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niftypkg 02-21-2007 08:44 AM

Just offered...
 
:cool: Placed my 1971 27' Overlander on the market. Received 2 inquiers while on the road and a looker while in storage. Like to keep it but needs exterior work: stairs, cosmetics, etc. Interior updated but mostly org. Price listed at $6700. I can't fix it on my property so I must store it. Want another one in better shape. Is the price right or too cheap? :blush:

bobchevy89 02-21-2007 08:47 AM

pictures please
 
Please post pictures. what you say is bad may not be to someone else.
Bob

urbanfood 02-21-2007 08:51 AM

price sounds a little high based on your description. maybe some of the overlander owners will chime in.

check out this link;

Price vs. Condition - Airstream Values

good luck!

rickandsandi 02-21-2007 09:13 AM

Being on the search for an Overlander myself, I would say you can't be too high if people are looking! See what happens and what type of feedback you get from these folks. You can always lower your asking price but can never raise it. I'm still looking for that elusive 1958-60!

safari57 02-21-2007 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by rickandsandi
Being on the search for an Overlander myself, I would say you can't be too high if people are looking! See what happens and what type of feedback you get from these folks. You can always lower your asking price but can never raise it. I'm still looking for that elusive 1958-60!

Rick is right, you can't raise the price but you can always lower it if you have to. The important thing is to get it off the market quickly or people will think there's something wrong with it. I had a couple of cars I sold in the past where I realized too late I was selling too low but had already accepted an offer and honoring my word meant more than a few bucks in my pocket. But I still kick myself from time to time.

Barry

SteSpot 02-21-2007 11:52 AM

Your trailer for sale
 
Did you post it on the classified section on this forum? Pictures would help a great deal.....it is so hard to tell what the trailer might be worth without seeing it as well as knowing what things you have done and think still need to be done......pj

PizzaChop 02-21-2007 01:40 PM

As they used to say about Japanese pilots toward the end of WWII,

"The eager are not experienced, and the experienced are not eager."

Unless it has been meticulously taken care of, or has already had some quality restoration done to it, it may very well be a can of worms. (The size of the can depends on the unit. Being in a dry climate is certainly a point in its favor.)

It is in the "get burned" range IMHO, but the market should certainly fetch $6K for a decent shell with all systems intact.

I paid $4500 for a '72 Overlander back in '04 with all orig appliances (working) and furniture. The seller would not accept less, as he certainly would have sold it to someone else if I hadn't bought it. (It did have a scar on one of the rear corner panels which I eventually filled and painted.)

Anyway, I became well acquainted with rear floor rot, frame repair/resto, 2-part epoxy paint bathroom refinishing, and all that stuff within the next 3 months. None of this was particularly obvious when I purchased (though I should have looked closer). I gave it away two years later for $7K.

My point is, it may be a bit steep for the experienced Airstream owner (forum members), but the market determines the price, not us.

Get as much as you can!

kneal 02-21-2007 02:05 PM

Good point Ron... paid $6K for my Safari 23 and feel like I got Burned...Rear Floor Rot, Furnace, Axles, Tires, etc... But then again I couldn't find a Safari 23 for any less..so it was what in line with the market at the current time.

Boondocker 02-21-2007 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niftypkg
:cool: Placed my 1971 27' Overlander on the market. Received 2 inquiers while on the road and a looker while in storage. Like to keep it but needs exterior work: stairs, cosmetics, etc. Interior updated but mostly org. Price listed at $6700. I can't fix it on my property so I must store it. Want another one in better shape. Is the price right or too cheap? :blush:

It sounds to me like a high end reasonable price IF the axles are in very good condition and the appliances are as well, AND if there have been no major modifications to the interior. Also the floor ought to be in good shape for that asking price.

PizzaChop 02-21-2007 08:37 PM

Very good axles on a '71?:blink:

LI Pets 02-22-2007 05:20 AM

I don't think it's high $$$.

In fact I think that any unit that has been restored ot rebuilt is being sold too cheap.

If you take your 200-400 hours at $50 an hour plus your parts and org cost, that should be your starting point.

These units should sell for $15,000 and up.

I saw the new ones at 40-80K

Boondocker 02-22-2007 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI Pets
I don't think it's high $$$.

In fact I think that any unit that has been restored ot rebuilt is being sold too cheap.

Perhaps I misread the first post, but as I understand it this unit has not been restored. I read it to be a coach in basically orginal conditon + age with some interior mods. On that basis I said I thought it to be on the moderately high end. Having said that, if you can sell a unit for more, all the better.

If I did misread the conditon of the camper, then I would agree. When I get my Trade Wind restored, you would have to come with a BIG chunk of change to get me to part with it.

niftypkg 02-22-2007 10:11 AM

Great advice from all. Thanks. My take: If I sell it OK. If I don't I would continue to work on it as best I can. Problem: I HAVE to store it. Besides the cost $$ I can't do much with it. Axels: Just returned from a 3000 trip. I bought it about 5 years ago sight unseen but it was ready to travel and on the way to my destination. Out side repairs: Not at $65/$85 hour. Then who reallly can fix them correctly? Thanks again.

wahoonc 02-22-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LI Pets
I don't think it's high $$$.

In fact I think that any unit that has been restored ot rebuilt is being sold too cheap.

If you take your 200-400 hours at $50 an hour plus your parts and org cost, that should be your starting point.

These units should sell for $15,000 and up.

I saw the new ones at 40-80K

Should and will are a bit different.:angel:

I am still trying to figure out how in the world a new unit costs over $65k and I can purchase and completely refurbish a similar sized unit for around $20k there does not appear to be $45k worth of materials in there to me. I realize you have profit margins and all that as well as the dealer's profits etc. Eventually people may move to paying $15k-$30k for a well reconditioned/restored unit. They pretty well do on the smaller trailers. Biggest current problem I see are the number of scam artists out there taking advantage of the situation...

Aaron:cool:

niftypkg 02-22-2007 10:43 AM

I agree with you wahoon. I looked at new ones and I was not impressed. If a 1971 was restored in pristine condition it should be worth in that range. Restoration is not easy to do. Restorers that restore classic cars spend $$$$$$ doing it. Putting $50-100 for restoration is not uncommon. The market place determines what ours are worth.

w5wi 02-24-2007 05:34 PM

Airstream Prices
 
A few weeks ago I did a comprehensive search of vintage Airstream prices to justify why my insurance company should repair my '76 Caravanner and not total it. From my research I can state that the value of vintage Airstreams is increasing. I convenced my insurance company to repair my Airstream.

Current selling prices seem to me to be almost $2500 above last years prices. Good news for those wanting to sell :) , bad news for purchasers :mad: .

Good luck in your endeavours.

dale

Silver Threads 02-24-2007 05:40 PM

A 1972 Overlander sold on ebay a couple of weeks ago, all original for $10,300.00 so I guess it depends on what someone is willing to pay. There is one on there now from the same guy but it is a 73.

safari57 02-24-2007 06:18 PM

Thinking about it a bit more, last year my insurance company representative suggested I increase the replacement value of my FC by 4K which I did. The increase in my premiums was not much but it placed the replacement value in Canadian dollars in their eyes at between 12 and 16 thousand.

Barry

niftypkg 02-24-2007 09:06 PM

Could sell as many as I could get with no ad, just parked. Work performed about 10 years ago by other owner. Berber carpet. Both davenports reupholstered. All new OEM tambour doors. All other woodwork excellent.Floor OK. some dents and stairs needs work. Now I see it is priced too low. People have told me that they been looking for year or more. True can't find one myself. lOOKING FOR ONE IN THE 80'S ....Should keep until I find one.

safari57 02-24-2007 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by niftypkg
....Should keep until I find one.

IMHO that would be my stance. I'd hate to be without one and particularly at this time of year.

Barry


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