a similar significant issues. So sad. I don't understand?!

m.hony 08-15-2014 09:53 PM

And I have still never seen this corrosion...

AWCHIEF 08-15-2014 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 407EBM (Post 1496735)
So if this is a known problem, then why would anyone buy an airstream ? I can't imagine my new car having a similar significant issues. So sad. I don't understand?!

Aluminitus - there is no known cure. Yes, very sad, but true.

Wayward 08-15-2014 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 407EBM (Post 1496735)
So if this is a known problem, then why would anyone buy an airstream !

I bought an Airstream because it is aluminum.

It reflects the colors of the world around it.

It might find a teeny spot or two of the filaform because it is aluminum.

Can't have one without the other.

But its a whole lot shiney'er than it is anything else.

interstateflyer 08-15-2014 10:14 PM

34% of the US population lives within 10 miles of a body of salt water. Chances are that this demographic has more to spend on RVs than much of the other 66%. Apparently this fact is lost on Airstream/Thor.

From my experience, filiform corrosion definitely affects post 1984 Airstreams within that 10 mile zone. I just purchased a 2014 model from a dealer 40 miles from the Pacific Ocean. The trailer had been in their possession for 4 months. I had to treat side panels and cast parts for filiform.

I will do what I can to prevent filiform on my new trailer. I've already run the gambit of emotions tied to my 2013 International corroding.

Rumor has it that some people have reached legal settlements with Airstream/Thor. That's cool if you want to put your time and energy into pursuing that course of action.

Bottom line is do what you can, enjoy your trailer and have pleasant journeys.

PharmGeek 08-16-2014 07:49 AM

Mine was special ordered and picked up in Gulfport ms - pretty close to ocean I think

Luckily it did not set on lot but for like 1 week before I picked up - brought home - washed - waxed - applied corrosion X to all seams - no indications of corrosion except a small amount on the door handle

I live in Birmingham

Bought 1 year ago a 2014

I keep watching

We knew of this concern but believed if we special ordered - did not live near beach and we regularly applied the anti corrosives we could worst case limit the stuff as documented in this thread

Time will tell

So far so good and not regretting the purchase at all

Hitting hungry mothers state park near my hometown next weekend

pagoff 08-16-2014 08:32 AM

It comes with the territory
 
I like my 19 foot 2006 Safari and make do with the several areas of corrosion which were noted early-on. We liked the style of the rig and assumed by paying about twice the amount of other 19 foot trailers that we were getting a quality product. We were wrong. In reality our Safari was poorly put together and when you think about it they change the interiors almost yearly with the main focus being looks rather than durability. So that things literally do fall apart (trip to Alaska was a real adventure) with heavy use--my experience with the 2006 Safari).


I view the Airstream as the result of the best in 1930's technology (the riveted aluminum shell) combined with middle of the road components (Safari line) put together in a haphazard fashion with little concern about durability. In Seattle, up till recently (I can't comment on the new dealer) the dealer was not focused on Airstream and did minimal preparation on delivery. So between a factory lacking quality control and a mediocre dealer support there was lots to be done the first few months of ownership. And yes my airstream was delivered with water levels in the running lights among other things.


Whether it's worth the Airstream premium in cost is a personal decision. I do like the look as noted by others but by buying one of these you also must accept the poor construction quality which I'm told is endemic in the RV industry and the tendency to corrosion (which the manufacturer essentially ignores). It's too bad. :sad:

xrvr 08-16-2014 09:41 AM

Opinions vary! Jim

dkottum 08-16-2014 10:07 AM

My career was Navy aircraft maintenance. Airplanes constructed primarily of riveted aluminum and costing millions of dollars, each. Premium purchase price has nothing to do with it. Corrosion control was an ongoing program to keep them in good shape, and we did.

You cannot expect to expose cut, drilled and riveted aluminum panels and components to corrosive environments and not get corrosion. The aircraft builders never figured it out, nor the Navy who has been flying them for about 100 years, and I don't expect Airstream to either.

But the way to prevent much of it and minimize its effects is in this thread. Inspect and treat with corrosion preventive products regularly, and repair as needed. It's not that tough to do.

Tomzstream 08-16-2014 10:24 AM

Its been noted before in other threads how thor concentrates on production numbers and not quality. The simple fact that they do not bother to vacuum out scraps and rivet holes during construction speaks to this focus on speed. I can attest, having just driven my trailer 3200 miles across the country, that all sorts of debris vibrated out from under the installed cabinets. The floor was spic and span when I left Florida and filthy when I got to California, including the appearance of a 6 by 18 inch aluminum plate that I searched long and hard to see if it had detached from something important... I concluded it had not, having no physical signs of attachment. It was simply scrap.

My point is that a simple preventive maintenance application of sealer immediately during construction could have eliminated this corrosion headache for many owners, and while they have gone back to using the beltline trim on the Flying Clouds to hide the problem, I'll bet dollars to donuts they still haven't sealed that seam and sooner or later the filiform will creep out from under that trim. Those with rotten floors, due to the same hurried construction techniques, can relate to this. There is no excuse for this shoddy construction technique. Its high time for a class action suit.

dkottum 08-16-2014 10:34 AM

"Its high time for a class action suit."

The reality is it ain't gonna happen. Better to spend your time taking care of and enjoying what you have.

But if it does, could you throw in the rusty cars and trucks we've had over the years.

Tomzstream 08-16-2014 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkottum (Post 1496875)
"Its high time for a class action suit."

The reality is it ain't gonna happen. Better to spend your time taking care of and enjoying what you have.

But if it does, could you throw in the rusty cars and trucks we've had over the years.

I have a feeling you'll be first in line when we do have a successful go at it. Your trailer is still somewhat new, but give it a few years... We'll be watching to see if the filiform creep prompts a post from you some 3 or 4 years from now, and while you may have the beltline trim, please tell me how you will "take care" of that inaccessible seam. Read what others have had to do to FIX their rotten floor issues. its not "routine maintenance" by any means.

dkottum 08-16-2014 11:54 AM

Okay, here's my deal. Bought a 2007 Airstream new but two years on the dealers lot next to a busy road with winter road salt. Had filiform corrosion around a few rivets and on belt line.

Treated shell and underbody steel with corrosion products and it never progressed beyond that in two years, when we bought a new 2012 Airstream fresh from factory and delivered on summer roads.

Three years now, inspect and treat regularly with corrosion preventive products on shell and underbody steel. We have 20 months total on the road in the is Airstream so it gets used and nicked (which I touch up). No trace of corrosion or rust anywhere.

You can sue the company or maintain your Airstream, but it evident to me which will be most successful. Or sue and maintain, but then you will have little basis for a settlement.

m.hony 08-16-2014 11:55 AM

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How 'bout the standard white range vent cover painted silver?
The paint is peeling in just under 2 years of ownership.
Attachment 219135
It costs 2, 3, or 4 times what an sob costs, but is only marginally better.
Reality bites...

dkottum 08-16-2014 11:57 AM

Repaint it.

m.hony 08-16-2014 12:18 PM

Why can't they source s silver/gray one or make one from stainless steel or aluminum?
Why should the owner of a hundred thousand dollar trailer have to paint a cheesy plastic piece of crap?


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